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Hispanics in Los Angeles and Abanians in Kosovo Demand Legalization of their Crimes
Banner of Liberty ^ | March 31, 2006 | Mary Mostert

Posted on 03/31/2006 9:06:15 AM PST by Bokababe

Townhall columnist Michelle Malkin noted in her column this week that “an estimated 500,000 to 2 million people, untold numbers of them here illegally, took to the streets of Los Angeles to protest strict immigration enforcement and to demand blanket amnesty for border violators, visa overstayers, deportation fugitives, immigration document fraud artists and other lawbreakers. Mexican flags and signs advocating ethnic separatism and supremacy filled the landscape. Demonstrators gleefully defaced posters of President Bush and urged supporters to ‘Stop the Nazis!’ Los Angeles talk show host Tammy Bruce reported that protesters burned American flags and waved placards of the North American continent with America crossed out.”

“One of the largest, boldest banners visible from aerial shots of the rally read: 'THIS IS STOLEN LAND' Others blared: 'CHICANO POWER' and 'BROWN IS BEAUTIFUL!'

Malkin quoted Sandra Molina, 16, a junior from L.A.'s Downtown Magnet High School, who complained: "This is unjust. This land used to belong to us and now they're trying to kick us out."

And, that sentiment was not limited to Los Angeles. In Wisconsin marchers held signs that said: "If you think I'm 'illegal' because I'm a Mexican, learn the true history because I'm in my HOMELAND."

Technically and logically Malkin is absolutely correct in pointing out that those who “came here illegally” or who stayed in the country after their visa documents expired or with fraudulent documents are criminals and lawbreakers. Yet as recently as 7 years ago this week the might and power of the United States Air Force was used to bomb a nation who tried, unsuccessfully, to defend one of its states against the same kind of massive influx of illegals that has occurred in California.

I've written about this for years. Just last year in an article titled, "Illegal aliens' use of terrorism to get a seat in the United Nations” I wrote, shortly after the London railway was bombed:

“For some reason for years the West has urged victims of terrorist attacks in Tel Aviv and Belgrade to placate and appease the terrorists in their midst. Governments in London, Washington and the United Nations have pressured both Jews and Serbs to surrender their lands to placate the terrorists who blow up their citizens, their police and, in Kosovo, 135 of their churches.

“In a province of about 2 million people, which is approximately the population of Utah, in the years between 1991-1998, there were 1126 terrorist attacks in Kosovo which killed or wounded 616 policemen, 16 refugees in refugee shelters and 494 citizens. To address this problem, President Clinton decided to bomb the Serbs for not being nice enough to the Albanian population in Kosovo and for insisting that the illegal Albanians go home.

“In Israel, in a population of about 4.5 million Jews, during the same period of time, the terrorists killed 390 people. The terror attacks increased between September 2000 and October 2003 with 884 people killed and 5932 injured in Israel bv terrorist bombers. In 2004, another 117 people were killed in Israel by Palestinian terrorists in 2004, and most of those attacks were not even mentioned by the media in the West.

“However, when 50 people were killed a week ago in of Britain’s 60 million people, it was front page news in every country in the world. Although Britain helped bomb the Serbs when they tried to send illegal aliens home to Albania, there were instant demands that illegals be rounded up and exported when the public thought illegal aliens had bombed London trains. That has quieted down now that it appears the bombers were British citizens.

“For years we have supported the notion that the Jews and the Serbs should negotiate with the terrorists, and give them land to stop the slaughter of citizens on the streets in Israel or Serbia. I’ve been writing about this for years. People forget that Yasser Arafat, who until his death was the leader of the Palestinians, was not born on the West Bank, but in Egypt. He began smuggling weapons into Jerusalem as a teenager to kill British soldiers. Many other so-called “Palestinians” are also citizens of other countries. Likewise, nearly a million Albanian Muslims, over 25% of its working age population, left Albania following the 1990 collapse of the Communist government and economy in Albania, and illegally entered Kosovo, Greece, Italy and other European nations. During the 1990s those Albanians used terrorism and crime to drive out 250,000 Serbs.

“After his election in 1989 Slobodan Milosevic, tried to reverse the incoming hordes of Albanians. Nearly one third of the Albanians fleeing their country’s economic collapse simply walked across the border into Kosovo province of the disintegrating Yugoslavia and stayed there. They are now demanding independent status and the property of Serbs, Jews, and others as their “right” to possess.”

“In late 1997, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), funded largely with illegal drug money from the Albanian mafia, (with weapons supplied by Osama bin Laden and Iran) began a series of attacks on Serbian police forces, government officials, and Serbian refugees in Kosovo. The Milosevic Government responded by sending the Yugoslav army into Kosovo to stop the attacks. Note that some Americans today are demanding that the US Army be sent to the Mexican border to stop illegal immigration into the USA.”

In trying to stop illegal aliens from seizing a portion of his nation, Slobodan Milosevic was arrested as a war criminal, spent the last 4 years defending himself in a trial composed of judges selected by those who bombed his nation, and died under strange circumstances as the trial was supposedly coming to an end.

Could the same thing happen to an American President? After all, it is true that California and Texas once actually had an Hispanic government, while Kosovo NEVER was controlled by an Albanian government, but was Serbian occupied for over 1000 years – and there were hundreds of historic Serbian Christian churches, monasteries and landmarks to prove it – until the Albanians began blowing them up.

Both the Albanians and the Hispanics believe they can seize land, create a country, get a seat at the United Nations and make you believe they are the victims. It seems to be working for the Albanians who expect to get Kosovo as their “independent” nation. Why shouldn’t it work for the Mexicans in Los Angeles County?


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To: FormerLib

But, I am told an "independent Kosovo" is going to happen within the next few months, unless we stop it.

It is amazing to me that the Internationals-- especially the Europeans -- can know that Kosovo has become a hub for al Qaeda (the Semtex used in the London and Madrid bombings came from there & they know it); it is a route for all the sex slavery and narcotics in Western Europe -- and still they are going to grant it "independence"!

This "independence" move is also going to sign the death warrants to all the remaining Serbs in Kosovo -- mostly old people, priests and nuns -- and no one seems to give a damn!

So much for our "humanitarian" instincts --this time we will be the "ethnic cleansers" -- and to our detriment!


21 posted on 04/01/2006 9:35:55 AM PST by Bokababe
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To: Bokababe

Song on the loss of Kosovo by American Serb Ben Vukicevich. http://iacmusic.com/songs.aspx?SongID=14758&ArtistID=17064

It's about a Serb living in Kosovo talking to UN Envoy Marti Ahtisaari. I love
the hook he has in there.."you get a fix from the hole in our soul." because
Kosovo is the soul of Serbian Orthodoxy


22 posted on 04/01/2006 9:55:45 AM PST by Bokababe
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To: Bokababe
Thursday March 30, 8:59 PM

Serb hopes of own entity in Kosovo dashed

By Matthew Robinson

PRISTINA, Serbia and Montenegro (Reuters) - The United Nations on Thursday dashed Serb hopes of their own "entity" in Kosovo and issued a stark response to those threatening to leave if the Albanian majority wins independence.

"When told me they couldn't live in an independent Kosovo, if this is the outcome of the status process, I told them: This is your decision, we cannot force you to stay," Albert Rohan, the deputy U.N. envoy in negotiations on Kosovo's fate, told reporters in the capital Pristina.

The Austrian diplomat, who on Wednesday visited Serbs in the north, outlined an initial proposal for Kosovo's future governing structure, the fruit of the first two rounds of Serb-Albanian talks in Vienna.

He ruled out any form of separate entity or autonomy for the 100,000 remaining Serbs, as demanded by Belgrade:

"We made it clear that this does not mean and cannot mean the creation of a separate entity," he said.

"We oppose any internal division of Kosovo and we oppose any third layer of government between the central authority and the municipalities."

Rohan is deputy to U.N. envoy Martti Ahtisaari, who is leading negotiations on the fate of the disputed Serbian province, run by the United Nations since the 1998-99 war.

Western powers have made increasingly clear they see independence as the only realistic outcome. Kosovo's two million Albanians, 90 percent of the population, have long demanded their own state and have run their affairs since 1999.

But the Serb-dominated north has resisted U.N. efforts to reintegrate it with the rest of Kosovo, threatening the province with de facto partition.

SPLIT IN TWO

Serbia lost control of Kosovo -- its "Jerusalem" -- when NATO bombs drove out Serb forces accused of atrocities against Albanian civilians in a 2-year war with separatist guerrillas, the culmination of a decade of Serb repression.

Half the Serb population fled a wave of revenge attacks. Those who stayed eke out a grim existence on the margins of society, cocooned in a Belgrade-run world of "parallel structures" outside Kosovo's Albanian-dominated institutions.

The leaders of three mainly Serb municipalities in the north, which enjoy a natural land link to central Serbia, warned on Wednesday that Kosovo would be split in two if the U.N. Security Council grants independence later this year.

Many Serbs living in scattered enclaves across the rest of Kosovo say they will pack their bags and leave.

But partition, with implications of forced population movements, is a taboo concept in the West.

Rohan argued that the plan for decentralisation, the core of negotiations that began last month in Vienna, should provide the Serbs with enough local powers to convince them to stay.

The document allows for cooperation between Serb areas within Kosovo and financial donations from Belgrade.

"What we can do is to provide conditions where objectively we can expect the Serbs to stay and to come back," said Rohan, ahead of the next round of talks on April 3. "Whether they want to stay, to return, to leave, is their decision."

23 posted on 04/01/2006 9:57:07 AM PST by Dragonfly
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To: Dragonfly

These Serb Christians have no choice but to leave. Because if this http://kosovo.com/news/archive/2005/March_17/1.html is what was allowed to happen right under the noses of an armed International Force, then what will happen when that Force is gone? A complete ethnice cleansing by the Muslim Albanians of all non-Alabanians!


24 posted on 04/01/2006 10:53:57 AM PST by Bokababe
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To: lawdog

".. dismantle the welfare state and stop the perversion of the 14th Amendment by judges..."

Won't happen. I was driving home from the library today watching all the Illegals crowding the streets and I got to thinking. They come here and take minimum wage jobs, bring their families up, get housing assistance, WIC, medical care and they don't pay a dime for it. They're stealing from the taxpayers directly and are busy pumping out another generation of leeches. We can't win like this. It's in the governments interest to continue the gravy train because it provides jobs for bureaucrats and power for politicians. We are well and truly slaves to the government.


25 posted on 04/01/2006 11:15:47 AM PST by dljordan
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To: dljordan
BTTT

And the govt. expects us to support all the illegals and THE WAR on terrorism as well.

ARE THEY CRAZY???

Yes, like a FOX!!

26 posted on 04/01/2006 11:39:40 AM PST by Lion in Winter (violent islam is the same as just plain islam. No peace at all!! Just mass mayhem.)
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To: lawdog
Oh, I see a pattern here!!

The USA fights terrorism in one place and gives it a BIG hand-up, someplace else.

THING IS... THE TERRORISTS THEY HELP ARE ALWAYS KILLING AND DISPLACING CHRISTIANS!! Like in Bosnia and KOSOVO!

27 posted on 04/01/2006 11:43:41 AM PST by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Bokababe

The Serbs could drive the albanians into the sea in two weeks. Serb patriots should be stocking up just as American patriots should be doing.


28 posted on 04/01/2006 11:46:03 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! "From the halls of Montezuma...")
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To: Bokababe
Who is going to bomb us????

Hey, I know who will bomb us...the Middle Eastern mujahedeen who helped our ALLIES, the Bosnian muslims back in the Yugoslavian civil war.

Hey,wait... they already did on 9/11. Osama's boys, the mujahadeen of Bosnia.

29 posted on 04/01/2006 11:48:10 AM PST by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: junta
I agree that would be a great idea.

However,the UN and NATO went through Serbian homes with fine tooth combs in Kosovo and disarmed them. Even took their hunting rifles, I read on FR a few years back.

Why I read the soldiers even tore up Altars in the Serbian Orthodox Churches in Kosovo, manhandled the nuns, priests and monks in attempts to find ANY weapons.

NATO/UN FOUND ZERO!! NUTHIN'

30 posted on 04/01/2006 11:52:30 AM PST by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Bokababe
“One of the largest, boldest banners visible from aerial shots of the rally read: 'THIS IS STOLEN LAND'

Yes, and the Mexicans took it from the Indians who took it from the Dinosaurs. So what's the problem ?

31 posted on 04/01/2006 11:52:33 AM PST by oldbrowser (We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow......R.R)
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To: All

An outrageous injustice has been done to reporter Sherrie Gossett!

CNS Reporter Sherry Gossett was abruptly fired -- not for "bad reporting" but rather for the controversy that her article Former NY Times Reporter: '93 Pulitzer Should Be Revoked http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=%5CSpecialReports%5Carchive%5C200603%5CSPE20060322a.html has created within the journalistic and government community!

This article "angered a government official", so Sherry lost her job! By firing Sherry, both our government and the journalistic community are telling her and us that they will not be questioned -- that they are beyond being questioned!

George Orwell created a vision of a "Big Brother", an all-seeing, all-controlling government and media in his novel "1984". Well, folks, "1984" is happening in 2006!

When we are no longer afforded a truly free press, when we are no longer allowed to read dissenting views, or present dissenting views without fear of reprisals, then WE ARE NO LONGER A FREE PEOPLE!

This cannot go unanswered! Here is the toll-free phone number listed for CNS News: 877-CNS-NEWS. Call them and voice your opinion on the firing of Sherry Gossett. Every moment you stay on the line, you costs them money and Sherry deserves our support!


32 posted on 04/01/2006 12:27:45 PM PST by Bokababe (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance)
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To: Lion in Winter
Nobody needs to bomb us. The UN, Organization of American States, other t*rd world organizations, and possibly an Islamized EU could just boycott our good ands refuse to sell us oil. We could be strangled economically such that we would just hand over the SW and any other piece of territory Mexico says is part of its cr@phole of a Motherland. Which is why we all need to learn what we can about alternative energy sources and demand the government get behind a policy of energy independence.
33 posted on 04/01/2006 2:46:21 PM PST by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: attiladhun2
"Hey, I know who will bomb us...the Middle Eastern mujahedeen who helped our ALLIES, the Bosnian muslims back in the Yugoslavian civil war.

Hey,wait... they already did on 9/11. Osama's boys, the mujahadeen of Bosnia.

SARCASM OFF

34 posted on 04/01/2006 3:41:15 PM PST by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Bokababe

Delete the Previous information re Sherry Gossett & CNS. I am told that the information is not accurate.

BB


35 posted on 04/03/2006 8:10:14 AM PDT by Bokababe (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance)
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To: Bokababe
But what kind of hypocrites do we look like to the world when we demand one thing for ourselves, but something else from another country in the same circumstance?

Uh, Bokababe, the situations are not comparable. The Serbs under Milosevic changed their constitution and took away self-rule in Kosovo--the equivalent of what we have at the state level, removed Albanian mayors & judges & police and replaced them with Serbs--often from outside the province, shut down Albanian language newspapers, fired Albanian workers & again put Serbs in their places, arbitrarily imprisoned Albanian political leaders and protestors for years at a time, and closed Albanian schools & fired Albanian teachers.

Then when some of the Albanians had enough and began fighting back, the Serbs predictably over-reacted with their typical (if you paid attention to Bosnia and Croatia) burning of villages and disregard for civilian casualties. Also, predictably, the heavy-handed Serb tactics turned a minor insurgency into a full-blown, popularly supported war of liberation.

When the US government removes legitimately elected and appointed Hispanic officials, when our soldiers surround Hispanic populated villages in California and fire tank rounds into them, when we change our Constitution to emplace direct federal rule over Arizona and New Mexico, then you can start comparing how Serbia treated Kosovo with the USA.

36 posted on 04/03/2006 5:18:39 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

Before the NATO Bombing, dead on all sides in Kosovo, including the soldiers on both sides, never exceeded a few thousand.

And you do not consider that the Clinton strong-arming countries for a 78 day bombing of Yugoslavia, spending billions to do it, "an overeaction"?

We invaded a sovereign country! And now, to justify it, we are about to dismember it to give away Kosovo to friends of bin Laden, narco-terrorist sex-slavery pushing Albanian Mafia -- creating a new Muslim country in Europe!
Want to tell me how that is in the US' "best interests"?
It isn't. We got boondoggled and we are trying to cover it up, slitting our own throat to do it!

Anyone who thinks this is over, is foolish. First Kosovo, then a piece of Macedonia, then more of Serbia and Montenegro to connect them to Muslim Bosnia, then a piece of Greece -- a perfect place from which to launch Jihad on Europe!


37 posted on 04/06/2006 10:40:22 AM PDT by Bokababe (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance)
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To: Bokababe
Before the NATO Bombing, dead on all sides in Kosovo, including the soldiers on both sides, never exceeded a few thousand.

Actually less, about 2,000.

And you do not consider that the Clinton strong-arming countries for a 78 day bombing of Yugoslavia, spending billions to do it, "an overeaction"?

All the countries in NATO from Greece & Turkey to Iceland and Canada voted unanimously for the use of force three times, twice in 1998 and the last time in 1999--didn't take much "strong-arming." They all had seen what happened at Srebrenica and understood the costs of not acting early to stop Serbian ethnic cleansing. Having said that, I still think we could have negotiated a better solution than bombing--but the story of how the Clinton Administration bungled Rambouillet is pretty well known.

As for Kosovo as "a new Muslim country in Europe", enough already with the Serb propaganda! Albanian Catholic churches were damaged during the war also, but the people doing the damage were Serb soldiers and paramilitaries--does that mean that the Serbs are jihadists? or anti-Christian?

The conflict was a fight for liberty by the Kosovo Albanians that was rooted in long-term nationalistic antagonisms between Serbs and Albanians. BTW, here's a photo from last year of the elected Christian President of Kosovo helping lay the cornerstone for a Christian cathedral in Kosovo:

Kosovo President Ibrahim Rugova lays the foundation stone for the Mother Teresa Cathedral in Pristina on Friday (26 August). The cathedral marks the 95th anniversary of Mother Teresa’s birth. Rugova was joined by Kosovo Diocese head Father Mark Sopi and Washington Cardinal Theodore McCarrick. [Laura Hasani]

38 posted on 04/08/2006 6:33:13 AM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

Enough already with the Albanian propaganda! The jig is up, Mark -- people are waking up to the real world now.

Over 90% of Kosovo Albanians are Muslim, period -- and not one respectable source denies that. Only about 60,000 in an area of 2,000,000 are Roman Catholic and there are some Albanian Orthodox -- but that does not change the 90+% Muslim number, which makes the statement "a new Muslim country in Europe" quite accurate.

Re "strong-arming NATO allies to bomb Serbia". I was in Greece right after the NATO Bombing and was repeatedly told wherever we went that Greeks were protesting in the streets against the NATO Bombing of Serbia-- until Madeline Albright threatened to have a State Department "warning" recommending "against travel to Greece". Greece's economy is based almost completely on tourism and such a "State Department warning" could have collapsed the entire economy of Greece, so they gave in and gave up -- but not without passively sabotaging NATO forces wherever they could. Friends in Italy told the same story of riots and protests, but the media virtually ignored it. That is "strong-arming", no matter how you package it.

Muslim objections to erecting the statue -- until they realized its PR value. Now she is even on stamps! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1605980/posts



39 posted on 04/10/2006 5:10:00 PM PDT by Bokababe (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance)
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