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Conspiracy Film Rewrites Sept. 11 (Lunatic Alert!)
Yahooooooo! ^ | April 28, 2006 | William Welch

Posted on 04/28/2006 7:21:24 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Gypsy Taub, a mother of three from Oakland, does not believe that 9/11 happened. At least not the way the government said it did.

A Russian émigré, Taub is one of a growing number of people in the USA who are using the Internet, college campuses and pamphleteering to get the word out.

"Oh yeah, absolutely. On the day it happened, I thought it was the government that did it," she said.

Taub is promoting one of the latest presentations of revisionist theories on the 2001 attacks by al-Qaeda terrorists, a film that says, among other things, that the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile fired by the military as an excuse to go to war.

Called Loose Change, it is being downloaded from the Internet and shown in small screenings here and overseas. It is not alone in the genre, and it is not unusual in American history either to offer simplistic explanations or demonize opponents. Presidents from Andrew Jackson to Lyndon Johnson were accused by their contemporaries of massive government conspiracies.

The film appears especially popular among young people immersed in a Web culture brimming with sites that question the credibility of government. They see 9/11 as the defining moment of their lives.

"This is our generation's Vietnam, our generation's Kennedy assassination," says Korey Rowe, 23, the film's producer.

Professors and researchers of film and politics say the Internet is making it far easier to spread such theories because the traditional media are losing their hold on the news. The immense coverage of controversies and accusations surrounding the war on terror has created fertile ground for people who assign their own interpretations to photos, footage, eyewitnesses, investigations and newspaper accounts of what happened, they say.

"The information revolution now gives us access to too much information," says Jonathan Taplin, who teaches at the Annenberg School for Communications at the University of Southern California. "Our problems are that we're just overwhelmed, so in some sense we just basically don't even know where to turn."

'It's all over the place'

Craig Smith, director of the Center for First Amendment Studies at California State University, Long Beach, cites the unusual nature of 9/11: four airliners simultaneously hijacked and no defenses stop them.

"You would say, come on, I can't even buy that as a movie script," Smith says. "All of this feeds this readiness for paranoia."

Made by Rowe and friend Dylan Avery, 22, from Oneonta, N.Y., on a laptop computer for less than $10,000, the film contrasts sharply with United 93, a film opening Friday that portrays the struggle for the jetliner that crashed in Shanksville, Pa.

Internet chat rooms are full of promos for screenings of Loose Change in such locales as the Santa Cruz Veterans Memorial Building in California; the Université de Sherbrooke, Quebec; Graz, Austria; and a theater in London's Soho district.

"It's been breaking like nobody's business the last two months," says Taub, 36, who is sponsoring a showing Tuesday night in Oakland. "It's all over the place."

'They aren't truth-tellers'

Most of what the film alleges is refuted by the evidence at hand. Anything not answered definitively by the government is interpreted by the film as proof of a coverup.

Among the assertions in Loose Change is that a missile hit the Pentagon even though eyewitnesses saw the jet, numerous pieces of wreckage were found including the flight recorder, and those on the flight and in its path at the Pentagon are dead.

There is also the claim that because jet fuel burns at up to 1,500 degrees and steel melts at 2,750 degrees, the World Trade Center's infrastructure could not have been brought down by the airliners. However, as reported by the Journal of the Minerals, Metals and Materials Society, steel loses 50% of its strength at 1,200 degrees, enough for a failure.

"The only thing they (the filmmakers) seem to have gotten right about the Sept. 11 attacks is the date when they occurred," says Debra Burlingame, whose brother was the pilot of American Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon.

"They aren't truth-tellers looking to save the world," she says. "They're con artists hoping to sucker conspiracy-theory paranoids or anti-government malcontents into shelling out their hard-earned dollars."

Some college students who saw Loose Change and are promoting it say it's good to raise questions.

The film offers "at the very least suggests that we don't know the whole truth, and that some things are quite fishy," says Matt Latham, a freshman at the University of California, Santa Cruz.

'Students love it'

Christian Pecaut, 25, a Stanford graduate who is promoting the film at the University of California, Berkeley campus, said the film is "catchy, hip," with an "upbeat soundtrack."

Aaron Williams, a senior at Texas A&M University and president of the philosophy club, believes the film. "Government is corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely," he says.

Penelope Price, a documentary filmmaker and professor at Scottsdale Community College, said she brought the filmmakers to the campus to stimulate critical thinking.

"Students love it," she said. "These guys have done a great job of marketing on the Web, and that was another reason I wanted to bring them in."

Conservative writer David Horowitz, a former 1960s radical, says conspiratorial thinking can offer a world view that is somehow less scary than reality. "Conspiracy theories are a kind of secular religion," he says, adding that campus faculties sometimes encourage anti-government feelings. "People feel great anxiety ... by the thought that nobody's in control."

People believe in conspiracy theories because the truth "is either too simple or too remote," says sociologist Clifton Bryant of Virginia Tech University, who has made a study of "deviant logic" and behavior.

"We're always ready to believe something about which we know nothing," he says.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911conspiracy; americahaters; bushhaters; campuscommies; campusradicals; conspiracytheories; hollyweird; kooktokookam; loonyleft; marxists; propaganda; radicalleftists; sept11
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"Gypsy Taub, a mother of three from Oakland, does not believe that 9/11 happened. At least not the way the government said it did.

A Russian émigré,"


A Russian named Gypsy, and a mother of three!

She actually had three children! Not one. Not two. But THREE! And she is from Russia. And with a name like Gypsy, how can she be wrong about anything so important???
21 posted on 04/28/2006 7:41:06 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: ariamne
Why does the truth, that we were attacked on 9/11 by islamic wackos, scare them so?

Because it's much easier to blame it on our own government that to admit the truth that someone's declared war on us.
22 posted on 04/28/2006 7:41:42 AM PDT by Mcirrus (Future Reference)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

""They're con artists hoping to sucker conspiracy-theory paranoids or anti-government malcontents into shelling out their hard-earned dollars."


Which is why I've no plans to watch this piece of crap, nor the "Flight 93" film, nor "Fahrenheit 911", etc.

Unless the "Flight 93" film-makers are donating 100% of the proceeds to 9-11 victims, they can be accused of doing the same thing as Moore-on and these idiots - profitting from tragedy. The only difference is the target audience.


23 posted on 04/28/2006 7:42:06 AM PDT by Blzbba (Beauty is just a light switch away...)
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To: silverleaf

Good source for debunking.


24 posted on 04/28/2006 7:42:36 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: silverleaf

Great post! I'll be checking out that link later today.


25 posted on 04/28/2006 7:42:59 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Fresh Wind; fhlh
Who hires these DOLTS????

McDonalds.

McDonalds would never put up with these idiots!

Their only hope is to teach at some University in the near future.

26 posted on 04/28/2006 7:44:24 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: silverleaf

While these eye witness accounts confirm what you and I believe, I remember close to 200 eye witness accounts around Long Island New York that were deemed not credible.

For the record, I believe both sets of eye witnesses.


27 posted on 04/28/2006 7:44:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: jujigatami

I would have went hysterical laughing. How can you not? Next time try a good laugh in the face of the ass; it will do you a world of good! :)


28 posted on 04/28/2006 7:45:22 AM PDT by angcat
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

P.T. Barnum and H.L. Mencken (I think)were right. " "There's a sucker born every minute" and " Nobody ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public".
The sad part is these are college students.


29 posted on 04/28/2006 7:46:17 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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Ok, somebody, please post the "Oh No, Not This S**t Again" guy.


30 posted on 04/28/2006 7:46:39 AM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Have they ran down all the passengers on the planes and did interviews with them talking about their part in the grand conspiracy. It is amazing how people so insanely dum-b manage to get publicity.


31 posted on 04/28/2006 7:48:10 AM PDT by marty60
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To: jujigatami

I can sympathize. I can't imagine having actually witnessed the event and having to put up with these idiots.

Opie and Anthony had this Korey character (the guy who produced this kookfest) on a couple of weeks ago, and they absolutely tore him a new one. A NYPD cop who was on the scene on 9/11 called in and also tore the guy to shreds. Actual eye-witness accounts won't sway these fools, though. It is just infuriating that people buy into their nonsense.


32 posted on 04/28/2006 7:48:34 AM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
If you DID want to start a war with a pathetic, backwarter, Third World hellhole like Afganistan or Iraq, there have got to be cheaper ways of doing it than destroying a billion dollars of your own real estate, damaging your own economy, and killing 3000 of your own people. "True Belivers", indeed!
33 posted on 04/28/2006 7:49:05 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You know, it's funny how their view of things would change if it had been Clinton in charge.
These people don't deserve an ounce of intellectual firepower reasoning with them, they would explode instantaneously.
34 posted on 04/28/2006 7:49:48 AM PDT by PLOM...NOT! (Checking in from Wisconsin)
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To: PLOM...NOT!

Yahoo sure lives up to its' name. Why would you even give these people the time of day? There's no agenda here...let's move on.


35 posted on 04/28/2006 7:53:08 AM PDT by PLOM...NOT! (Checking in from Wisconsin)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; eyespysomething
eyewitnesses saw the jet, numerous pieces of wreckage were found including the flight recorder, and those on the flight and in its path at the Pentagon are dead.

These are minor problems with the overall theory and can be easily explained away by a sinister governmental conspiracy that involves mass brainwashing, billion dollar pay-offs, murder threats and Jooooooos.

36 posted on 04/28/2006 7:55:25 AM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
A Russian émigré, Taub is one of a growing number of people in the USA who are using the Internet, college campuses and pamphleteering to get the word out.

"Oh yeah, absolutely. On the day it happened, I thought it was the government that did it," she said.

And that's the great thing about this country. Back in Mother Russia during the glory days she'd get tossed in a gulag and forgotten about for saying something like this.

Of course, if our government is so bad, why doesn't she head on back to Russia?

37 posted on 04/28/2006 7:55:45 AM PDT by mikemach5
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Truth and reality need a place on the endangered species list.

Our only hope is that tin foil hats attract lightening.


38 posted on 04/28/2006 7:57:06 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hanging and firing squad, was not deemed cruel or inhumane execution by the writers of that clause.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
adding that campus faculties sometimes encourage are a hotbed of anti-government feelings

(there)

However, these kooks are so far out that only their lunatic fringe will believe them - but they serve a reverse purpose...it reminds us all of what really did happen - never forget

39 posted on 04/28/2006 8:00:35 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time," Lincoln)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Utter nut-case conspiracy morons in every generation. More ammunition for my idea that a basic IQ test should be administered in order to vote. Votes cast would be weighted by IQ score and a basic current events test.

Those smart enough to know the score get more weight, monkey's pushing shiny buttons get weighted less.

40 posted on 04/28/2006 8:00:46 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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