Posted on 04/11/2006 5:42:00 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
Coming up in June, the Presbyterian Church (USA) will be holding its 217th General Assembly. On the agenda will of course be the highly contentious decision from the last General Assembly to explore divestment against corporations perceived to be aiding in Israel's "occupation." I'll let the Presbyterian News Service take it from here:
Commissioners, GA business to be divided among 15 committees
Committee leaders for the eight-day Assembly, which starts on June 15 in Birmingham, AL, also were named this week by OGA [Office of the General Assembly] and Moderator Rick Ufford-Chase. Each committee will have elected commissioners as moderator and vice-moderator, plus an appointed assistant and a parliamentarian/recorder. The 534 commissioners — 267 elders and 267 ministers — will be randomly assigned to the 15 committees. Nearly every item of business before the Assembly will be processed by one of the committees, which will make recommendations to the full Assembly. The committees will meet all day on June 16 and 17, and on the afternoon of June 18 if necessary.
Some Assembly committees will be more closely watched than others...
...Various proposals related to Middle East peace and to the 2004 Assembly’s decision to “initiate the process of selective, phased divestment” from multinational corporations profiting from the occupation of Gaza and the West Bank and the construction of Israel’s security barrier will be considered by Assembly Committee 11 -- Peacemaking and International Issues...
Let's take a look at which commissioners were appointed to lead Committe #11 on Peacemaking and International Issues: the Rev. Gretchen Graf, Northern Plains, M[oderator]...stop! That's far enough.
Rev. Gretchen Graf...where have we heard that name before?
First Presbyterian Rev. Gretchen Graf managed to create a predictable controversey with a speech she gave at a memorial for 9/11 in Grand Forks, North Dakota. At that event, Graf opened her speech by saying, One year ago today, 19 young men on a mission profoundly changed our lives and the life of our nation. This was an act of faith and courage, a carefully planned statement against what they saw as the evils of a corrupt and oppressive nation. They were willing to give their lives so that the world would see their outrage. See the rest of that entry for more, in which the words "put...the shovel...down" may come to mind. Also see Best of the Web, here, under the heading, "Stupidity Watch."
Why does this cause me to become suspect at the prospects for how things are going to go at the next GA?
good morning,
see:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1612311/posts
"The reason is that the Left sees Islam as a de facto ally—as Marxists would say, an “objective ally”—in the destruction of the vestiges of the traditional society based upon Christianity and its moral code, and traditional cultural patterns. So what they are doing is using Islam as the battering ram and as a would-be fellow-traveler, in their grand anti-Christian, Christophobic design. They hope that once they create their brave, new multiculturalist Utopia, Islam can be tamed, that soft porn and state education will convert the Muslims’ offspring to the general multiculturalist melange. "
"At the theological level, the fundamental difference is the absence of love. It needs to be understood that Islam’s denial of the Trinity creates a completely different world outlook. “Allah begets not,” i.e. he is no Father, and “is not begotten,” i.e. he is no Son, and no one is like him, i.e. no Holy Spirit. The utterly . . . not only “monotheistic” but monistic image of the world under an unreachable, unknowable god, creates the kind of spiritual uniformity that ultimately results in both cultural and social-economic wasteland that is the Muslim world today."
THE ATTACHED ARTICLE ABOUT SAYS IT ALL.THE LIBERAL SO CALLED CHRISTIAN EMBRACEMENT OF LEFT LEANING THEOLOGICAL AND POLITICAL IDEAOLOGY IS A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.THE WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES WHICH ECUSA,PCUSA,CHURCH OF CHRIST,LDS,UNITARIAN,UNIVERSALIST AND ON AND ON SO-CALLED CHRISTIAN CHURCHES BELONG TOO ARE PART AND PARCEL TO THIS.
Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
I STRONGLY ADVISE DISCERNMENT IN EMBRACEING ALL WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIAN AS BRETHREN.
Yep.
The ECUSA won't be far behind with their own version of this @#$!#$#%!#$%$! They don't like it when someout "out liberals" them!
Why in the world would anyone who claims to be a Christian support a church that would let Gretchen Graf be a "minister"?
A lot of folks are asking the same question of the PCUSA, ECUSA, ELCA, UCC, and UMC. Why the Pewsitters continue sending money to support these denominational monsters is beyond comprehension.
What is typically happening is the Pewsitters are wondering why the membership in the mainline protestant churches continues to drop. Instead of reading the available information about the heretical actions of their leadership, they instead wring their hands and believe their minister when she states that "all mainline churches" are in decline so there is nothing one can do about it but send more money to the denomination.
I recall reading it here at Free Republic in the flood of post 9/11 reading, but couldn't find it.
PCUSA is nothing more than ACLU cloaking itself in the bible... its not a religion... at least not any more.
Mt 7:21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Some Presbyterians...PCUSA.
Not all.
My church, the Reformed Presby, would strongly disagree with this, as would virtually all PCUSA churches as well despite them being much more liberal than the RP.
"My church, the Reformed Presby, would strongly disagree with this, as would virtually all PCUSA churches as well despite them being much more liberal than the RP."
If virtually all PCUSA churches would strongly disagree with this, then why are virtually all PCUSA churches sending money to the denominational bureaucrats so those bureaucrats hire people like Gretchen Graf?
If these PCUSA churches are not willing to kick the radical leadership out of office, then those churches are part and parcel to what the radical leadership does.
This was also posted on the Wall Street Journal:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110002254
BY JAMES TARANTO
Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:41 p.m. EDT
Stupidity Watch
The Grand Forks (N.D.) Herald quotes the Rev. Gretchen Graf, a Presbyterian minister, who had this to say in a sermon yesterday morning: "One year ago today, 19 young men on a mission profoundly changed our lives and the life of our nation. This was an act of faith and courage, a carefully planned statement against what they saw as the evils of a corrupt and oppressive nation. They were willing to give their lives so that the world would see their outrage."
Shame on PCUSA. They should not even be called Presbyterian Church.
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