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To: Spruce

Recommended reading:


Jimmy Carter and the 40 Ayatollahs

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/10/29/170201.shtml

By Middle East standards the Shah of Iran was a progressive democrat. In the eyes of President Jimmy Carter and certain foreign policy factions in the State Department and various think tanks, the Shah represented the heart of darkness.

In an article in May 2002, NewsMax's Chris Ruddy pointed out:

"Remember Carter's human rights program, where he demanded the Shah of Iran step down and turn over power to the Ayatollah Khomeini? "No matter that Khomeini was a madman. Carter had the U.S. Pentagon tell the Shah's top military commanders – about 150 of them – to acquiesce to the Ayatollah and not fight him.

"The Shah's military listened to Carter. All of them were murdered in one of the Ayatollah's first acts.

"By allowing the Shah to fall, Carter created one of the most militant anti-American dictatorships ever."


26 posted on 05/01/2006 11:49:16 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: All

I don't feel like posting this separately, but it's interesting and Iran related:

Eros B (Israeli )spy satellite sends first images

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1145961253748&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

The first high-quality images from the Israeli Eros B spy satellite designed to track Iran's nuclear program arrived at a ground station over the weekend, an official said Sunday.

The satellite, launched last week from Russia, is capable of capturing images on the ground as small as 70 centimeters (27.6 inches).

Satellite pictures published on Sunday showed vivid images of a Syrian dam, helicopters in Sudan and a military port in an unidentified country.

But the satellite's main purpose is to track Iran's nuclear program at a time when Teheran is refusing to comply with UN demands to halt uranium enrichment and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is calling for Israel's destruction.


28 posted on 05/01/2006 11:56:13 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

"By allowing the Shah to fall, Carter created one of the most militant anti-American dictatorships ever."

You're right concerning the above and everything else too. It is my understanding that most of the educated, wealthy Persians said goodbye to their homeland a long time ago.


30 posted on 05/02/2006 12:01:36 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: FairOpinion
If you want me to admit that Jimmy Carter was the worst President in the history of the United States.
you must first admit. This IS a beautiful blonde.

31 posted on 05/02/2006 12:02:47 AM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: FairOpinion
You guys in the "blame Carter" school of propoganda always avoid the hard truth that it was the iranian people who took to the streets and faced death for months who threw the thug out(although here you accidently admit it with the admission that Carter 'allowed' the shah's fall).

The shah wasn't booted simply because Carter said so. He was booted because his own people were tired enough of him and his gestapo to force a change.

None of what I say exonerates Carter...he was the worst POTUS in the 20th Century.

And, using the regime that the iranians got stuck with as an argument for why they should have kept the shah is a straw-man. They thought they would do better and got screwed. Nobody knew what was coming.

Finally, are you or your parents iranian ex-pats enjoying the freedoms that even California offers?

74 posted on 05/02/2006 6:11:29 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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