"Dad Was Fine When I Came Out of Closet" -- Mary Cheney

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[pollyannaish]

Exactly: Just because he doesn't like you (the msm) doesn't mean he doesn't like anyone. Ha!

[MineralMan]

"And how should children feel for completely disappointing their parents and going against what the parents believe? It's a two-way street."

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It is, indeed, a two-way street, mlcnnnn. Love works both ways. Our children may not be who we dreamed they would be. They may not act as we would wish.

Our offspring may also not have parents who are what parents should be. Parents may not act as they should.

Disappointment. I'm sure most parents are disappointed in their children from time to time. Having a child who is gay is not the end of the world, and should not be the end of the relationship. That's just nuts.

I have an uncle on my wife's side. He's dying of kidney failure, and his wife is not well, either. They have three children. One of them is a gay man. The other two are daughters. They've always treated their son well, along with his partner of 20 years.

Now, guess who is taking care of them in their old age and infirmity? Not the daughters, although they love their parents. They have families of their own to deal with. The son has taken a leave of absence from his job as a project manager for a large corporation. He spends his days now at his parents' house, helping care for his father.

Do not reject a gay child. You will never forgive yourself.

[pollyannaish]

Amen.

[JohnLongIsland]

how i wish this man would run for POTUS.

[Freedom_no_exceptions]

When they stand before God one day, will it matter that it felt real nice to look the other way?

Admittedly, I'm atheist, but...

Suggesting the Cheneys will go to hell for not turning away their daughter does not jibe with ANYTHING I ever learned of Christian theology.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

So you would never judge your children for anything except judging? What about their grades? Will you judge them if they bring home failing grades? Skip school? Use drugs? Get arrested? Commit a crime? Yell curses at you? Something? Surely there is something you would judge them on, or what use are you as a parent? Good parents care about their children's moral character.

The lesbian you speak of must understand that she can choose her immorality but she can't choose other people's response to it. I am sure her parents would welcome her back if she starts living right. They would rejoice, I'll bet you. But they should not have to ignore their beliefs for the relationship. Clearly you do not expect the daughter to ignore her lust for women in order to restore the relationship? Why should the parents have to ignore their principles? It works both ways.

It's one thing if the child is underage, but quite another if they are adults.

[iluvlucy]

"You love your kids not matter what they do."

While Miss Cheney's sin does not reach the level of some, I do think it is fair to notice than one too many parents feel just as you do. Is it unsporting of me to notice the quotes of all the serial killers who "love" their monsters for children?

Some of them have gotten out right mad should anyone would suggest their children are anything but wonderful people.

I had a brother that went AWOL while in the Navy. I was just little but I remember my retired Chief of a father politely telling him he has a choice. Go back and face the Skipper or stay at home and wait for the police to pick him up. He said that with his hands on the telephone. The message was clear my brother went back that to his ship that night. And my father was the soft permissive one of the parents.

There is a saying "Love the man but hate the sin." It seems to be forgotten these days.

[little jeremiah]

Your generalization makes me wonder about you.

The situation with Alan Keyes and his daughter is not parallel. IIRC, his daughter is very rebellious in other ways as well.

[MineralMan]

"So you would never judge your children for anything except judging? What about their grades? Will you judge them if they bring home failing grades? Skip school? Use drugs? Get arrested? Commit a crime? Yell curses at you? Something? Surely there is something you would judge them on, or what use are you as a parent? Good parents care about their children's moral character."

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Good parents teach their children. They correct their mistakes. They help them understand.

GOOD PARENTS DO NOT CUT THEIR CHILDREN OFF!

Parents who do that are not good parents.

A parent can certainly disapprove of a child's behavior, even when that child is an adult. A parent can, and should, express that disapproval. However, a parent who simply rejects a child for something like this is stupid beyond belief. It is an action that cannot be recalled. It is an action that will follow the parent to his or her grave.

Homosexuality is a sin, according to most religions. So is adultery. So are many things. Rejecting a child for their choice or genetic coding for homosexuality is ridiculous.

Love your children. Chide them, but don't reject them. If you reject them, you will sorrow over it.

[RushCrush]

Who cares about what her Dad thinks, what about The Village? /Hillary Clintoon logic

[sinkspur]

The lesbian you speak of must understand that she can choose her immorality but she can't choose other people's response to it. I am sure her parents would welcome her back if she starts living right. They would rejoice, I'll bet you. But they should not have to ignore their beliefs for the relationship. Clearly you do not expect the daughter to ignore her lust for women in order to restore the relationship? Why should the parents have to ignore their principles? It works both ways.

"Principles" don't amount to a hill of beans if one ignores the great commandment: love others as I have loved you.

Parents who turn their back on a gay child need to grow up and learn what love really is.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Not entirely. I would equate the sheep with the homo thing. Both are totally unnatural. The child thing is even more disgusting to me because you are talking about someone too young to consent -- a victim. But premises are premises. If morality doesn't count then all three are morally equivalent. Age of consent is a moral restraint. You have no right to judge it otherwise.

[Jeff Gordon]

Her mother must have already known John Kerry and John Edwards back then.

Excellent post.

[little jeremiah]

I know someone, very conservative, whose (adult) child is homosexual. The parent would love to maintain contact but the child refuses to maintain a relationship solely because of the parent's "homophobia" even though the parent never, ever even brings up the topic.

In fact, other members of the family refuse to speak or write to this person because they are intolerant of "homophobia". Even though the parent in question never, ever mentions anything about homosexuality.

So the shoe can be on the other foot as well.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

I didn't say they were going to hell or heaven. I just asked you if it will matter.

[mpackard]

Well, I'm the mom of a gay daughter. It was a sad and tormented day that she was outed (against her will by a little high school punk)I had a fit, a tantrum, I cried and I screamed and then I calmed down, I accepted it and now we are as close as ever. I'm not Cher, and we wont be having a bunch of family dinners and when she's in my home she respects my beliefs on the subject. But the real story is that she's my precious (big) baby and you always love your kids.

[conserv13]

The situation with Alan Keyes and his daughter is not parallel. IIRC, his daughter is very rebellious in other ways as well.

You're right, but then no two situations are completely alike. I was just trying to say that the Cheneys were much more supportive than other parents in similar situations.

I have several gay friends who are good people. I don't like the 'in your face' gays but generally they don't bother me.

[durasell]

Gotta be said, so I'll say it. You did the right thing. I know a lot of gay folks who were tossed from their homes. Although many have become quite successful, they still have the scars.