'Tangible proof' al-Qaida deploying nukes (Bombshell presentation)

WorldNetDaily ^ | 4/25/06 | WorldNetDaily.com

[demkicker]

A terrorism symposium featuring leading experts will begin with presentation of "tangible proof" al-Qaida not only has developed an arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons but also has begun to deploy them for use in its jihad against the United States and Israel.

Paul L. Williams, author of "The Al Connection" and "The Dunces of Doomsday," will present his findings at the National Press Club in Washington at the conclusion of a public debate with Wall Street Journal correspondent Richard Miniter on al-Qaida's nuclear weaponry.

The debate, Friday at 10 a.m., will be moderated by Fred Barnes, executive editor of The Weekly Standard and regular contributor to the Fox News Channel. The public is invited to attend.

The organizers say the event is timely, "with increased anxiety over demands for a pullout from Iraq, the nuclear developments in Iran and North Korea, the failure of our government to secure the borders and our country's fledgling, incomprehensive effort at homeland security."

Epstein believes the majority of Americans disapprove of both the "cut-and-run policy" proposed by many leading Democrats and the "compassionate conservative" approach of the Bush administration, favoring instead a "firm and decisive military action with no apologies to Russia, China, France, Germany, Saudi Arabia or the United Nations."

"I am convinced that the threat we are currently facing from radical Islam greatly surpasses that which was posed by the Third Reich," Epstein said.

Anyone interested in attending, Epstein added, should contact America's Truth Forum at its website or by calling 866-709-3474.

The event offers the following speakers (continued):

[FightThePower!]

OOOOh, I'm sooooooo scared.

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "It would however be the end of the middle east and any other country full of crackpot muslims."

I don't see that it would be the end to any of those countries and their people. However, it should be the end to that *religion* -- and maybe at that point in time -- we would eliminate that religion from anyone's choice and completely destroy it (not the countries and peoples, though).

And also, I would say that -- at that time -- you would see all the mosques shut down in the U.S. (at least) -- and hopefully the war against the religion of Islam would begin -- in earnest.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "there are many on this forum, that see it happening as an eventuality, the question becomes not IF, but WHEN."

Many government officials are "on record" in saying that a WMD attack will eventually succeed (in that we won't be able to stop 100% of everything coming through). Our government is pretty much *assuring* us that this *will be the case*.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "..once the N hits they are history"

I have no idea why you think this will happen. The U.S. will never indiscriminately destroy another nation or peoples -- just on the basis that they are Arab or Muslim or whatever. It would have to be a national declaration of war.

A terrorist group "declaring war" is like a gang in LA declaring war on the U.S. The U.S. doesn't bomb LA. They root out the gang. That's what we're doing now.

A nuclear blast wouldn't change the principle -- although it might drastically change the strategy of the war. I would hope it would change the strategy to *eliminating* Islam from the U.S. and also eliminating it from the world. I'm talking about the *religion* and not the people.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "agreed, that will probably be the response but remember,
this enemy doesn't care if we do nuke them."

Well.., then -- do we nuke Detroit then -- where one of the largest groups of Islamics is in the U.S.?

And then, do we proceed to nuke other U.S. cities where we find Muslims? That makes just as much sense as nuking any other country where you find Muslims.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "Make no mistake, even if we are brought to our knees we will still have the technology to completely and utterly destroy our enemies."

The problem is that the nukes do not distinguish between your enemies and your friends. You end up killing your friends, too.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Star Traveler]

You said -- ""Suitcase nukes" are a myth propagated by conspiracy theorists."

Opinions are on the other side, too. So, it's "he said -- she said". Who do you believe. And -- further than that -- it doesn't matter "who you believe" -- but rather, which is the *truth* of the matter. That's the "real problem".

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "If they could launch one about 200 miles up of sufficient power the EMP would do it. Alas Babylon!"

It's been reported that Iran is working on that -- for the U.S.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[demkicker]

Ask me if I caaaaaaare.

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "Ask me if I caaaaaaare."

You should have asked him if he "CAIRs"....

He sounds sort of like an apologist for CAIR.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[Star Traveler]

Here's a partial quote from WND's G2 Bulletin....

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More evidence of al-Qaida nukes

Pakistani journalist who met bin Laden confirms acquisition
Publishing Date: 27.04.06 17:42

Hamid Mir, the only journalist to interview Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri in the wake of 9/11, has confirmed that al-Qaida has obtained nuclear suitcase weapons from the Russian black market, that the weapons were tested in Kabul in 2000 and that may have already been forward deployed to the United States.

"If you think that my information and analysis about bin Laden's location is correct," Mir said, "then please don't underestimate my analysis about his nuclear threat also."

Mir said that he met with an Egyptian engineer last week who had lost an eye after one of bin Laden's nuclear tests in Kunar. The Pakistani journalist said that the encounter with the engineer greatly disturbed and depressed him since it provided further assurance that a nuclear nightmare for America is about to dawn.

Mir believes that an "American Hiroshima" will occur as soon as the U.S. launches an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. "Al-Qaida and Iran," he says, "have a long, secret relationship."

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And there you have it...

Regards,
Star Traveler

[RightOnline]

"Three or four tactical nukes set off one day (one week, etc)at a time would effectively end the US as we know it."

Speaking as one whose sole job was nuclear war for years, I say.......bullshit, son. Utter, complete bullshit.

[RightOnline]

Would you STOP that whiny, defeatist bullshit?? What's with you "omg.......a few nukes and the US as we know it is FINISHED!!!" crowd??

We have become such a nation of pussies. You obviously didn't paricipate in the Cold War.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Sounds like a barrel of laughs. My possession of a vast fortune could be the topic of an equally relevant debate.

[mkjessup]

You said -- "General Tommy Franks is on record as stating that in the event of a WMD attack on the United States by terrorists, that the most likely and immediate result would be an imposition of martial law, suspension of the Constitution, and we would have a military government for the duration."
So.., "for the duration".... Europe had a "hundred years war". Hmmm..., could be that long...
Regards,
Star Traveler

For a Star Traveler, 100 years is nothing. Don't worry about it, look on the bright side: you can work on your game of checkers while the years pass by normally for you, and more slowly for us Earth dwellers under martial law.

[mkjessup]

Joe Farah's "G2 Bulletin"?

BWHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Did you fork over $99 for that fearmongering drool-alert?

I got something you might be interested in, it converts ordinary tapwater into high octane gasoline, the oil companies have been trying to steal it from me, but for $50,000 cash, I'll let you have it, it works great, I can even give you a demo, just let me know ok?

["he bought the Joe Farah G2 'Intel Bulletin' for $99 bucks, oh my GAWD!"]

[mkjessup]

"Three or four tactical nukes set off one day (one week, etc)at a time would effectively end the US as we know it."
Speaking as one whose sole job was nuclear war for years, I say.......bullshit, son. Utter, complete bullshit.

DITTO!

And let me say, *thank you* for your years of service to America.

I am amazed at the naive beliefs of some who think that a handful of nukes would "end America", it is an absurd notion. Would we have an unlimited national emergency and martial law? Most likely. But the end of America?

Don't you believe it folks. By that logic, the entire northeastern U.S. should have surrendered to al Qaeda on the morning of September 12th.

Think about it.

[tonycavanagh]

There are people who like being scared, and there are plenty of pundits out there on both the right and left who like to scare them, and make a good living out of it.

But when you take along cold look at the scare scenario, you find there are always pieces missing or glossed over.

Logistic, technical support, putting a system together, that sort of thing.

[Mark17]

Bump for later reading.

[Shaun_MD]

I agree with you. We have become a nation of weaklings. That will be what finishes us if nukes go off. It's not whiny and it's not defeatist. It's the truth. If this were a few generations ago I would rate the chance of surviving much higher. We've raised a generation of self serving, mindless people who without the infrastructure would collapse in a terrified heap.