[timsbella]

I liked his Quest for the Lost Tribes. Timely as the Egyptian antiquities (Hawass) folk are trying to say this never happened.

[massgopguy]

Where's your Moses now see? - Nathan
The only Jew in the movie and he looks miscast.

[DB]

I didn't realize that the number was anywhere near 2,000,000 people.

[Frank_N_Sense]

Only 3500 years ago? I have socks and underwear older.

[Reaganesque]

I saw another documentary recently that said there was some evidence that indicated that the Israelites did in fact cross the Red Sea at a narrow (relatively speaking) point and that underwater cameras revealed formations of rock and coral(?) that could possibly be encrusted chariots. None of it was conclusive evidence but it did seem to make sense. Either way, we shall see which is correct.

[wallcrawlr]

ping for interest

[timsbella]

Thought this might be of interest. He's a Toronto local.

[aruanan]

I've read somewhere that the traditional Mt. Sinai is misidentified and that the real location lies in land controlled by Saudi Arabia. Supposedly the description of the site in the Bible doesn't match the traditional Mt. Sinai but this other location does and has a great deal of archeological evidence but is controlled by Saudi military.

[Tokra]

A lot of this makes sense, except for one thing. I don't understand how a volcanic eruption could kill the first born of the Egyptians. The Nile turning red - yes, the frogs, locusts etc. - yes, but the first born of the Egyptians dying? And not the Hebrews because of lamb blood on the door lintels? A volcanic explanation for that just doesn't make sense.

[Pride in the USA]

This will be an interesting film to watch.

[aruanan]

Dating the Exodus to roughly 1,500 BC, the two-hour film presented and executive-produced by Hollywood director James Cameron and airing Easter Sunday on Discovery Canada — suggests that the great Santorini volcano caused the Ten Plagues that the Bible says were visited upon the Egyptians and which finally persuaded the pharaoh of the day.

Wasn't the Santorini eruption discussed pretty thoroughly in that book Exodus to Arthur by Mike Baille?

[BibChr]

pingtyka

[bert]

.....Moses led an estimated two million Israelite slaves out of pharaonic Egypt.....

Ha....

Although there may have been an Exodus, it was such a minor event it was not mentioned in Egyptian history. The Exodus probably involved a handful of people that crossed the marshes. It took them decades to multiply to the point they could attack and secure a significant piece of realestate.

[XR7]

Jesus said:

He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'
-- Luke 16:41

[hershey]

In the past year or so, archeologists also found the Pharoah's stables. Scoffers of the Exodus had said he couldn't possibly have had that many horses/charioteers, but it turns out he did.

[SunkenCiv]

related:

Moses' Comet
Troubled Times/Discovering Archaeology | 8-1999 | Mike Baillie
Posted on 10/09/2005 7:25:36 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1499609/posts

Biblical Plagues and Parting of Red Sea caused by Volcano
News.telegraph.co.uk | 11/11/02 | John Petre
Posted on 11/11/2002 3:44:06 PM EST by Betty Jane
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/786902/posts

Mount Sinai Was A Volcano In Saudi Arabia, Says Scientist (Exodus)
The Telegraph (UK) | 6-13-2003 | Roger Highfield
Posted on 06/12/2003 9:15:39 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/928064/posts

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

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Quest For The Lost Tribes directed by Simcha Jacobovici DVD+R format

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[SunkenCiv]

PROBLEMS WITH MT. SINAI IN SAUDI ARABIA
Compiled by Brad C. Sparks
http://www.ldolphin.org/sinai.html

[SunkenCiv]

http://www.ldolphin.org/franz1.jpg

[Ancesthntr]

OK, now that this documentary has aired on TV, what does everyone think of it?

For me, there was a lot of distortion of what is written in the Bible, and I cannot agree that the Hebrews were really the Hyksos. The story just eliminates about 100 years of Egyptian history between the Hyksos and the Santorini eruption, and that destroys much of its credibility for me. Additionally, there was no effort made to reconcile the Orthodox Jewish chronology of the Bible with the assumptions made here, which further eroded its credibility. If Moses lived, as the show indicated, some 280 years before Solomon, then that'd be somewhere around 1280 BCE - because King David (Solomon's father) reigned beginning circa 1004 BCE. Even if Moses died in 1280 BCE at age 120, his birth would be some 100 years AFTER the 1500 BCE or so that the documentary postulates for the time of the Exodus or the Santorini eruption (not to mention that the miraculous events of the Exodus only started when Moses was 80.

Some aspects of the program were very well thought out and done, particularly the part about the location of Mt. Sinai. I'm not sure that the posited site is the correct one, but it at least is plausible (and far more so than the site chosen by St. Catherine). I'm still waiting for a better explanation of the whole thing - this was good,

As for the causes of the plagues, I don't see how the use of natural phenomenon means that there was any less of a series of miracles than claimed in the Bible. For those events to have occurred just when the Israelites needed them to occur, and to victimize the Egyptians so much so that the Israelites could leave, is too much of a coincidence to be just random geological/biological events. That the Israelites escaped and no one else did is very telling, as is the fact that the Israelites could leave while the Egyptian couldn't or didn't want to stop them is highly suggestive of a selective application of the plagues...which doesn't occur naturally.