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Illegal aliens didn't build U.S.
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | March 29, 2006 | Jack Markowitz

Posted on 04/01/2006 6:57:01 AM PST by Supernatural

It's a new chapter in the Promised Land. We are becoming The Land That Better Keep Its Promises - or Else. Even promises that never were made.

A half-million illegal aliens and friends and sympathizers have taken to the streets of late, demanding unhampered residency and employment. Their anger is being whipped up against an America that would fence its borders against more coming over, and require proper payroll-keeping and taxpaying from employers who hire them outside the law.

Why? In part because a new myth is gaining currency. It is that illegal immigrants, mostly of Mexican or other Hispanic origin, "built this country." Without them the economy would collapse.

"We are the motor of this nation!" a speaker harangued the 500,000 who marched in Los Angeles on Saturday. "We construct your schools! We cook your food!" Other thousands marched to this beat of indispensability in Phoenix, Denver and Milwaukee.

That people who entered the United States by stealth feel entitled to tie up U.S. downtowns with their grievances is nervy in the first place. But their slant on U.S. history is off the wall. No better clue might be needed that kids should be taught in English, fast!

It was religious freedom-seekers from England who began building this country, followed by natives of every part of Europe, Asia and Africa. And their descendants keep right on building it as e pluribus unum Americans -- "out of the many, one." Don't expect them to honor some dubious economic necessity to let everybody in.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; indenturedservitude; outsourcethesenate; rinos; scamnesty; soros; wageslavery
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To: Supernatural
"Obviously, Americans and legal immigrants would. Because the jobs would rise to market levels of compensation and appropriate taxation or go unfilled. As it is, we subsidize agribusiness and service industries (and our own consumers, let's admit) with an underclass of ill-paid, off-the-books, alien workers. And try to kid ourselves, as President Bush seems to, that this labor input is vital to the economy. As if it's all on the asset side, never mind the costs of social services.

Politically, to the nervous, the marchers might have a case. Economically, they don't.

The author "GETS IT" and I would bet so do the lawmaking politicians who prefer to lawbreak for the almighty lobbyists and businesses at what cost to the taxpayer? I am so tired of supporting the illegals and hispanics who are on medicaid and welfare. If they "came just to work" than why are they on welfare? Oh yeh because of the employers who hire them illegally and pay them below minimum wage.Wait shouldn't that be illegal?

21 posted on 04/01/2006 7:19:43 AM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: Supernatural

The economic argument for mass immigration has never been strong, but sadly the GOP leadership buys into all the hysterical myths.


23 posted on 04/01/2006 7:20:07 AM PST by Aetius
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To: Dane; Supernatural
And you on Monday morning are going to apply for a vegetable picker or janitorial job?

That's no justification for hiring ILLEGALS. They're here illegaly That's the key.

If the government would ease restrictions on legal immigration and do some kind of guest worker program, then getting people to do those jobs wouldn't be a problem.

24 posted on 04/01/2006 7:20:26 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Bawana Jim
When big business was polluting the country to make a buck was that all right with you? Do fruits and vegetable's not grow in Mexico? Can our prisons send out fruit pickers?

Wow things a bit slow in the AFL-CIO/DNC basement this morning.

25 posted on 04/01/2006 7:21:53 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Vegetable pickers? Not in my state. We're not agriculture based here. The illegals here are doing most of the framing, painting, roofing, plumbing, and drywall on residential and commerical construction. Is this work Americans won't do? No. Increasingly it's work they can't get because they have been crowded out of the of market.

You are cherry-picking cherry-picking as your justification for why we need 30 million illegals clogging our hospitals, social services, and public schools. That's not very honest of you.

In my state these people have moved quickly beyond work that "Americans won't do" and have been aggressively taking up much higher-paying and more skilled jobs.

26 posted on 04/01/2006 7:23:49 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: metmom
That's no justification for hiring ILLEGALS. They're here illegaly That's the key

So that orange you buy from the supermarket is also "illegal".

Whew let's trash all the produce from market sheleves, it's impure, because a guy named Jose picked it.

27 posted on 04/01/2006 7:24:26 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dr. Thorne
You know what? I'll cut my own lawn, bag my own groceries, avoid eating at McDonald's and pay the higher wages to American construction workers that they richly deserve. Adios, amigos!

You said it.

There are plenty of teens out there who are willing to mow lawns and shovel snow and work at McD's. I did when I was a kid and my kids do the same. They like the money and it really can pay pretty well for the amount of work involved , especially considering it's virtually tax free (except for McD's).

28 posted on 04/01/2006 7:25:27 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dane

This is about illegal aliens invading our country.

Soon they will take ALL the jobs as the illegals will work for far cheaper wages than Americans will.

The middle class of this country is being destroyed.

Hope they take your job next at 1/3 of the money your employer is paying you. Then your job can become a "job Americans won't do".


29 posted on 04/01/2006 7:26:32 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Supernatural

If they built this country what happened to Mexico?


30 posted on 04/01/2006 7:26:36 AM PST by jetson (throne)
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To: JCEccles
You are cherry-picking cherry-picking as your justification for why we need 30 million illegals clogging our hospitals, social services, and public schools. That's not very honest of you

Uh where did you "cherry-pick" the 30 million number from?

Also interesting that you do not mention the trial lawyers ruining the health care system, or the teacher unions ruining the education system.

Oh that's correct it's all "cherry picker Jose's" fault.

31 posted on 04/01/2006 7:28:10 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: jetson

Excellent point. Let them stay in Mexico and build up their own country.

We got pretty far here without them taking "jobs that Americans won't do".

And just who did those jobs in America before the Mexicans swarmed in? The jobs didn't do themselves.


32 posted on 04/01/2006 7:29:01 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Dane

Make like a tree and leave.

You are nothing but a disruptor.


33 posted on 04/01/2006 7:29:39 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Supernatural
Soon they will take ALL the jobs as the illegals will work for far cheaper wages than Americans will.

Uh, Brit Hume reported that jesse jackson did a bus tour to different cities to get Katrina evacuees to come back to New Orleans to take jobs offering $20 an hour to rebuild their city.

In St. Louis jesse jackson got 3 people to join the bus, 2 of them spoke Spanish.

34 posted on 04/01/2006 7:31:02 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Supernatural
Make like a tree and leave.

You are nothing but a disruptor

Whatever DUmmie newbie.

35 posted on 04/01/2006 7:32:10 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
An average Arizona family of five pays about $3500 a year in various taxes to support illegal aliens.

That "cheap" tomato isn't so cheap after all, is it?

36 posted on 04/01/2006 7:33:30 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Supernatural
The thrust of the article must be absolutely correct as any thoughtful and observant person living in the USA would know.

Last night I was clicking through the channels on TV and I happened upon a PBS program on great engineering projects around NYNY. You have the GW bridge (Amman), you have the Veranzanno narrows bridge (Amman), the Holland tunnel (Holland) and other bridges we all know (Lindenthall). Amman and Lindenthall had accents but were classically and technically educated and spoke perfect English. Holland was similarly educated and was at least second or third generation American.

The point is, great works require great men (or women) to conceptualize and execute the ideas and plans. In these cases, government was merely the payer and the lubricant for the engineering feats. Hoards of criminal aliens can not do what is necessary to elevate their masses, let alone, the masses of the people to where they arrive. Labor alone is always available, at the right price and time, it has always been available, and as labor becomes more expensive, great engineers design and develop ways to extend and amplify the labor available by using machines and better systems. Simply put, labor should always be the least of our concerns as a nation, the greatness of our best and average person should be what we are concerned with.

Identify a great Mexican aircraft designer or builder, a bridge builder and designer, or a physicist? If they are available, those are whom we should allow to immigrate here, but leave out the leaf rakers, the pool cleaners, the chicken pluckers, etc., those are available anywhere in the world where one wants to find them.
37 posted on 04/01/2006 7:34:14 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: Dane

You are the one spouting DU talking points, old-timer!

THIS is a CONSERVATIVE web site.

You have been here long enough to know that.

I guess you got lost on your way to DU this morning.


38 posted on 04/01/2006 7:35:51 AM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: JCEccles
"Is this work Americans won't do? No. Increasingly it's work..." American consumers would rather not pay American wages for.

I'd like to see all illegals kicked out, but it cracks me up to see business blamed for amswering consumers' demands.

American consumers are going to demand that most illegals be readmitted. Fine, I just want the government to control the immigration.

39 posted on 04/01/2006 7:35:55 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: JCEccles
An average Arizona family of five pays about $3500 a year in various taxes to support illegal aliens.

And also, white and black native born American deadbeats, where is your "outrage" towards them?

Oh I forgot, that doesn't fit your DUmmie power grabbing ethnic splitting agenda.

40 posted on 04/01/2006 7:36:38 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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