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If Rumsfeld's so bad, why didn't generals resign?
Chicago Sun Times ^ | April 17, 2006 | BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB

Posted on 04/17/2006 5:48:39 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

There is a great furor over whether the opinions of a number of retired high-ranking officers should tip the balance in the ongoing debate over the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

But the question really isn't whether Rumsfeld should resign. He has already resigned several times and had President Bush tear up his letters of resignation. He clearly is taking responsibility for his actions on a continuing basis.

But now that a galaxy of flag officers are raining down on Rumsfeld demanding his resignation, no one seems to have bothered to ask which, if any, of these generals had ever submitted his own resignation in protest against the conduct of the Iraq war, or the bumpy transition we are locked in now. The demands for Rumsfeld's resignation began with Gen. Anthony Zinni.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: generals; hypocrites; hypocrits; mmqbs; moneymoneymoney; rumsfeld; thomaslipscomb; whiners
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Not a single one of these people offered their own resignation over these supposedly evil policies. Every single one of them waited until they got their pampered retirements.
1 posted on 04/17/2006 5:48:43 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM
If i remember correctly, Zinni was in charge in Iraq when things looked really bad. Was it not his fault?
2 posted on 04/17/2006 5:51:20 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: .cnI redruM; Rummyfan; DevSix
Marine LtGen Newbold did resign, in essence, although he didn't speak out against Rummy when doing so. He had been rumored as possible Commandant of the Marine Corps material, but decided to retire rather than get his fourth star (citing fatigue and family concerns, IIRC).

And I'm not arguing the gist of the article. Not at all. Merely pointing out one exception I happen to know about.

Thank God for Rummy!

Donald Rumsfeld should only resign to accept the GOP nomination for President of the United States!

3 posted on 04/17/2006 5:52:43 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: fireforeffect

He certainly bore a lot more of the responsibility than he has been willing to own up to.


4 posted on 04/17/2006 5:53:00 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Watching the Left turn on Senator McCain amuses me somehow....)
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To: Coop
In that case, I like Gen NewBold a lot more than the others. He's put his money where his mouth is.
5 posted on 04/17/2006 5:53:53 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Watching the Left turn on Senator McCain amuses me somehow....)
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To: .cnI redruM

I think he's an armchair quarterbacking putz. But to each his own! :-)


6 posted on 04/17/2006 5:54:50 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: .cnI redruM

You don't go against your superiors at time of war, or damage the morale of our troops.
Shame on the Generals!


7 posted on 04/17/2006 5:55:14 AM PDT by stopem (America is not a Cash Cow!)
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To: Coop

Further, people that worked with Newbold speculated it was because he did not like Rummy's management style (too hands on for his liking). Newbold at the time said he didn't want to put his family through yet another move, which would basically be a guarentee with the 4th star.


8 posted on 04/17/2006 5:58:42 AM PDT by elc
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To: .cnI redruM
Well said!

And you make Brit Hume's point.

What they're complaining about took place 3 or 4 years ago...

...Why didn't they complain then???

9 posted on 04/17/2006 6:00:41 AM PDT by Guenevere
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You don't go against your superiors at time of war, or damage the morale of our troops. Shame on the Generals!

That's been my thoughts all along. The only people these generals are hurting are the military men and women they are supposed to care about. I am appalled at their willingness to hurt the war effort and stab our President and Commander in Chief in the back.

I hope this backfires and that they'll retire with a traitorous lable on their military careers by their peers and the majority of Americans.

10 posted on 04/17/2006 6:03:47 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: Coop

"Marine LtGen Newbold did resign, in essence, although he didn't speak out against Rummy when doing so. He had been rumored as possible Commandant of the Marine Corps material, but decided to retire rather than get his fourth star (citing fatigue and family concerns, IIRC)."

Rumored? There are lots of rumors. Read my tagline.


11 posted on 04/17/2006 6:04:46 AM PDT by rightazrain (Link me to some proof so I can put my rumor to rest.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Excellent counterpoint to the handful of generals bashing Rummy. Touche'. End of discussion. Or as Archie Bunker might have said: "case closed".
12 posted on 04/17/2006 6:08:06 AM PDT by manwiththehands (I'm a single issue voter this year: illegal immigration.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Except for Zinni who retired before 9-11 and Riggs who was forced out, they did resign. They also retired but in effect they resigned.


13 posted on 04/17/2006 6:10:11 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Guenevere

It's a congressional election year, they likely have been swayed by the DNC to speak out. I agree that if they had such deep concerns, they should have resigned then, showing some spine.


14 posted on 04/17/2006 6:13:06 AM PDT by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: Guenevere
What they're complaining about took place 3 or 4 years ago... ...Why didn't they complain then???

Because going public with dirty laundry while you're still a general would probably have ramifications

15 posted on 04/17/2006 6:21:55 AM PDT by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: leadpenny

No, retiring is not the same as resigning.


16 posted on 04/17/2006 6:22:20 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Watching the Left turn on Senator McCain amuses me somehow....)
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To: Go Gordon

>>>>Because going public with dirty laundry while you're still a general would probably have ramifications

Like what? Being made to resign?


17 posted on 04/17/2006 6:23:06 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Watching the Left turn on Senator McCain amuses me somehow....)
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To: Coop

General Matthew Ridgeway retired two months before his term was up because he was unable to agree with the Eisenhower administration on the proper size of the U.S. Army. He wanted a big army fueled by the draft; Ike and his sec of defence Charlies Wilson wanted a smaller one (800,000 by the way!). He even got his book out a couple of years later, explaining his views. Not incidentally, twenty years later General Ridgeway was saying that the volunteer army would never work. We, of course, have the case of General MacArthur. The predecessors of the same Democrats who defended Truman on the basis of the principle of civilian supremacy over the military--a cornerstone of our constitutional system, are now put in the position that the Republicans were in 1951, which is to criticize the policy and applauid the servive of the generals without acknowledging the right of the military to determine public policy.


18 posted on 04/17/2006 6:23:21 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: .cnI redruM

Good letter. One quibble: I wouldn't call six retired generals "a galaxy". They're more like a constellation. Let's call them "The Big Dipper."


19 posted on 04/17/2006 6:24:24 AM PDT by wizardoz
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To: .cnI redruM
Like what? Being made to resign?

I have heard of threats (no, I have no proof) regarding pensions. Whether they could be pulled off is another story, but at the general/flag officer level that's a significant amount of money/privileges.

20 posted on 04/17/2006 6:25:01 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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