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More Damning Documents On Saddam ~<b>Origins Of War:</b>~~ Why won't Washington get the word out?
Investors Business Daily ^ | 4/7/2006 | staff

Posted on 04/08/2006 12:51:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 04/08/2006 12:51:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: jveritas

Developing story ping


2 posted on 04/08/2006 12:55:51 PM PDT by thoughtomator (A nation that cannot or will not control its borders is not a nation at all)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

*bump*


3 posted on 04/08/2006 1:01:21 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The clueless still don't get it!


4 posted on 04/08/2006 1:01:37 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bookmark


5 posted on 04/08/2006 1:03:33 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: sirchtruth

I posted this on a professional discussion board. My reply from the lefties was, "Yeah, so. This isn't about WMD, and it's obvious Saddam Hussein posed no threat to our country."

You have to be in a complete state of denial. There is no other way.


6 posted on 04/08/2006 1:03:57 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: onyx; eyespysomething

Ping


7 posted on 04/08/2006 1:05:33 PM PDT by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Southack; Marine_Uncle; Rokke

Investors Business Daily is no Newsmax...they are read by the movers and shakers. If they are starting to ask questions then others soon will follow.


8 posted on 04/08/2006 1:06:19 PM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Even if SH came out now at his trial and said he had all the WMD's he needed and was going to use them on Iran, Israel and the USA, the MSM and Dummo-crats still would say Bush lied and now put SH up to saying that ....


9 posted on 04/08/2006 1:06:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("The Americans on Flight93 did more to counter terrorism than the Democrats have done in 4 years")
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To: CheyennePress
I posted this on a professional discussion board. My reply from the lefties was, "Yeah, so. This isn't about WMD, and it's obvious Saddam Hussein posed no threat to our country."

Hate blinds a lot of people.

10 posted on 04/08/2006 1:07:33 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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To: thoughtomator
Developing story ping

Except to the lamestream media who would rather focus on Dingy Harry's complaining about the decision by the President to declassify information prior to the Iraq war. Jeezz.

11 posted on 04/08/2006 1:08:19 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Jim Robinson; onyx; jveritas; eyespysomething
From the Captain's Quarters Blog:

April 08, 2006
IBD Decries 'Amateur' Effort On Saddam Translations

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An editorial in the Investors Business Daily scolded Congress and the White House for not putting more of an official effort into translating the tens of thousands of documents captured during the fall of Iraq in 2003. CQ reader Angry Dumbo points out one passage that stands out regarding the efforts made by the blogosphere (especially at Free Republic, which translated the document I posted earlier this week):

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At present, we're relying too much on translations by bloggers and other amateurs [emphasis mine -- CE]. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra, R-Mich., says the White House has been dragging its feet for fear of embarrassing supposed allies (such as Russia) whose links with Saddam would come under scrutiny.

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I understand Angry Dumbo's irritation. It really does not matter whether amateurs or professionals translate these documents -- rather, the accuracy of the translation is all that we need to ensure. Bloggers have done this because the government simply didn't want to commit the resources necessary to do it. Rather than scold Rep. Hoekstra, IBD should congratulate him for getting someone engaged in determining the contents of this treasure trove of documentation.

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However, knowing the extent of IND's support of the blogosphere, this does not appear to be meant as an insult to bloggers. IBD wants to press the government to take responsibility for the evaluation of these documents rather than push it off to a community of volunteers. That's commendable; the government never should have let these sit for three years unexploited. We could have bridged a gap in our understanding of the war much earlier and avoided a lot of political infighting as a result.

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And Finally

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On the other hand, I'm not sure that I agree with IBD's overall assessment of this credibility gap between the volunteers and the professionals within the intelligence agencies. The administration has to deal with a high level of distrust, a lot of it irrational, that would make anything they produce suspect in most circles.

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And in CONCLUSION

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One argument that I received after posting the translation supplied by Laurie Mylroie was that because the translation came from Free Republic, it made it unreliable.

After that argument was made, I contacted two professional translators who will translate page 6 of the BIAP document independent of each other. When I receive those translations -- for which I paid a fee to both -- I will post them along with the FR translation as soon as they arrive. That should put an end to speculation about the motives of the translators, and put to rest the worries about "amateurs" involving themselves in the process.

Posted by Captain Ed at April 8, 2006 11:49 AM

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I have chopped up this for a quick flavor ........One really need to read both with concentration to understand what IBD is saying.....etc....

But it is getting interesting ......

And of course we are all Amateurs here.....

12 posted on 04/08/2006 1:09:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: tiredoflaundry
The money quote...from the article.

And the American Press missed this bombshell.

Though little noticed by the press, during a July 2004 visit to Kazakhstan the Russian president said that between 9-11 and the U.S. invasion of Iraq, "Russian special services and Russian intelligence several times received . . . information that official organs of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist acts on the territory of the U.S. and beyond its borders, at U.S. military and civilian locations."

13 posted on 04/08/2006 1:09:30 PM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra, R-Mich., says the White House has been dragging its feet for fear of embarrassing supposed allies (such as Russia) whose links with Saddam would come under scrutiny.

Maybe they are afraid Putin will supply nuclear weapons (or already has) to AQ terrorists. Russia has a long way to go before proving they are a trusted friend of the USA.

14 posted on 04/08/2006 1:09:37 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for posting this.


15 posted on 04/08/2006 1:10:21 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Dog
Ignored is more like it.
16 posted on 04/08/2006 1:12:55 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It's obvious why no one can find any mention of these docs in msm. They're just a bunch of selfish and deluded lefties who are clearly embarrassed and chagrined to find out that they were wrong (as usual) and the hated Bush was right to take out Hussein. It 's equally mystifying as to why the Bush admin sits on these docs when shouting out these revelations would fully vindicate the decision to oust Hussein.


17 posted on 04/08/2006 1:12:58 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Cap Huff; Dog; Coop; AdmSmith; jmc1969; Straight Vermonter; Wiz; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge; ...

Sorry for any double p[ings....


18 posted on 04/08/2006 1:14:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
One argument that I received after posting the translation supplied by Laurie Mylroie was that because the translation came from Free Republic, it made it unreliable.

Well well well...isnt Laurie Mylroie the same person who is a god to some on this site.

19 posted on 04/08/2006 1:16:14 PM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I will post them along with the FR translation as soon as they arrive. That should put an end to speculation about the motives of the translators, and put to rest the worries about "amateurs" involving themselves in the process.

Posted by Captain Ed at April 8, 2006 11:49 AM

Is there a ping list for this?


20 posted on 04/08/2006 1:16:19 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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