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Supreme Court Rejects Jose Padilla Case
Yahoo News/AP ^ | 4/3/2006 | GINA HOLLAND

Posted on 04/03/2006 11:44:56 AM PDT by truth_seeker

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It looks like the SC is NOT going to shoot down the Administrations pursuit of justice against terrorists.

Note Ginsburg, Breyer and Souter against the administration. GHW Bush was sleepwalking when he appointed Souter.

1 posted on 04/03/2006 11:45:01 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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6-3 is "a divided court". Nice work, AP.


2 posted on 04/03/2006 11:47:28 AM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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Padilla was moved in January to Miami to face criminal charges, and the government argued that the appeal over his indefinite detention was now pointless.

The administration only finally brought him to justice in order to avoid a ruling on the constitutionality of their actions. What were they afraid of?

3 posted on 04/03/2006 11:47:56 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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GHWB was, unfortunately, sleepwalking throughout the entirety of his administration - at least domestically - its what got him defeated....


5 posted on 04/03/2006 11:49:02 AM PDT by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Padilla's case was different. It asked the court to clarify how far the government can go when its hunt for terrorists leads to Americans in this country.

I remember an interview with Padilla (why don't we use his Muslim name?) and he said Jose was caught "on the streets of O'Hare airport".

He was arrested at a port having returned from an international destination. Good enough for me.

6 posted on 04/03/2006 11:49:50 AM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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THere was no surprise that Ginsdilla, Breyerdilla and Soupad wanted their brother terrorist/terrorist sympathizer given appeal rights of some sort.


7 posted on 04/03/2006 11:49:51 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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>>>The administration only finally brought him to justice in order to avoid a ruling on the constitutionality of their actions. What were they afraid of?

And if found to be not guilty of criminal charges, can the administration then choose to once again detain him indefinitely as an enemy combatant?


8 posted on 04/03/2006 11:50:11 AM PDT by NC28203
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Padilla=Padilla's lawyer


9 posted on 04/03/2006 11:50:24 AM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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How is Padilla's case different from McVeigh's?
10 posted on 04/03/2006 11:51:38 AM PDT by dhs12345
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the ABC top-of-the-hour radio spot called it "sharply divided".

It makes more sense than "narrowly split".


12 posted on 04/03/2006 12:00:15 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.(one nation, under sharia))
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Note Ginsburg, Breyer and Souter against the administration. GHW Bush was sleepwalking when he appointed Souter.

The question wasn't whether the detention was legal, but whether the court should address the issue of its legality. The government finally putting him on trial removed the legal need for this case, but those three justices wanted the issue decided now rather than wait for the next case.

I disagree with those three. The government's move was brilliant, as it changed the constitutionality into an academic exercise, and courts are supposed to decide cases, not academic exercises.

13 posted on 04/03/2006 12:05:25 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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And if found to be not guilty of criminal charges, can the administration then choose to once again detain him indefinitely as an enemy combatant?

I'm sure they could. But I'm also sure that decision would be on a fast track to the Supreme Court to decide an issue they don't want decided.

I just hope that if he's guilty (high likelihood) he's convicted and gets the max.

14 posted on 04/03/2006 12:07:39 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Maybe I am missing something here but Padilla is a citizen with constitutional rights. Yes, we are a "war." But the Libertarian in me is very concerned when a citizen can be held indefinitely.

Our constitutional rights are more important than our security any day (IMHO). The right to meet with one's lawyer, right to a speedy trial, right to be charged,....

Note: this doesn't apply to those held in Gitmo.
15 posted on 04/03/2006 12:11:49 PM PDT by dhs12345
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GHWB was, unfortunately, sleepwalking throughout the entirety of his administration - at least domestically - its what got him defeated....

Bush defeated? He won the last election. He overcame the Patriot act filibuster, got two U.S. Supreme court judges approved over strong objections. He saw the Iraqi's approve a constitution and start defending themselves.

The only thing I can think of that is being defeated are the insurgents, the democrats and their allies in the lamestream media.

16 posted on 04/03/2006 12:14:26 PM PDT by sr4402
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He is talking about the senior Bush being defeated.


17 posted on 04/03/2006 12:24:52 PM PDT by calex59
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To: dhs12345
Our constitutional rights are more important than our security any day (IMHO). The right to meet with one's lawyer, right to a speedy trial, right to be charged,....

Yes, he needs to be charged as a traitor and hanged. Osama is an enemy, but this guy is a traitor... worse than an enemy. And our enemies would like nothing better than to spread how to make dirty bombs across our country.

So, if this traitor knows how to spread that knowledge, he, in himself, is a dirty bomb and must be contained and disposed of properly.

If you have a way of doing that safely, we would like to hear it.

18 posted on 04/03/2006 12:25:07 PM PDT by sr4402
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Pretty simple: a trial just like McVeigh got and punishment to fit the crime.


19 posted on 04/03/2006 12:28:37 PM PDT by dhs12345
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Maybe I am missing something here but Padilla is a citizen with constitutional rights.

I don't like this notion that somehow it's ok to wage war and institute subterfuge if you're a citizen. I know that wasn't what you meant or implied but I've been hearing a lot about this lately. Prisoners of war (which I would consider him) are in a different category than ordinary criminal defendants. We've held prisoners of war for extended periods before.

It would be a much simpler matter if we just tried him for treason and hanged him, like we used to do. But the T word is never mentioned. Probably too draconian for these "enlightened" times.


20 posted on 04/03/2006 12:33:01 PM PDT by cotton1706
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