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Carter UFO guru puts faith in crop circles
Worldnetdaily ^ | April 14, 2006 | unknown

Posted on 04/15/2006 4:34:38 AM PDT by ovrtaxt


WND


ALIEN NATION

Carter UFO guru puts
faith in crop circles

Seeks to end Earth's quarantine by more

spiritually evolved 'Off-Planet Cultures'


Posted: April 14, 2006
8:55 p.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Alfred Webre

President Jimmy Carter's former UFO guru, Alfred Webre, is still promoting the quest for extraterrestrials – now suggesting it is a matter of spiritual life and death for humanity.

In his new book, "Exopolitics – Politics, Government and Law in the Universe," he concludes that Earth has been "under quarantine" too long from more spiritually evolved "Off-Planet Cultures" – or OPCs, as they are known in ET circles.

Webre has also devised a new SDI plan – but it has little to do with the Strategic Defense Initiative invented by Carter's successor in the White House. This SDI is the "Star Dreams Initiative."

Webre believes that humanity can help leave a legacy of peace and hope to future generations by taking specific steps to end the self-imposed embargo of the planet.

Webre's views have received the support of prominent individuals besides the former president and peanut farmer from Georgia. Paul Hellyer, former defense minister of Canada, is one fan. Another is Bryan O'Leary, former NASA astronaut.

"Much of this book rings true," writes O'Leary. "Certainly, our civilization cannot go on as we have. We will need all the help we can get to lift ourselves out of tyranny, genocide, and ecocide. So why not reach out toward those who are clearly more wise?"

Webre, who has given exopolitics presentations around the world, will give his next May 6 in British Columbia following the debut of a new version of "Star Dreams," a Robert Nichol's feature film about crop circles.

The controversial documentary explains that there have been almost 11,000 recorded crop circles worldwide since 1980, many of them baffling prominent scientists.

Webre's SDI program was prepared through his work as futurist at Stanford Research Institute and as a result of Carter's interest in the subject after he saw a UFO in 1969.

"The goal of the 1977 project was to fill the knowledge gap on this subject but was terminated because of the political climate at the time," explains Webre.

Webre also says that Robert Nichol's film on crop circles will help prepare people's mindset for what he will be revealing after the film during his presentation.

Nichol's updated documentary includes new interviews with researchers such as an investigative reporter, a Native American artist, and a former NASA consultant. The featured "investigative reporter" is Emmy Award-winning TV producer Linda Moulton Howe. She explains that some crop circles in the U.S. have been worth studying because they show biochemical and biophysical changes that cannot be made by hoaxers using boards and strings.

During his film interview, Native American artist Rod Bearcloud focuses on the spiritual meaning of crop circles. He believes that they are sent to us by the "Star Nation people," known in our western culture as extraterrestrials.

In the film, Richard Hoagland, a frequent guest on the late-night talk-show circuit, claims evidence of an ancient civilization on planet Mars has been concealed by NASA. Hoagland was a former consultant to NASA and a science advisor to Walter Cronkite of CBS News during the historic Apollo Missions to the Moon.

Nichol concludes only a minority of crop circles are hoaxed. He explains that skeptics often ignore the more complex formations with anomalies that defy our current scientific understanding.


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To: TASMANIANRED

I agree. Some are very beautiful.

Though when I contemplate putting some on a stoneware platter . . . I feel a certain hesitation that's hard to describe.


101 posted on 04/15/2006 8:00:54 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: cgbg

Not sure what your point is about ignorance. It's deliberate.

Certainly the puppet masters keep us in ignorance for their own ends.

Some say the ET's insist on it. Some say the ET's chafe about it and will reveal themselves to the world at large in their time.

I figure they are mostly--most of them--are in cahoots with satan setting up the global government. And, that in due course, they will either take on the role of saviors of us from ourselves or--conquers scaring us into the global government--or some races one role and others the other role. Both to coerce folks into the global government for easier tyrannical control.


102 posted on 04/15/2006 8:03:00 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Dustbunny

Haven't reviewed a great many sites. All the better ones I have checked out do trace the history. Some have pics from Middle ages' artworks showing such.


103 posted on 04/15/2006 8:05:42 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Calvin Locke

I'd say taking millions of abductees and unknown numbers of mutilated body parts excised with the person conscious without anesthetic . . .

would be a great deal more violating of such a directive--as well as the treaty they signed during Ike's years--which we later found out they were violating wholesale.

I personally think any noise about a prime directive is largely hogwash or limited to a minority of the ET races. Plenty of them seem quite comfortable being quite terrible to millions of humans. I forget the likely statistics but something over 3 million people are likely to have been abducted according to I think a Harris pole surveying for key factors historically and reliably associated with such--even with people who have no memory of such.


104 posted on 04/15/2006 8:09:04 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: ovrtaxt

Will check out your manifesto. Is it on your FR home page?

I agree that

1. they are eager to neuter Christ's deity, miracles etc.

2. that at least a major portion are demons in bioengineered bodies or in cahoots with demons--probably 99.9% of the races.

3. I do not really believe that ALL UFO CRAFT are materialized demons themselves--the craft--though it is plausible that some may be. I have no guess at those percentages. I think most craft are more or less nuts and bolts--well--seamless constructions which may somehow be 'grown' or poured or some such.

4. I do believe that there are other races of intelligent critters awaiting AS ALL CREATION WAITS--FOR THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD--walking in concert with Jesus Christ, conformed to His image; trained and ready to rule and reign with him setting all Creation to rights in justice and love. I assume that such other races are virtually all or totally all as polluted with sin as we are given that it appears Biblically that all Creation was so polluted with Adam's fall--at least all Creation in this time/space dimension known as our multiverse.

But a lot of such is held loosely until God confirms it one way or another . . . perhaps as future events unfold.


105 posted on 04/15/2006 8:15:56 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Psycho_Bunny; All
There simply is no objective proof. Period.

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Not so, Bunny:

The following excerpts are from Chapter 8 (WHAT SCIENTISTS SAY) of MYSTERIOUS LIGHTS AND CROP CIRCLES by Linda Moulton Howe. pp 248-281. All Rights Reserved.

Linda is a first class researcher and journalist and has paid dearly for being so. She doesn't accept anything less than multiple verifiable sources before publishing such stuff.

The whole book is well worth reading. The following are just some representative excerpts about the scientifically proven distinctions between authentic crop circles vs others and vs non crop-circle crop areas and crops.

-------

"Biophysicist W. C. Levengood would agree with Frank Laumen that the energies which produce crop formations come from above. The formation that convinced him was Cherhill 1993, or at least the nearby field where Peter Sorensen dragged a magnet through a circle. The soil and wheat debris attracted to the magnet were covered with a thin coating of iron oxide. He already knew that microwave frequencies were involved because his laboratory tests with microwaves simulated the anomalies of enlarged cell wall pits, lengthened and reoriented growth nodes and expulsion cavities. All of these biophysical effects were caused by sudden and rapid heating of cytoplasmic constituents and water in the nodes and much more efficiently than soup is heated in a microwave oven."

"He also suspected plasmas of positively charged ions and negatively charged electrons were the transport mechanisms for the microwaves and other complex electronic energies. Since the iron glaze was distributed like spray paint over the soil and plants, Levengood reasoned that the iron was in a liquid or semi-liquid state rotating inside a spinning plasma before it was deposited by centrifugal force in most cases."

"Many formations later, Levengood has demonstrated in his research reports that high concentrations of melted iron beads are often distributed in formation soils according to the laws of centrifugal force and the empiracl data have been shown to follow the centrifugal force theory with correlation coefficients > 0.9."

"Occasionally crop formation sare not spiraled. The crop is laid straight out radially like spokes in a bicycle wheel. In those formations, unusual concentrations of iron particles have been found in the center where energies apparently focused straight downward. An example is Marion, New York in 1997 discussed in Chapter 3."

"By the summer of 2000, Levengood had studied plants from at least three hundred formations in Israel, Australia, Canada, the United States, England and Holland. He found a repeateing pattern of biochemical and biophysical changes in formation plants and magnetic anomalies in soils . . . "

"He has described his research in scholarly papers published by the international plant physiology journal, Physiologica Plantarum, and the American Journal of Scientific Exploration. So far, no one has refuted his hypothesis that spinning plasma vortices containing microwaves, magnetic fields and electric fields produced by charge separation in plasma form the complex energy systems that create the crop formations. . . . "

"In a 1995 paper entitled 'Semi-Molten Meteoric Iron Associated with A Crop Formation' published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration (Vol 9, No. 2, Pages 191-199), Levengood and his research colleague, John Burke wrote, 'Out of a four year investigation of plant tissues taken from over eighty crop formations, located within five countries, we report data from a single sample set which indicates a 'close encounter,' between the complex forces producing these flattened, circular type formations and meteoric material from the atmosphere."

"'Both soil chunks and plant tissue taken from specific regions within a 1993 wheat crop formation in Cherhill, Wiltshire, England, exhibited a high degree of magnetic susceptibility which originated within adherent coatings consisting of the comingled iron oxides, hematite (Fe2O3) and magnetite (Fe3O4) fused into a heterogeneous mass, and having the properties of a 'magnetic glaze.' The makeup of this material appears to be of meteoric origin and apparently impacted the ground while in the semi-molten state. Presence of meteoric material adhering to both soil and plant tissues casts considerable doubt on this being an artificially prepared or 'hoaxed' formation."

------------ There's tons more scientific data in the chapter. But I'm a bit tired of typing.

I hope you can see that your assumptions about such have been flawed.

106 posted on 04/15/2006 9:12:43 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: ovrtaxt

I scanned a good portion of your home page on FR. I share a lot of similar views. I may have viewed half to 3/4th of it.


107 posted on 04/15/2006 9:14:55 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Quix
I've read one of John Mack's books. Abductions? I'm more inclined to go with physiological explanations and say the
pineal gland of claimants went in to overdrive for what ever reason(s), inducing false memories.

I don't believe I've read about human mutilations by ET abductors. But I'd attribute them as self-mutilation
while "sleep walking" under the influence of precious bodily glandular secretions.

108 posted on 04/15/2006 9:32:49 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Additional excerpts per above ref:

p 250

"The wheat leaf at Cherhill was not damaged by this molten iron deposit because of the Liendenfrost effect. Suddenly heated leaves can release steam through their stomata that creates a protective layer between the leaf and whatever warm substance touches them. In this case, it was the deposit of semi-molten meteoric iron particles."

. . .

p. 258: "'In fact,' Levengood added, 'in laboratory experimentation, we have successfully simulated the growth enhancement effects. John and I have found that when there is a drought, the plants grown from our experimental seeds don't wilt as much or as fast. The plants are resistent to drought. They can also last longer without light. The biochemistry of the plants has been changed to a much higher efficiency level.'"

p. 259
" . . . We have found through chemical tests at outside laboratories that our plants have much higher levels of antioxidants. . . . "

". . . When the pulsing electric energies hit the seeds, or the plasma itself interacts with the plants, free radicals are produced that are destructive. But the plants try to counter the free radicals by producing more antioxidants. To produce antioxidants in reaction to the tremendous pulse of free radicals during the crop formation creation goes way back to my studies of ion transport in stems of plants and the effect of electric fields on them. Those are my redox tests of plant cell metabolism. What we've found is new stuff. You can't go to text books to find this."

"Another interesting discovery we've made is that if seeds that have been hit by free radicals are planted right away, they are practically dead. But if we wait several months, the plants end up more vigorous."

. . .

"In a recent grass formation discovered in Madera, California on March 27, 2000, Levengood performed his redox tests of plant metabolism in grass from the center of a circle and grass sampled from the formation's edge."

"The redox test came out about what I expected," Levengood said. "The controls had the normal level of respiration and the other two from the formation were anomalous. After those tests, I put all the plants back in a tight box, completely dark, for a week. After eight days, I decided I didn't need them for any more work and opened the box to throw them out. I could not believe what I was looking at. The control plants were yellow and brown, dying as you would expect. But the formation plants were still green!"

There simply is no objective proof. Period.

-------

Not so, Bunny:

The following excerpts are from Chapter 8 (WHAT SCIENTISTS SAY) of MYSTERIOUS LIGHTS AND CROP CIRCLES by Linda Moulton Howe. pp 248-281. All Rights Reserved.

Linda is a first class researcher and journalist and has paid dearly for being so. She doesn't accept anything less than multiple verifiable sources before publishing such stuff.

The whole book is well worth reading. The following are just some representative excerpts about the scientifically proven distinctions between authentic crop circles vs others and vs non crop-circle crop areas and crops.

-------

"Biophysicist W. C. Levengood would agree with Frank Laumen that the energies which produce crop formations come from above. The formation that convinced him was Cherhill 1993, or at least the nearby field where Peter Sorensen dragged a magnet through a circle. The soil and wheat debris attracted to the magnet were covered with a thin coating of iron oxide. He already knew that microwave frequencies were involved because his laboratory tests with microwaves simulated the anomalies of enlarged cell wall pits, lengthened and reoriented growth nodes and expulsion cavities. All of these biophysical effects were caused by sudden and rapid heating of cytoplasmic constituents and water in the nodes and much more efficiently than soup is heated in a microwave oven."

"He also suspected plasmas of positively charged ions and negatively charged electrons were the transport mechanisms for the microwaves and other complex electronic energies. Since the iron glaze was distributed like spray paint over the soil and plants, Levengood reasoned that the iron was in a liquid or semi-liquid state rotating inside a spinning plasma before it was deposited by centrifugal force in most cases."

"Many formations later, Levengood has demonstrated in his research reports that high concentrations of melted iron beads are often distributed in formation soils according to the laws of centrifugal force and the empiracl data have been shown to follow the centrifugal force theory with correlation coefficients > 0.9."

"Occasionally crop formation sare not spiraled. The crop is laid straight out radially like spokes in a bicycle wheel. In those formations, unusual concentrations of iron particles have been found in the center where energies apparently focused straight downward. An example is Marion, New York in 1997 discussed in Chapter 3."

"By the summer of 2000, Levengood had studied plants from at least three hundred formations in Israel, Australia, Canada, the United States, England and Holland. He found a repeateing pattern of biochemical and biophysical changes in formation plants and magnetic anomalies in soils . . . "

"He has described his research in scholarly papers published by the international plant physiology journal, Physiologica Plantarum, and the American Journal of Scientific Exploration. So far, no one has refuted his hypothesis that spinning plasma vortices containing microwaves, magnetic fields and electric fields produced by charge separation in plasma form the complex energy systems that create the crop formations. . . . "

"In a 1995 paper entitled 'Semi-Molten Meteoric Iron Associated with A Crop Formation' published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration (Vol 9, No. 2, Pages 191-199), Levengood and his research colleague, John Burke wrote, 'Out of a four year investigation of plant tissues taken from over eighty crop formations, located within five countries, we report data from a single sample set which indicates a 'close encounter,' between the complex forces producing these flattened, circular type formations and meteoric material from the atmosphere."

"'Both soil chunks and plant tissue taken from specific regions within a 1993 wheat crop formation in Cherhill, Wiltshire, England, exhibited a high degree of magnetic susceptibility which originated within adherent coatings consisting of the comingled iron oxides, hematite (Fe2O3) and magnetite (Fe3O4) fused into a heterogeneous mass, and having the properties of a 'magnetic glaze.' The makeup of this material appears to be of meteoric origin and apparently impacted the ground while in the semi-molten state. Presence of meteoric material adhering to both soil and plant tissues casts considerable doubt on this being an artificially prepared or 'hoaxed' formation."

------------ There's tons more scientific data in the chapter. But I'm a bit tired of typing.

I hope you can see that your assumptions about such have been flawed.

109 posted on 04/15/2006 9:42:32 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Calvin Locke

Stay tuned. Am trying to find some pics . . . your assumptions about human mutilations are exceedingly, extremely, galactically inadequate to explain what's happening either with animals or humans. And the same thing is happening with humans.

And, Linda's life was threatened by government officials for her linking even just the cattle mutilations with UFO's. They are hyper sensitive about the human mutilations.

But, stay tuned, if the pics still available, it will be clearly absolutely the furthest thing from what you postulate that you could imagine.

WARNING, THE PICS ARE GRUESOME.


110 posted on 04/15/2006 9:50:09 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Calvin Locke

I don't believe I've read about human mutilations by ET abductors. But I'd attribute them as self-mutilation
while "sleep walking" under the influence of precious bodily glandular secretions.




PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, CALVIN, PLEASE TELL US HOW THE ABOVE COULD--POSSIBLY COULD--HAVE BEEN DONE by the individual(s) concerned as you postulated above.

There are better pics of this same case showing more vividly the removed eye; the removed half jaw; the removed/cored rectum etc.

In most cases there's not a single drop of blood left. Evidently this fellow had minute amounts left around some of the wounds.

I'm eager to read how you believe this fellow self-mutilated to this degree.

Am not going to try and post the pics hereon. They are just too gruesome.

You can find them at:

http://www.crowdedskies.com/human_mutilations.htm

Where the following text is excerpted from:

From 1960 onward, rumors began to be surface about findings of mutilated human corpses, these corpses followed the disturbing pattern and traits of the cattle mutilations that have spread across the world since the 1970's.

This matter, generally considered to be of very bad taste, surfaced again in 1988 when the Skywatch International open list published a short text purported to be based on a secret report relating the death of an Air Force Sgt (E-6) by the name Jonathan P. Louette, abducted at the White Sands missile test range in March of 1976.

Jonathan Louette who was serving at the White Sands Proving Ground in New Mexico, a vast remote base where the latest US technology is tested. There are many stories linking White Sands to alien contact and captured alien craft.

The Sergeant and a senior officer were detailed to travel several miles down the missile range in a military vehicle to find and recover any debris from spent missiles. At one point they left their vehicle to scout the desert. They separated in order to cover a wider area of the sand dunes more quickly. Suddenly the officer heard screams in the area of the dunes where the sergeant was searching. He ran towards the noise thinking that a rattlesnake had bitten the sergeant and as he reached the top of the dune, he saw a disc shaped craft hovering low above the ground. A long tentacle coming from the underside of the craft was wrapped around the sergeant. It dragged the screaming man into the craft and then shot away at great speed.

The officer returned to base in a state of shock. When he reported what had happened he was not believed and was arrested for murder. An immediate search of the area failed to find any sign of the sergeant. Three days later Sergeant Louette's mutilated body was found twenty miles down the range. The mutilations were clinical and precise and involved the removal of the genitals, the rectum and the eyes. Typically there was no blood on the body, but the cardiovascular organs had not collapsed. The officer was released without charge. Although the story was leaked out by people involved in the incident, the military refused to confirm or deny that such an incident had taken place.

Although many strange stories have come out of the Vietnam conflict, there can be none stranger than that reported at a UFO Conference in Las Vegas in 1989 by an ex United States Air Force man who was serving as a photographer in Vietnam in the late sixties. He was involved in a mission to investigate the mysterious crash of a B-52 bomber, and was air lifted by helicopter into the jungle where the plane had gone down. The first surprise was to find the plane intact, and no sign of a crash landing: it was if the plane had been air lifted and placed into position. Inside the cabin, though was a greater shock. The four-man crew were still strapped into their seats, but all had been mutilated with the typical clean-cut wounds that we see in the animal mutilations. After inspecting the plane and photographing both it and the occupants, the investigation team was ordered to burn the plane and the occupants.

As with animal mutilations the human mutilations appear to be happening globally. The best evidence to date has come from Brazil with some convincing if gruesome photographs of a human mutilation, which have been obtained from, police files. Although authorities the world over appear to be united in their desire to keep the whole thing covered up, not all are as sophisticated as the Americans and British, and fortunately for the whole field of research into UFO-related deaths and mutilations, these Brazilian pictures have found their way into the public domain. The mutilated body of a man was found near the Guarapiranga Reservoir in Brazil on 29th. September 1988 and as a matter of course photographs were taken of the corpse. A police technician, Sergio Rubens, later gave copies of these photographs to his cousin, Dr Goes Rubins, who he thought would be interested, in the way the corpse had been mutilated. Appreciating at least partly the significance of the pictures, Dr Rubens showed them to a friend, who he knew was interested in ufology. She immediately recognized the similarity of the wounds to those she has seen in animal mutilations.

When the police were approached for more information, the head of the investigation, Dr Cuenca, surprisingly opened his files: an incredible stroke of luck not just for the original investigators, but for all of us battling to get this subject into the open. Among the papers in the file was the original autopsy report, written by forensic pathologists who had no previous knowledge of mutilations. There were many striking observations.

1. Although the victim had been dead for forty-eight to seventy-two hours there was no sign of being eaten by animals or starting to rot, as would be expected.

2. There was no smell.

3. Bleeding from the wounds had been minimal.

4. The lips and flesh from the face had been cut away.

5. The eyes, ears and tongue had been removed.

6. Neat round holes, one to one and a half inches in diameter, had been made on the shoulders arms and head, stomach and anus and tissue and muscle had been extracted. The holes had not been made by bullets.

7. The major organs within the chest cavity had been removed, a perfect small hole having been made through which extensive digestive organs had been extracted.

8. The scrotum, but not the penis had been removed, and all pubic hair had disappeared.

9. The rectum had been cored out. Despite the devastating mutilations, there was no sign that the victim had been bound or had struggled in any way

When the photographs were first circulated they caused a great stir among serious UFO researchers. It will of course take more than a set of horrific photographs from Brazil to make the authorities open up about the extent to which human bodies are being discovered in a mutilated state, but for those of us who already know a great deal of what is going on, the photographs are an important confirmation. If only there were other people prepared to leak information on this subject, I suspect we would be in for a shock.


111 posted on 04/15/2006 10:00:23 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Quix

Fascinating . . . from precisely the moment I began to search DogPile.com for human mutilation pics and trying to post such here . . . my computer freezed--cursor--everything. Have been having spyware software search and clean fairly constantly. Dogpile infects horribly these days . . .

don't know if there's a connection or what but my computer tends to freeze for 15-45 seconds with maybe 5 seconds or so of usefulness. This is a longer useful period. Not sure why.

Hasn't been behaving this way for a long time.


112 posted on 04/15/2006 10:14:39 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Quix

freezed = froze

I'm tired. I should go to bed! LOL.


113 posted on 04/15/2006 10:17:08 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Quix

Thankfully, computer is back to normal. Seemingly.


114 posted on 04/15/2006 10:24:47 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: Quix

Thanks. Have heard of and seen on TV various pictures of them but never a mention of when they were first noticed or reported on.


115 posted on 04/16/2006 3:17:59 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: Quix

No, it's in post 99.


116 posted on 04/16/2006 5:58:11 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: ovrtaxt

If you're asking if I believe that one of satan's main goals is to pollute God's redemptive bloodline; human bloodline in mankind--yes, I agree.

I do think that's a huge part of what the hybrid breeding program is about.

I'm not sure quite what the purpose is other than sand in God's eyes but it may be that there's some potential for evil spiritual potency from doing such.


117 posted on 04/16/2006 7:41:28 AM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: ovrtaxt
Hey . . . this guy was a believer . . .
118 posted on 04/16/2006 8:09:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Quix

And I'm certain he's just sooo pleased that you're using the site to peddle moronic UFO theories.


119 posted on 04/16/2006 8:22:03 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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To: RightWingAtheist; ovrtaxt; Las Vegas Dave; All

Oh, Jim is a lot like Jesus in those regards. I think he's tolerant of a lot of things he doesn't prefer. Though DU is pretty high on his 'not tolerate' list--rather understandably.

But evidently us morons are in desperate need of your enlightened pedagogical expertise. Could you please point out rather specifically which of the scientific findings in which of the scientific journals mentioned in

Post #106

do you find moronic and why?


120 posted on 04/16/2006 12:34:04 PM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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