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Path to Deportation Can Start With a Traffic Stop
NY Times ^
| 4/13/06
| Paul Vitello
Posted on 04/13/2006 10:14:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
While lawmakers in Washington debate whether to forgive illegal immigrants their trespasses, a small but increasing number of local and state law enforcement officials are taking it upon themselves to pursue deportation cases against people who are here illegally.
In more than a dozen jurisdictions, officials have invoked a little-used 1996 federal law to seek special federal training in immigration enforcement for their officers.
In other places, the local authorities are flagging some illegal immigrants who are caught up in the criminal justice system, sometimes for minor offenses, and are alerting immigration officials to their illegal status so that they can be deported.
--snip--
In Suffolk County, on Long Island, where a similar police training proposal was met with angry protests in 2004, county officials have quietly put a system in place that uses sheriff's deputies to flag illegal immigrants in the county jail population.
In Putnam County, N.Y., about 50 miles north of Manhattan, eight illegal immigrants who were playing soccer in a school ball field were arrested on Jan. 9 for trespassing and held for the immigration authorities.
As an example of the uneven results that sometimes occur in such cross-hatches of local and federal law enforcement, the seven immigrants who were able to make bail before those agents arrived went free. The one who could not make bail in time, a 33-year-old roofer and father of five, has been in federal detention in Pennsylvania ever since.
"I took an oath to protect the people of this county, and that means enforcing the laws of the land," said Donald B. Smith, the Putnam County sheriff. "We have a situation in our country where our borders are not being adequately protected, and that leaves law enforcement people like us in a very difficult situation."
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deportation; dhpl; lawenforcement; path; trafficstop
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To: ZULU
"...John McCain who states that Americans are too lazy to pick lettuce at $50.00 per hour..."
He is such a codescending jerk. I heard this tape on Rush, and if the McCainiac attempts to run for president I hope to hear it over, and over, and over again.
Let a million lettuce pickers enter, but let it be done LEGALLY! And as for $50 a hour, does he really think that will ever be the prevailing wage for lettuce pickers?
Better we should all sell beer, like his wife.
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posted on
04/14/2006 2:30:51 AM PDT
by
jocon307
(The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
To: NormsRevenge
To: NormsRevenge
The rat, the ratmedia, the communists, the pimple faced kids and the illegal aliens can fool themselves, but the backlash is rolling to a town near them.
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posted on
04/14/2006 5:43:08 AM PDT
by
jmaroneps37
(Everyday brings a new reason to distrust Hillary Clinton.)
To: jocon307
There are already times of the year when iceberg lettuce sells for over a dollar a head here in the Heartland. So, people avoid it, it turns brown, gets cleaned up by removing the outer leaves & the core and ends up in the prepared deli salad for that day.
I am tired of being threatened by high produce prices. Much of our winter produce already is imported, from what I can tell.
Except in late summer, during peak harvest, prices are already high. A few dimes more would be a worthwhile price to pay for paying American citizens to harvest.
My thought has been to turn fields into Pick Your Own and to also have temporary picking jobs available for flexible periods of time. There used to be tobacco jobs available here to young people from planting through harvest that paid for shoes/clothes, used cars and college tuition costs for those willing to do hard work. How many people would be willing to work 3-4 hours at a time a few days a week for the harvest period? I would bet enough to do the job if the pay was $10/hr or so, or double the minimum wage, depending on location. Farm workers are organized and have been for 30 years. Do union workers work on piece rate or for below minimum wage?
I know many older women who pick their own strawberries at commercial farms every year and then freeze them or use them to make jam.
By doing all this, I bet we could expose the lies about "jobs Americans won't do" and $5/head lettuce prices. There is also a supply of gourmet bagged salad greens at nearly $3/bag that sell very well. Decent tomatoes are already almost $3/lb in the winter at discount stores, while ordinary tomatoes can be as low as $.68/lb. People still buy them and there is a plentiful supply. Canned tomato products are comparatively cheap.
I am not even sure any longer if we need masses of guest workers. I fear they just don't go home, stay for the benefits and I am pretty sure that some of them are voting illegally.
None of this is about produce prices. It is good to have McCain exposed on this issue. I do not want him as even a candidate and I would not vote for him. I used to say I would if he was the R nominee, but I have read too much about him. He is unstable and I do not trust him as POTUS. He also appears to be in the pocket of the large produce growers, meat packers and whomever else is looking for cheaper labor.
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posted on
04/14/2006 6:47:19 AM PDT
by
reformedliberal
(May 1st, 2006 is American Citizen Shop 'Til You Drop Day!)
To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...
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posted on
04/14/2006 7:07:03 AM PDT
by
Born Conservative
(Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
To: NormsRevenge
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posted on
04/14/2006 7:07:36 AM PDT
by
Born Conservative
(Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
To: NormsRevenge
The Feds will probably threaten to withhold Highway Funds.
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posted on
04/14/2006 7:08:59 AM PDT
by
Wolfie
To: NormsRevenge
With all the uproar and outrage and claims that Americans are united against illegals the real info here is that A DOZEN jurisdictions out of tens of thousands have joined this program. WHERE are ALL the rest?
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posted on
04/14/2006 7:10:07 AM PDT
by
justshutupandtakeit
(If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
To: NormsRevenge
George A. Terezakis, a Long Island immigration lawyer, said that in his practice, he had seen a trend. "The heat is definitely getting turned up. Not just on criminals, but against people I would consider charged with relatively minor offenses: Having an invalid driver's license, a fake Social Security card.Silly me, and I thought that a having a fake Social Security card was a serious offense. Had I gone to law school, I would have known that! /end sarcasm
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posted on
04/14/2006 7:11:08 AM PDT
by
Born Conservative
(Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
To: NormsRevenge
Yes, but what about the "asylum cities" that refuse to investigate, let alone incarcerate illegal aliens?
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posted on
04/14/2006 7:13:12 AM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
To: HiJinx
To: NormsRevenge
....this is how it should be done. No "mass deportations" needed.
Just a steady stream of those picked up during routine traffic stops by local and state police. Let ICE go after the gangs and where more than a few illegals are known to congregate.
No fuss, no muss....just good law enforcement work.
Combine this with a wall...and we might get a handle on the problem before too long.
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posted on
04/14/2006 7:42:05 AM PDT
by
taxed2death
(A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
To: NormsRevenge
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posted on
04/14/2006 7:57:19 AM PDT
by
varon
(Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
To: NormsRevenge
This should have been encouraged long ago! Ann Coulter
proposed this very thing on O'Reilly, last night.
To: Pan_Yans Wife
Cut off all Federal Funding to those cities. The Solomon Amendment is the precedent: don't follow the law, lose funding. . .
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posted on
04/14/2006 10:42:08 AM PDT
by
Salgak
(Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
To: jocon307; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Victoria Delsoul; Zacs Mom; Lady Jag; ...
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posted on
04/26/2006 11:38:15 AM PDT
by
devolve
((----Kimberly Guilfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
To: opinionator
It's a play on words.
Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. The writer wants you to feel the Biblical overtone so your heart will feel warm and fluffy. Unfortunately he has forgotten about God's penchant for righteousness.
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posted on
04/26/2006 11:43:37 AM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
To: NormsRevenge
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posted on
04/26/2006 11:48:00 AM PDT
by
Dante3
To: devolve
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posted on
04/26/2006 1:32:51 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: devolve
You captured McNoodle so perfectly, hey would you do that to Turbin Durbin?
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posted on
04/26/2006 7:39:27 PM PDT
by
JustPiper
(It is all about Stupidity Stupid!)
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