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George Allen's Race Problem - Pin Prick
The New Republic ^ | 4/28/06

Posted on 04/28/2006 5:58:15 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: kabar; AuH2ORepublican; JohnnyZ; Clemenza; Kuksool; BlackElk

Webb is a phony opportunist, he'll be lucky to hold Allen under 60%.


81 posted on 04/28/2006 10:21:54 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: kabar
"Fairfax County went for Kerry in 2004 and the election of Kaine was primarily due to the vote in Northern Virginia. It didn't help that the GOP selected a lousy candidate."

We had an excellent candidate, he just ran a truly horrible campaign.

82 posted on 04/28/2006 10:23:22 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: areafiftyone
None of this means Allen is a racist, of course...

Oh no, we wouldn't want to give that impression in our snide hit piece.

Libs have nothing but personal attack to offer. All Republicans are nothing but differing combinations of racist, stupid and mean.

83 posted on 04/28/2006 10:40:10 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No matter who we nominate in 2008, the extreme left will protray him as a racist.

George Allen - a Neo-Confederate like they did to President Bush

Rudy - The father of police bruality

Mitt Romney - The Mormon Church didn't allow blacks to become Elders until 1978.

McCain - He comes from AZ, a state with few blacks. Thus he is insensitive to the needs of Al Shartpton.


84 posted on 04/28/2006 10:44:53 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: fieldmarshaldj

We'll agree to disagree. Kaine ate him up in the debates.


85 posted on 04/28/2006 1:24:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar; fieldmarshaldj
We'll agree to disagree. Kaine ate him up in the debates.

Granted. But that was really more a symptom of the poor campaign than the poor candidate.

Jerry Kilgore performed much better as a candidate for Attorney General. As a candiate for Governor he got some really, really, really bad advice.

86 posted on 04/28/2006 1:45:42 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Kuksool

Why would they scream rudy is the father of police brutality?


87 posted on 04/28/2006 2:02:35 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Justanobody

Sorry-I should have said IMHO.


88 posted on 04/28/2006 2:13:01 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: absolootezer0

The universal health care is actually looked upon favorably by conservative economists at the Heritage Foundation. It shifts the costs from the govt to the indivuduals who are on the public rolls.


89 posted on 04/28/2006 2:15:20 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: AmishDude

Agreed


90 posted on 04/28/2006 2:15:56 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: onyx

Bumping for a later read....thanks for the ping!


91 posted on 04/28/2006 2:26:47 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Corin Stormhands
Granted. But that was really more a symptom of the poor campaign than the poor candidate.

Kilgore has to be held responsible, not his campaign manager. He couldn't bring his advisors on stage to debate Kaine. It was one on one with each candidate being asked to articulate their policies and be nimble enough to counter their opponent.

Jerry Kilgore performed much better as a candidate for Attorney General. As a candiate for Governor he got some really, really, really bad advice.

Different office, different criteria. If he followed that "really, really, really bad advice," then it is a more of a reflection on his judgment and political savvy than those who gave him the advice.

92 posted on 04/28/2006 2:30:02 PM PDT by kabar
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Support George Allen

George Allen 2006

93 posted on 04/28/2006 3:16:32 PM PDT by Ligeia (Help unseat Jim Moran: http://www.tomodonoghue.com/about.html)
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To: kabar

I'm not saying Kilgore wasn't to blame, he certainly was. What I ~am~ saying though is that he's a much better and brighter person and candidate than what we saw. And a lot of that was controlled by the "experts."

I've seen more than one candidate ruined by the "experts."

Kilgore ~is~ better than what we saw.


94 posted on 04/28/2006 3:23:53 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Kilgore ~is~ better than what we saw

It is either that or my lying eyes.

95 posted on 04/28/2006 4:24:50 PM PDT by kabar
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To: areafiftyone; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; ...
Well, lookity here: Remarks of James Webb at the Confederate Memorial June 3, 1990

I am not here to apologize f or why they fought, although modern historians might contemplate that there truly were different perceptions in the North and South about those reasons, and that most Southern soldiers viewed the driving issue to be sovereignty rather than slavery. In 1860 fewer than five percent of the people in the South owned slaves, and fewer than twenty percent were involved with slavery in any capacity. Love of the Union was palpably stronger in the South than in the North before the war -- just as overt patriotism is today -- but it was tempered by a strong belief that state sovereignty existed prior to the Constitution, and that it had never been surrendered. Nor had Abraham Lincoln ended slavery in Kentucky and Missouri when those border states did not secede. Perhaps all of us might reread the writings of Alexander Stephens, a brilliant attorney who opposed secession but then became Vice President of the Confederacy, making a convincing legal argument that the constitutional compact was terminable. And who wryly commented at the outset of the war that "the North today presents the spectacle of a free people having gone to war to make freemen of slaves, while all they have as yet attained is to make slaves of themselves."

No wonder Mr. Webb's campaign said this Kristian Denny Todd, press secretary for James Webb, the other Democrat seeking the Senate race nomination, said Webb thought the New Republic article "hit below the belt." She said Webb wants a "campaign about issues, not one filled with personal attacks." (RTD, April 28)

I sent the link to Harris Miller for Senate.

96 posted on 04/29/2006 7:13:22 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: areafiftyone
This article was way too long and silly. "Frou frou"?

NR is the best the lft can do and they can't help but be dull. It reads like a too wordy article from one of the free weekly rags.

97 posted on 04/29/2006 8:29:06 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
...he lived in a log home in the mountains outside of Charlottesville...It's not an act.

Well Corin, you just couldn't "chill out", you had to mention that.
Now George Allen will never get the metrosexual vote!

98 posted on 04/29/2006 9:20:09 AM PDT by jla
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To: jla; All
Allen ain't nothin' but a hot dog
Kathleen Parker, Town Hall

The fact that the mudslinging has begun so early - while Allen is busy running for re-election to the Senate - confirms how seriously opponents take his presidential candidacy.

Allen, indeed, is a favorite among Republican Party players. He's also the one Democrats worry about most, according to an insider who told me: "The one Hillary's worried about is George Allen."

...In California in the early '70s, when everybody was smoking dope, protesting the Vietnam War and waging lovefests, slapping a Confederate flag sticker on your red Mustang and wearing a Confederate lapel pin was most likely the act of a rebel, not a racist.

99 posted on 04/29/2006 10:20:03 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Mia T
Mia...See prev. post.

Thanks for posting that one, Corin.

100 posted on 04/29/2006 2:51:20 PM PDT by jla
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