United 93 (An Early Review)

Reel Reviews ^ | james berardinelli

[blu]

Have you seen the movie? What changes?

[WestVirginiaRebel]

A John Ford documentary, "December 7th, 1941," came out in 1943 and won an Oscar. "The Flying Tigers" starring John Wayne, came out in 1942 and featured news of the attack near the end of the movie (including Roosevelt's speech declaring war on Japan being broadcast over a radio). The first movie that I can recall being directly about Pearl Harbor is the classic From Here To Eternity, which came out in 1953, twelve years later.

Note: Some of the pilots who were in the real Flying Tigers were reportedly so embarressed by the movie when they were invited to the premiere that they were caught trying to sneak out of the theater...also, John Wayne reportedly got drunk with some pilots while on a tour in New Guinea and they left him out on the tarmac on a cot, stark naked. He woke up with a hangover, rolled over and went back to sleep (from The Internet Movie Databases's Flying Tigers page).

[pcottraux]

Well, I think the point isn't to make ANY commentary on the events. Just show it for what happened.

[Borges]

If there's ever been a dramatic treatment of historical events that didn't take some sort of dramatic license it's news to me.

[Calpernia]

I've not seen it. I just know some families involved.

[jpl]

The only people who might have some validity in being uncomfortable with the film are the very close friends and family members of those who died on 9/11.

Anyone else not in that category saying that it's "too soon" is someone who would never be comfortable with a patriotic 9/11 movie coming out ever, and would rather just forget that it ever happened.

[Calpernia]

Let's just hope it has no impact on trials.

[Guenevere]

What in the world????

HOW could the cockpit be intact?...it took a nosedive into the ground?

This has to be an untruth!

[taxed2death]

"...what we need is a MSM that shows the towers being brought down at least once daily. Show the grusome stuff..the folks throwing themselves off the towers in desperation."

Yes, exactly what the fanatical Muzzies want....more advertising.

/sarcasm off

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

On movies boards people say "Stone is a great director so there will be no politics involved." Yeah. Sure. I respond that if they hire Quentin Tarantino to do a "Barney" film, something is guaranteed to get massacred in the movie.

[Calpernia]

>>>it took a nosedive into the ground

You know that?

[Choose Ye This Day]

What if they (like this movie) help people to steel their resolve and recognize how depraved, evil and soulless our enemies are?

[Guenevere]

Look Calpernia....every account I've heard or read said there was only a crater & the plane had simply disintegrated, along with the passengers....

..not unlike what happened to the people riding the trade centers down.

[taxed2death]

"Anyone else not in that category saying that it's "too soon" is someone who would never be comfortable with a patriotic 9/11 movie coming out ever, and would rather just forget that it ever happened."

Not necessarily. I'd like to see the follow-up of the 911 attack... some real accounts of heroism like when the US troops and allies churned the Muzzy bastards guts into axle grease.....perhaps a few feet of footage of the Black Watch running out of ammo and chasing down some of the "insurgents" with their knives and eviscerating them one by one. Now THAT's entertainment!

:)

[Sally'sConcerns]

I would rather have the Flight 93 passengers.

I think we all would have rather had the passengers. The only thing is, if we didn't have a Capitol building, the outcome would still have been the same for the passengers.

I'd rather have both and have dead terrorists.

[colorcountry]

But Greengrass and Universal Pictures knew the project would be controversial and had to be done with the full consent of all the families of those who died. In an industry best known for its ruthlessness and mercenary ideals, that was a revolutionary idea. So began a remarkable outreach campaign which not only won that consent but also turned it into co-operation. Contacts were made through an organisation representing the families and meetings were held with relatives.

Maybe you have different information...

[Heyworth]

Didn't release of "The Fighting Sullivans" get delayed during WWII for much the same reason?

I don't know anything about a delay, and since the sinking of the Juneau happened on Nov. 11, 1942 and the movie opened on Feb. 3, 1944, it sure doesn't look like there was any meaningful delay.

[taxed2death]

"What if they (like this movie) help people to steel their resolve and recognize how depraved, evil and soulless our enemies are?"

I don't need to see the vid of the poor Thai chap getting his head slowly sawed off with a very dull knife... and hearing the death rattle noises coming from his lungs as they stopped and watched him in his death throes.....

over and over and over.

Once is enough for me to get the point across.

However......
I do like to put in the famous F-16 strike vid appropriately names "Awwwwww DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDEEEEEE" at least once a week for a good laugh.
Seeing those maggots getting immolated and bowled over by that 500 pounder never fails to get a chuckle out of me.

:)

[Calpernia]

>>>>every account I've heard or read said there was only a crater & the plane had simply disintegrated, along with the passengers....

Yes, everything that has been released for our information.

Is this correct? What will happen if a trial reveals different information? Will the movie taint that?

[Calpernia]

>>>>But Greengrass and Universal Pictures knew the project would be controversial and had to be done with the full consent of all the families of those who died.

You don't have to believe me. See post 26.