Posted on 04/22/2006 8:10:03 AM PDT by Coop
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Thanks for the ping. I've been trying to keep up with all these posts and sending them on to some of my e-mail friends including some in the area.
Thank you very much for spreading the word.
Please keep the pressure on Hilton. And if our pressure does not cause Hilton to back down, then at least this thread shows a way we can support the troops and Fran O'Brien's if you're so inclined. Thank you.
Personally, I wish it was breaking news every 15 minutes on all networks until it is settled. You know, sorta like the so-called leaking of a known CIA agent or the accidental shooting of a companion on a hunting trip. IMO this is a lot more outrageous and dare I say criminal.
I don't know about criminal. I don't see anything illegal about it (although a lawyer I ain't), but it's terrible PR and quite cold-hearted.
Well, I thought all business establishments had to have easy access for the handicapped. If not what is the ADA all about? I understood it was the owner's responsibility to make the restaurant accessable to the handicapped by law, which has been in effect for at least 10 or 15 years now. Maybe CBoldt could help us, I think he is a lawyer.
Audio from the first panel is up at http://www.op-for.com
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We've re-arranged dinner plans this evening, so we're now going to dine at Fran O'Brien's. With our two children (ages 2 and 4). :-} I hope to speak with Hal or Marty, and I also plan to pay a personal visit upstairs.
Well, that proves you are a braver man than I. Dining out with a two-year old is scary.
Barriers must be removed in an existing business if such removal is readily achievable. ADA complaints are handled by the US Department of Justice.
Information can be found at www.usdoj.gov/crt.ada
Any alterations and/or additions would trigger the construction requirements found in the ADAAG ( American with Disabilities Act Arch. Guidelines).
Changes to a primary function area trigger certain accessibility upgrades/ modifications. Such modifications are required up to the point they become disproportianate to the overall improvements (20-%).
I can not see where the Hilton can argue that they are not able to readily achieve barrier removal and provide access for the handicapped.
Thanks for the info. I guess it all comes down to the bottom line for Hilton. They must have a way to get supplies and stuff down there, maybe an upgrade is all that is needed and Hilton doesn't want to fork over the cash. But I strongly suspect from what I've read that they just want the establishment closed and off their premises.
Yeah, this isn't exactly McDonald's. I have a feeling we'll end up being seated by the kitchen. :-)
That's where they generally sat my family when my boy was two.
Except it was in the alley behind the kitchen.
:-) If the reports are true, sounds like Hilton security is patrolling that area pretty heavily. So maybe we'll swing a seat inside.
Good luck, Coop! The responses I've received from my complaints to Hilton all state it has nothing to do with the Veterans dinners but no other explanation is forthcoming. It sounds like Buzz Patterson got a better explanation from Koster in the article you posted.
Enjoy your dinner and pass along my thanks to those guys for their efforts to accomadate our heroes every Friday night. I'll keep sending those emails of complaint...
Forgot to tell you I got a nice email from the hotel management the other day...saying that they were working on something to continue the dinner.
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