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The General's Revolt (Pat Buchanan finally makes sense.)
Townhall ^ | April 21, 2006 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 04/21/2006 8:58:43 AM PDT by no dems

In just two weeks, six retired U.S. Marine and Army generals have denounced the Pentagon planning for the war in Iraq and called for the resignation or firing of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, who travels often to Iraq and supports the war, says that the generals mirror the views of 75 percent of the officers in the field, and probably more.

This is not a Cindy Sheehan moment.

This is a vote of no confidence in the leadership of the U.S. armed forces by senior officers once responsible for carrying out the orders of that leadership. It is hard to recall a situation in history where retired U.S. Army and Marine Corps generals, almost all of whom had major commands in a war yet underway, denounced the civilian leadership and called on the president to fire his secretary for war.

As those generals must be aware, their revolt cannot but send a message to friend and enemy alike that the U.S. high command is deeply divided, that U.S. policy is floundering, that the loss of Iraq impends if the civilian leadership at the Pentagon is not changed.

The generals have sent an unmistakable message to Commander in Chief George W. Bush: Get rid of Rumsfeld, or you will lose the war. Columnist Ignatius makes that precise point:

"Rumsfeld should resign because the administration is losing the war on the home front. As bad as things are in Baghdad, America won't be defeated there militarily. But it may be forced into a hasty and chaotic retreat by mount- ing domestic opposition to its policy. Much of the American public has simply stopped believing the administration's arguments about Iraq, and Rumsfeld is a symbol of that credibility gap. He is a spent force ..."

With the exception of Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, the former head of Central Command who opposed the Bush-Rumsfeld rush to war, the other generals did not publicly protest until secure in retirement. Nevertheless, they bring imposing credentials to their charges against the defense secretary.

Major Gen. Paul Eaton, first of the five rebels to speak out, was in charge of training Iraqi forces until 2004. He blames Rumsfeld for complicating the U.S. mission by alienating our NATO allies.

Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold, director of operations for the Joint Chiefs up to the eve of war, charges Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith with a "casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions – or bury the results."

Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who commanded the Army's 1st Division in Iraq, charges that Rumsfeld does not seek nor does he accept the counsel of field commanders. Maj. Gen. John Riggs echoes Batiste. This directly contradicts what President Bush has told the nation.

Maj. Gen. Charles J. Swannack, former field commander of the 82nd Airborne, believes we can create a stable government in Iraq, but says Rumsfeld has mismanaged the war.

As of Good Friday, the Generals' Revolt has created a crisis for President Bush. If he stands by Rumsfeld, he will have taken his stand against generals whose credibility today is higher than his own.

But if he bows to the Generals' Revolt and dismisses Rumsfeld, the generals will have effected a Pentagon putsch. An alumni association of retired generals will have dethroned civilian leadership and forced the commander in chief to fire the architect of a war upon which not only Bush's place in history depends, but the U.S. position in the Middle East and the world. The commander in chief will have been emasculated by retired generals. The stakes could scarcely be higher.

Whatever one thinks of the Iraq war, dismissal of Rumsfeld in response to a clamor created by ex-generals would mark Bush as a weak if not fatally compromised president. He will have capitulated to a generals' coup. Will he then have to clear Rumsfeld's successor with them?

Bush will begin to look like Czar Nicholas in 1916.

And there is an unstated message of the Generals' Revolt. If Iraq collapses in chaos and sectarian war, and is perceived as another U.S. defeat, they are saying: We are not going to carry the can. The first volley in a "Who Lost Iraq?" war of recriminations has been fired.

In 1951, Gen. MacArthur, the U.S. commander in Korea, defied Harry Truman by responding to a request from GOP House leader Joe Martin to describe his situation. MacArthur said the White House had tied his hands in fighting the war.

Though MacArthur spoke the truth and the no-win war in Korea would kill Truman's presidency, the general was fired. But MacArthur was right to speak the truth about the war his soldiers were being forced to fight, a war against a far more numerous enemy who enjoyed a privileged sanctuary above the Yalu river, thanks to Harry Truman.

In the last analysis, the Generals' Revolt is not just against Rumsfeld, but is aimed at the man who appointed him and has stood by him for three years of a guerrilla war the Pentagon did not predict or expect.


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To: r9etb
Heh. Pat forgot to add that the re-enlistment rate is at record levels in combat units because they are all eager to continue fighting for a losing cause.

Pat belongs on the same gallows as the hate America-left.

21 posted on 04/21/2006 9:13:31 AM PDT by pierrem15
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To: no dems
Nope. Pat is wrong yet again.

Golda Meir had the same situation with Moshe Dayan and she said something to the effect that if she fires Dayan their enemies will look on it as a victory. Besides Rummy is an excellent Sec'y of Defense.

22 posted on 04/21/2006 9:14:57 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: no dems
Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold, director of operations for the Joint Chiefs up to the eve of war, charges Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith with a "casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions – or bury the results."

DING DING DING, yup, this is the work of Buchanan. Hahahahahaha.

23 posted on 04/21/2006 9:15:26 AM PDT by M203M4 (BEEEEEG gubermint to the rescue; or "how the nanny state ruins everything")
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To: no dems
Pat shops for too many of his ideas at "LibMart".
24 posted on 04/21/2006 9:15:28 AM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "Hollywood is the gold cap on a tooth that should have been pulled out years ago.")
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To: no dems

As an ex Buchanan fan, 3 or 4 years ago I was wondering what he would do to regain his place in the sun, since he had become something similar to an Ariana Huffington.

I notice that he is every where on the television now, so he clearly learned how to ingratiate him self to the left. As long as he remains useful to the MSM he will have the attention he so clearly craves.


25 posted on 04/21/2006 9:16:06 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: no dems

"Rumsfeld should resign because the administration is losing the war on the home front..."

No. Political Correctness (PC), sensitivity, diversity and all other actions that mean WEAKNESS are losing the war.

No matter who's in charge, these weaknesses will lose the war just like they have since WWII.


26 posted on 04/21/2006 9:16:10 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Yet retention remains high especially among those who have deployed to Iraq. Hmmm...


27 posted on 04/21/2006 9:17:00 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Cicero
Clinton warned a group of retiring generals (who retired because they were disgusted with him) that he would confiscate their retirement pay unless they kept quiet about why they retired.

That is pure, unadulterated, BS. The President cannot confiscate military retirement pay.

28 posted on 04/21/2006 9:17:25 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: no dems

The no-win war in Korea?

Yah, I forgot how badly we lost that.

Oh, wait...no we didn't.


29 posted on 04/21/2006 9:17:40 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: no dems
Gcochran - posting to this forum - predicted all of this back in 2003, in the run-up to the war. He felt that the Muslim threat was small and could be contained with inspections and sanctions, that no WMD would be found and the Administration knew it, and that Rumsfeld was an arrogant, abrasive know-it-all who would alienate everyone.

I thought he was wrong about the magnitude of the threat and still hope he was wrong about everything else as well. I expect disagreement when the stakes are so high and the outcome unclear. It's up to the President to find the right course. That's what he was elected to do.

31 posted on 04/21/2006 9:19:28 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: 1rudeboy; Dog Gone; no dems; All
It’s all over the place, including (no surprise) Raimondo’s dump.
32 posted on 04/21/2006 9:19:30 AM PDT by dighton
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To: 1rudeboy; no dems

Thanks for the link. no dems, you must provide a link to the article. Otherwise, it is subject to being pulled entirely.


33 posted on 04/21/2006 9:20:02 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: sinkspur

What, are you insinuating Buchannan is anti-semetic?

What would make you think that?

I mean, there is the fact that he's against Israel every single time there is a conflict in the region, even though they are the only democracy in the area, and that he blames Jews for everything that he deems wrong with America...

But other then that, no anti-semitism here!


35 posted on 04/21/2006 9:21:07 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Cicero
These generals have no business drawing military retirement pay, probably finding cushy civilian jobs as figureheads, and stabbing the president in the back at the same time.

I don't really care about the generals retirement pay, I want to know whether there is any merit to what they are saying. If this problem turns out to be real the reprocussions are going to be much hotter then the heated air put out by a handfull of retired officers. The hand wringing over Abu Garib and Guantanimo, and the fact that Sadr is still sucking in air, make it pretty clear that we are fighting an overly PC war. Perhaps that can work this time around; but if not, then the administration should turn iraq over to a single officer and order him to settle Iraq within 360 days - even if he has to kill every living thing in that country.

The original objective had nothing to do with nation building. We needed to go into Iraq to deprive radical Islamic terrorist of physical, technical, and monetary support flowing to them from Iraq. That is what we should be focused on; and, we should be clear that that can be done with Iraqis or without them.
36 posted on 04/21/2006 9:21:58 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: zbigreddogz

If we'd won Korea, Kim Jong-Il wouldn't be so ronery.


37 posted on 04/21/2006 9:22:00 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: dighton

Ack! You're probably going to get suspended for a week for mentioning that hellhole.


38 posted on 04/21/2006 9:22:36 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: liberallarry

Victor Davis Hanson: Globalization, Ancient and Modern
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1618383/posts

Not sure why I bother, you won't comprehend the big picture if it hits you in the face.


39 posted on 04/21/2006 9:26:42 AM PDT by listenhillary (The original Contract with America - The U.S. Constitution)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
He ronery for obvious reason.
40 posted on 04/21/2006 9:26:43 AM PDT by dighton
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