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NYC Mayor's Criticism of Gun Legislation Challenged
CNSNews.com ^ | March 31, 2006 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 03/31/2006 10:46:31 AM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

We don't call him Mayor Blooming-idiot for nothing!!!!


21 posted on 03/31/2006 12:15:58 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Blue Jays

Sorry, it was Blooming-idiot or Green. The choice was a no brainer.


22 posted on 03/31/2006 12:17:02 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: bill1952

Bueller...Bueller...


23 posted on 03/31/2006 12:17:45 PM PST by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: xarmydog
NY would give a scummer like Sean Penn a CCF,but a good citizen,forget it.[Calif.did].

Celebrities like William F. Buckley and actors could no longer renew concealed carry licenses after a guy with probable AIDS related dementia killed a Councilman in City Hall by Bloomboob's decree.

24 posted on 03/31/2006 12:25:09 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Normally I would reply,thats a joke right?But I know better.I think he is worried some sane man would shoot him for being so stupid.


25 posted on 03/31/2006 12:29:13 PM PST by xarmydog
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To: OldFriend
Hi OldFriend-

Fernando Ferrer, Mark Green, Al Sharpton, aaaahhhh!

Decent people may work in NYC for the foreseeable future, but they will likely continue to move to points north, south, and west for permanent residency. It is a tough spot to be a genuine and outspoken conservative who happens to live in that den of vipers.

~ Blue Jays ~

26 posted on 03/31/2006 12:38:03 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: neverdem
Okay, you did make my usual 100 year cutoff by three years. 8^)

Christ, where are any politicians like him now?

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

27 posted on 03/31/2006 1:06:03 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

Thanks for the quote!


28 posted on 03/31/2006 1:14:01 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Blue Jays
The conservative candidate who ran against Rudy Guiliani nearly got us another four years of David Dinkins.

Sean's constant praising of the conservative party in NY is COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE IN THE EXTREME

The conservative candidate got about 1-2% and Rudy barely won that first election.

29 posted on 03/31/2006 1:22:01 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: neverdem; All

Former Democrat Bloomber is just waiting for a pro-gun grabber administration in order to pursue the gun makers. This "objection" is nothing more than an attempt to make more civil litigation where none should exist.

We should view these laws becoming permanent as TORT REFORM.


30 posted on 03/31/2006 1:25:16 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: OldFriend
Hi OldFriend-

For the life of me I can't recall the names of any of the Republicans who ran against Mayor Giuliani in the primary years ago. Was the candidate you're talking about a genuine conservative?

~ Blue Jays ~

31 posted on 03/31/2006 3:12:41 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays; OldFriend

Henry Hewes (1989, great guy) and George Marlin (1993, no comment) both ran against Giuliani. Ronald Lauder, son of Estee, ran against Rudy in the 1989 primary.


32 posted on 03/31/2006 4:45:21 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Blue Jays

You have to be careful, many of the suburbs of NYC are just as liberal as the city. The Republican voting areas of the NYC suburbs are western New Jersey (Morris, Somerset, and Hunterdon County), Upstate Exurbia (Orange County) and parts of Fairfield County in Connecticut (especially Darien, New Canaan and Fairfield. Greenwich is not as heavily Republican, but still went for Bush with about 51% and then 54% of the vote).


33 posted on 03/31/2006 4:47:48 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Clemenza
Marlin.....gggggggrrrrrrrrrr

Kemp and Bennet came riding into town campaigning for Marlin.

A lesson to freepers who demanded purity and slick willie brought us death and destruction on 9/11.

34 posted on 03/31/2006 5:22:31 PM PST by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: bill1952
'To The Barricades!'

You were the second to send me that quote from TR today. It's about 2/3 - 3/4 down through comment# 20.

35 posted on 03/31/2006 7:29:10 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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"Under the terms of H.R. 5005, a detective who shares ATF trace information with another state government for use in a license revocation hearing against a rogue dealer would be committing a federal felony - a crime punishable by up to five years in prison," Bloomberg complained. "In other words, if an NYPD Detective talks to a New Jersey State Trooper about a problem gun dealer problem, that Detective could go to jail."

It's too bad the same thing doesn't happened to BATFE and FBI agents who serve warrants in blatantly unreasonable, and thus Unconstitutional, ways. Or those that apply criminal penalties to paperwork errors, or those that lie about the accuracy of the National Firearms Registry.

If a cop breaks the law, why should he not be punished? Besides it's not clear that these two police exchanging such trace information would not be perfectly OK under the law, if it were for a "criminal prosecution". It just couldn't be used by overzealous local officials to shut down gun dealers not involved in criminal activity, nor to support civil suits with the same end in mind.

36 posted on 03/31/2006 7:46:23 PM PST by El Gato
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To: bill1952
Note what party Bloomberg belongs to.

That would be the same one as Mr. McCain, the RINO party? According to his Wikipedia entry, "Bloomberg, a lifelong member of the Democratic Party, decided to run for mayor as a member of the Republican Party, reportedly to avoid the crowded field in the Democratic primary.".

So in reality, he's a Limousine Liberal, masquerading as a RINO.

37 posted on 03/31/2006 7:52:05 PM PST by El Gato
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To: bill1952
Any great Republican leaders emerge from NY?

Teddy Roosevelt.

"The son of a wealthy, socially prominent merchant, Roosevelt was born in New York City on Oct. 27, 1858. He was educated by private tutors and studied at Harvard University, graduating in 1880 as a member of Phi Beta Kappa and the most prestigious social clubs"

Different branch of the family than the Socialist Franklin, although they were related, and Franklin's wife Eleanor was Theodore's niece, although raised from age of 8 by her maternal grandmother. Her father Elliot Roosevelt died when she was 10. However, Uncle Teddy did give her away when she married Franklin.

38 posted on 03/31/2006 8:05:11 PM PST by El Gato
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To: neverdem
Gardiner continued. "It just says ATF can't do it, but it doesn't provide any penalty if they do."

Which of course means that they will violate this provision on a routine basis. Gone are the days that "the law" obeyed the law, just because it is the law. Of course with the BATFE, those days *never* were.

39 posted on 03/31/2006 8:06:54 PM PST by El Gato
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Back alley gun deals in NY are in the millions of dollars every year. The sad part is that a large chunk of purchases are being made by otherwise law abiding citizens.
An obvious side-effect of the draconian licensing laws in New York State, where you need a "carry permit" (usually restricted so it's not a true CCW) to even touch a handgun.

If not intending to carry concealed, I'd expect most people would go the safest route and buy a pump shotgun from a private seller in upstate New York, and avoid all the paperwork.

40 posted on 04/01/2006 1:06:19 AM PST by Nonesuch (BATFE: They wanted to be a cool three-letter org like DEA, now they've got an extra 'E' instead!)
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