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Posted on 03/31/2006 9:39:18 AM PST by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham
Its the Nazification of an entire demographic of American people. True American people, the Southerner. Of which there would probably not be an America if not for victories fought by southerners at two little places called Kings Mountain and Cowpens.
To: Crackingham
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posted on
03/31/2006 9:54:27 AM PST
by
reelfoot
To: HitmanLV
As long as the leftists are using the courts to impose their ideology on the rest of us, we should use the courts to block them. 'Nuff said.
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posted on
03/31/2006 9:54:36 AM PST
by
chesley
(Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
To: HitmanLV
not whacked out, the best defense is a good offense.
To assume southerners have rolled over to the political correctness of offending no one is to be mistaken. To honor one's heritage is laudable.
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posted on
03/31/2006 9:55:20 AM PST
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
To: HitmanLV
I think a school can set a dress code. It's within their rights as a school. Same as businesses can set a dress code. Good point, but I think most people are forgetting the moral aspects. Regardless of whether or not she has the freedom to wear it, morally she should not. Society can morally condemn actions that the government should not prohibit.
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posted on
03/31/2006 9:55:49 AM PST
by
Jibaholic
(We wouldn't let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? -- Josef Stalin)
To: TexasCajun
You don't get it. Mexicans can wave their flag, blacks can call you honky. Affirmative Action must redress these imbalances; you, however, have no right to your racist past.
Who says so? Why, the US government.
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posted on
03/31/2006 9:56:35 AM PST
by
kjo
To: HitmanLV
What is the legal distinction between religious speech political content from a constitutional standpoint? What really bugs me is that with all the peversion that is expressed in the pop culture, this girl has to go through all of this because she wants honor her southern heritage. This is not the same country it used to be.
To: HitmanLV
As I said, schools and businesses can set dress codes. That's not too controversial. Is it appropriate for the school to set dress codes based on a person's beliefs, though?
I.e., students wearing pro-homosexual clothing are not reprimanded in the least, but students wearing Confederate symbols are? How is that fair?
Either have a dress code which forbids all political symbolsNO MATTER WHATor allow all of them. That, to me, is what defines a "Fair" dress code. We'll see if the Courts agree.
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posted on
03/31/2006 9:58:35 AM PST
by
detsaoT
(Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
To: Crackingham
many people consider racially charged, is disruptive in school, The symbol is not disruptive, it's the other students and teachers that have disruptive behavior.
To: stainlessbanner
We have seen this before, and thank God, the school systems are starting to lose these battles. Unfortunately for every one we win, another two idiots pop up somewhere else. She'll probably win though.
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:03:00 AM PST
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: chesley
As long as the leftists are using the courts to impose their ideology on the rest of us, we should use the courts to block them. 'Nuff said.No, I don't think so.
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:08:24 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
To: billbears
I hope she wins. It is time to stand up for Southern values somewhere. Why not in the South?
I know a fair number of blacks who would wear such a shirt if they were "free" of the coercion of peers.
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:09:33 AM PST
by
Spirited
To: bert
I don't decide whether something is whacked out or not based on the person or the 'side' they are on. I look at the substance of what they are saying.
A school can have a dress code. I think that's legitimate. Nobody (except maybe a parent figure) is stopping the student from dressing in any way they want on their own time. This kind of lawsuit is dumb no matter who is making the case.
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:11:30 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
To: Jibaholic
I didn't broach the moral aspect of it. I don't think wearing confederacy nostalgic clothing is necessarily a moral issue.
For me, this is about a school setting a dress code. Their dress code should be fair and evenhanded, I agree with that, though.
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:13:38 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
To: wordoffaith
I have no problem with the school setting a dress code for its students. Both religious speech and political speech are protected by the USC.
But nobody is stopping the student from expressing anything - the school is just holding her to a standard when sher is on school grounds.
That's entirely legitimate.
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:16:20 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
To: billbears; stainlessbanner
I find it amusing that we've been warning the anti-Confederates amongst us that, by supporting the suppresion of Southern symbols from schools, ultimately they will be forced to suppress American symbols. I think that the blatant display of these recent Mexican agitators illustrates
supremely that, in fact, Americans no longer have any right to hoist their symbols
anywhere without being painted "racist" by the "reconquisti."
This photo has BEEN MADE POSSIBLE by the kind of politically-correct pandering which has caused the suppression of Confederate symbols:
Can we at least get a bit of credit over here for predicting this outcome? ;)
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:16:54 AM PST
by
detsaoT
(Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
To: detsaoT
I don't think its that simple, but I am all for an evenhanded dress code.
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:18:01 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
To: HitmanLV
For me, this is about a school setting a dress code. Their dress code should be fair and evenhanded, I agree with that, though. Thanks for the agreement, Hitman. I am all for a dress code as wellin the form of a school uniform. Students are, in my opinion, in school to be educated, not to be indoctrinated, espouse beliefs, cause or participate in debates over "rights," not to protest in the streets, etc. I don't think it's fair at all, though, to define an arbitrary dress code which only punishes beliefs which are contrary to the established Liberal ruling class.
Regards,
~dt~
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:19:08 AM PST
by
detsaoT
(Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
To: detsaoT
I'm not against school uniforms at all. I think they are a good thing. I also think a basic dress code can be devised that covers most of the bases. For example: for males, a clean, collared shirt with no logos or designs on it, clean & untorn jeans or pants, and shoes. For females, a women's shirt or blouse with no designs or logos on it, clean & untorn skirt or pants, and shoes. No hats indoors, while some leeway will be given for religious observance and dress.
Or school uniforms.
OK, this may make me sound like I belong in the 1950s or something, but the male dress code was basically the dress code for my old high school in the early to mid 1980s. Private school, though. In any case, school uniforms or a fair dress code are entirely legitimate.
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:28:11 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
To: HitmanLV
I'd agree with your dress code 100%. Sadly, though, I know of no public school which enforces
anything of the sort. Rather, dress codes tend to be a jumbled mess which exclude symbols that Leftists get offended at.
Check out Fairfax County's dress code, if I may use a local example. The following are barred:
- Clothing that interferes with or disrupts the educational environment is unacceptable. (yet, the only dress which falls into this category, is conservative.)
- ... with Language or images that are vulgar, discriminatory, or obscene
- ... which promotes illegal or violent conduct, such as the unlawful use of:
- weapons
- drugs
- alcohol
- tobacco
- drug paraphernalia
- "Cloathing which contains threats," such as Gang symbols (a serious problem around these parts, but this is a very broad definition)
I have very distinct memories of the kinds of clothing worn by the gay and feminist crowds when I was going through FCPS, and I must say that while I was extremely offended by the message they were sending, and felt as if they were "disrupting" my education [particularly on "Silence Day" or any of the other quasi-official PC events], nobody from
that crowd got punished.
The school did, however, have to provide security for a friend of mine who had the gall to write and publish an article in the school newspaper supporting the mere right of students to wear Confederate symbols. (Let's just say that there were certain... ethnic groups... who were threatening violence against him.)
Does my objection to what passes as a dress code make more sense in this context? Can you see what people such as myself are frustrated about, whenever we read stories such as this one?
Kindest regards,
~dt~
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posted on
03/31/2006 10:39:29 AM PST
by
detsaoT
(Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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