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To: TWohlford

I imagine these days you can get a BS and never have to even code a binary sort.


63 posted on 04/23/2006 8:46:07 AM PDT by djf (Bedtime story: Once upon a time, they snuck on the boat and threw the tea over. In a land far away..)
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To: djf

It's worse than that, most never have to take a basic logic course as a prereq to any other courses. I'm a military retiree who met the challenge of "you're military, you don't know anything", took a $28,000 income cut when I retired and took my first job. I proved to them that I was proficient in the latest technology and after a little over nine years they decided that the H1Bs and young guys were better suited than me and my recent masters in computer information systems. They laid off a large contingent of people in all of the business units and all were older employees, a lot of whom who had been there 20+ years and were the backbone of their areas. I beat them to the door and took a job with another $20,000 pay cut to administer an online program for a local university. I moved from that job to full time faculty teaching C++, web programming, database and other courses. The student's I have now, even in the graduate courses are woefully lacking in logic and hard tech skills because everyone is going to become a project manager. If I had to hit the job market again today at 55 it would be a crapshoot. I know what is out there and the idiots who do the hiring don't have it in their tiny little brains that an older employee might have a large variety of skills and that they might be up to date on the latest technology. They also don't have the concept that an older employee is usually very willing to take a pay cut to remain employed. It doesn't matter if you made financial arrangements 25 or 30 years ago, those were made using 30 year old figures and with the cost of everything including the basics like fuel food and heating going way up the amount you figured on 10 years ago won't take you much past 70 years of age. Most of my smarter friends who started saving and investing a lot earlier than I and thought they would retire at 55 now find that they will be lucky if they can retire at 65 without selling their home and possessions and retiring to a shack on the beach and that little plot on the beach will cost them more than their former house sold for. For those who are laid off in their 40s and 50s who have updated and have maintained multiprofessional skill sets finding a job anywhere int eh U.S. other than slinging hash (which I have done) is almost an impossibility. If they try to retire today on their retirement plans they will find that after 10 to 15 years they are out of funds and candidates for the democrat party concept of "just die and get out of the way".


243 posted on 04/23/2006 11:44:16 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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