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L.A. FOX 11 Tony Valdez - "You killed people to take this country for yourselves" (Audio #289)
John and Ken show ^ | 5-1-06 | dfu

Posted on 05/01/2006 6:26:27 PM PDT by doug from upland

Local Fox News in Los Angeles, Channel 11, had an incredible exchange in a segment with John and Ken. J & K were chastizing the press for not showing the other side about all the costs of illegal aliens.

There was a difference of opinion between FOX personnel and John and Ken about the effect of the boycott.

And then there was an amazing statement, actually a monologue for news reporter Tony Valdez. Rather than posing a question to John and Ken, he launched into the whole Reconquista argument, talking about Manifest Destiny and U.S. invasion of Mexico in 1846. He talked about how this country took this part of the world by force and how they do that in Iraq and Iran.

And then this news reporter, news reporter mind you, said, "You took this country. You killed people to take this country for yourselves."

Fox 11 needs to hear from us.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; channel11; foxlosangeles; reconquista; tonyvaldez; unodemayo
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To: doug from upland

Calling restaurant owners that pay illegals dirt wages slave owners...
just about my same argument that business owners are benefiting from a
de facto slave system of desparate and hyper-compliant illegals.


121 posted on 05/01/2006 8:18:56 PM PDT by VOA
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To: dennisw

Excellent comment.


122 posted on 05/01/2006 8:20:33 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
That makes sense.

I watched it as it was broadcast on FOX 11 and was struck by how slow and deliberate he was speaking, and then to only hear the audio of him the 2nd time, it was that much more magnified.

123 posted on 05/01/2006 8:21:00 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: doug from upland

My, my, my, showing those true colors now isn't he? (the reporter) Man, we sure do need that wall!


124 posted on 05/01/2006 8:21:05 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: VOA
With 10 million gone from California, we will once again be able to drive on the freeways, go to the emergency rooms, breathe cleaner air, have less gang crime, and some will be able to finally afford homes. Gee, we wouldn't want that, would we?
125 posted on 05/01/2006 8:21:25 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
Yes, I never heard Ken speak so slowly.

Great rhetorical flare! Ken slows down so that:
1. Even someone with poor command of English can get at least the outline
of his argument...
2. Deny the word-hogs of Channel 11 News more time say "blah, blah, blah..."
126 posted on 05/01/2006 8:21:28 PM PDT by VOA
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To: justa-hairyape

We should take Baja for spite. Tell them, Sorry we meant to take it the first time, now get out. lol
127 posted on 05/01/2006 8:21:55 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (Free Republic - The pulse of conservative politics, without lame stream media filtration.)
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To: doug from upland
John and Ken are just great on some issues -- 3 Strikes, Condit, Illegal Aliens.

I usually do not listen since they usually buy the 'no WMD' MSM and Rino song and dance. Unless they have recently changed. I know this station aired the John Zigler interview of Jveritas.

128 posted on 05/01/2006 8:22:14 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: VOA
Point #2 is brilliant!

lol!

129 posted on 05/01/2006 8:22:31 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Yeah, I am going to wear my Alamo t-shirt to Kiwanis tomorrow.


130 posted on 05/01/2006 8:22:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: DAC22

maybe that link in post 47 can get us to a downloadable copy of this priceless
dialogue.
I've got to check tomorrow.

If KFI's servers are out tomorrow, it will either be that downloaders
overloaded them.
Or Tony Valdez and MeChA make sure the servers had "an unfortunate accident".


131 posted on 05/01/2006 8:24:58 PM PDT by VOA
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To: TheForceOfOne

Arizona could use some coastal property. We should probably make the following trade with Mexico. Senator John McCain for annexing North Eastern Gulf of California coast to the state of Arizona.


132 posted on 05/01/2006 8:26:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: All

Astonishing comments from a TV news reporter.


133 posted on 05/01/2006 8:28:55 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: VOA

I am recording it now... Where can I upload it


134 posted on 05/01/2006 8:29:13 PM PDT by ARA
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To: doug from upland
Here are some good Tee shirts.
135 posted on 05/01/2006 8:29:57 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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To: doug from upland

hmmm...need to see if "Culture Clash" has got a listing at discoverthenetwork.org

Tony Valdez's appearance: "In Tequila, Veritas".


136 posted on 05/01/2006 8:30:47 PM PDT by VOA
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To: xcamel; doug from upland
A brief history of Texas:

Before 1500 -- Prior to the arrival of the first European explorers, numerous tribes of the Indians of Texas occupied the region between the Rio Grande to the south and the Red River to the north.

Mid-1519 -- Sailing from a base in Jamaica, Alonso Alvarez de Pineda, a Spanish adventurer, was the first known European to explore and map the Texas coastline.

November 1528 -- Cabeza de Vaca shipwrecked on what is believed today to be Galveston Island. After trading in the region for some six years, he later explored the Texas interior on his way to Mexico.

1540-1542 -- In search of the fabled Seven Cities of Cibola, Francisco Vasquez de Coronado lead an expedition into the present southwestern United States and across northern Texas.

18 February 1685 -- Robert Cavelier, Sieur de LaSalle established Fort St. Louis at Matagorda Bay, and thus formed the basis for France's claim to Texas. Two years later, LaSalle was murdered by his own men.

22 April 1689 -- Mexican explorer Alonso de Leon reached Fort St. Louis, and found it abandoned, during an expedition planned to reestablish Spanish presence in Texas.

1716-1789 -- Throughout the 18th century, Spain established Catholic missions in Texas, and along with the missions, the towns of San Antonio, Goliad and Nacogdoches.

8 August 1812 -- About 130-men strong, the Gutierrez-Magee Expedition crossed the Sabine from Louisiana in a rebel movement against Spanish rule in Texas.

1817-1820 -- Jean Laffite occupied Galveston Island and used it as a base for his smuggling and privateering operation. (The South's favorite pirate!)

3 January 1823 -- Stephen F. Austin received a grant from the Mexican government and began colonization in the region of the Brazos River. The Mexican government enticed citizen (via land grants) from the United States to help colonize Tejas. They were known as Texians.

Mid-1824 -- The Constitution of 1824 gave Mexico a republican form of government. It failed, however, to define the rights of the states within the republic, including Texas.

6 April 1830--Relations between the Texans and Mexico reached a new low when Mexico forbid further emigration into Texas by settlers from the United States.

26 June 1832--The Battle of Velasco resulted in the first casualties in Texas' relations with Mexico. After several days of fighting, the Mexicans under Domingo de Ugartechea were forced to surrender for lack of ammunition.

1832-1833 -- The Convention of 1832 and the Convention of 1833 in Texas were triggered by growing dissatisfaction among the settlements with the policies of the government in Mexico City.

2 October 1835 -- Texans repulsed a detachment of Mexican cavalry at the Battle of Gonzales. The revolution began.

9 October 1835 -- The Goliad Campaign of 1835 ended when George Collingsworth, Ben Milam, and forty-nine other Texans stormed the presidio at Goliad and a small detachment of Mexican defenders.

28 October 1835 -- Jim Bowie, James Fannin and 90 Texans defeated 450 Mexicans at the Battle of Concepcion, near San Antonio.

3 November 1835 -- The Consultation met to consider options for more autonomous rule for Texas. A document known as the Organic Law outlined the organization and functions of a new Provisional Government.

8 November 1835 -- The Grass Fight near San Antonio was won by the Texans under Jim Bowie and Ed Burleson. Instead of silver, however, the Texans gained a worthless bounty of grass.

11 December 1835 -- Mexicans under Gen. Cos surrendered San Antonio to the Texans following the Siege of Bexar. Ben Milam was killed during the extended siege.

2 March 1836 -- The Texas Declaration of Independence was signed by members of the Convention of 1836. (Signed at Washington on the Brazos) An ad interim government was formed for the newly created Republic of Texas.

6 March 1836 -- Texans under Col. William B. Travis were overwhelmed by the Mexican army after a two-week siege at the Battle of the Alamo in San Antonio. REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!

10 March 1836 -- Sam Houston abandoned Gonzales in a general retreat eastward to avoid the invading Mexican army.

27 March 1836 -- James Fannin and nearly 400 Texans were executed by the Mexicans at the Goliad Massacre, under order of Santa Anna.

21 April 1836 -- Texans under Sam Houston routed the Mexican forces of Santa Anna at the Battle of San Jacinto. Thus, independence was won in one of the most decisive battles in history. Sam Houston was the first president of Texas. As a side note, he was thought to be rather fond of his drink.

November 1839 -- The Texas Congress first met in Austin, the frontier site selected for the capital of the Republic.

11 August 1840 -- The Battle of Plum Creek, near present-day Lockhart, ended the boldest and most penetrating Comanche challenge to the Texas Republic.

June 1841 -- The Texan Santa Fe Expedition set out for New Mexico. Near Sante Fe, they were intercepted by Mexican forces and marched 2000 miles to prison in Mexico City.

5 March 1842 --A Mexican force of over 500 men under Rafael Vasquez invaded Texas for the first time since the revolution. They briefly occupied San Antonio, but soon headed back to the Rio Grande.

11 September 1842 -- San Antonio was again captured, this time by 1400 Mexican troops under Adrian Woll. Again the Mexicans retreated, but this time with prisoners.

Fall 1842 -- Sam Houston authorized Alexander Somervell to lead a retaliatory raid into Mexico. The resulting Somervell Expedition dissolved, however, after briefly taking the border towns of Laredo and Guerreo.

20 December 1842 -- Some 300 members of the Somervell force set out to continue raids into Mexico. Ten days and 20 miles later, the ill-fated Mier Expedition surrendered at the Mexican town of Mier.

29 December 1845 -- U. S. President James Polk followed through on a campaign platform promising to annex Texas, and signed legislation making Texas the 28th state of the United States.

I can't attribute this to the correct website as I had copy/pasted/saved it into notepad and lost the url to the website. I tried looking for it but after a brief search couldn't find it. Some of the same information is available under the wikipedia entry on the "History of Texas" but that's not the site I used for my information.

Texas has been under 6 flags (in order of occupation): Spain, France, Mexico, Republic of Texas, Confederacy, United States.

137 posted on 05/01/2006 8:31:28 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (Native Texan, now in SW Ok.)
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To: doug from upland

138 posted on 05/01/2006 8:31:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: doug from upland
Astonishing comments from a TV news reporter.

Actually that was more then just 1 reporter. John and Ken took on the anchor and reporter staff of Fox TV Los Angeles. Looks like someone was passing responses to the anchor babes also. Would be interesting to see who was behind this. Valdez had the local gang bangers giving him talking points. Who gave the other anchor babes their talking points.

139 posted on 05/01/2006 8:32:01 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Borax Queen; Czar; janetgreen; joanie-f; JustPiper; Smartass; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; ..

Ping!


140 posted on 05/01/2006 8:32:54 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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