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New Poll: Americans Prefer House Approach on Immigration
U.S. Newswire ^ | 5-3-2006 | Steven Camarota

Posted on 05/03/2006 7:45:44 PM PDT by nckerr

WASHINGTON, May 3 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A new Zogby poll of likely voters, using neutral language (i.e., avoiding the words "amnesty" or "illegal alien"), finds that Americans prefer the House of Representatives' enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration. The poll was conducted for the Center for Immigration Studies. Complete results are on line at:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/2006poll.html.

-- On immigration generally, Americans want less, not more, immigration. Only 26 percent said immigrants were assimilating fine and that immigration should continue at current levels, compared to 67 percent who said immigration should be reduced so we can assimilate those already here.

-- While the Senate is considering various bills that would increase legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year, only 2 percent of Americans believe current immigration is too low. This was true for virtually every grouping in the survey by ethnicity, income, age, religion, region, party, or ideology.

-- When offered by itself, there is strong support for the House bill: 69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told that it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement, while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- Support for the House approach was widespread, with 81 percent of Republicans, 72 percent of independents, 57 percent of Democrats, and 53 percent of Hispanics saying it was good or very good idea.

-- When offered by itself, there is also some support for the Senate approach, though not as much as for the House bill: 42 percent said the Senate approach was a good or very good idea when told it would allow illegal immigrants to apply for legal status provided they met certain criteria, and it would significantly increase legal immigration and increase enforcement of immigration laws; 50 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- There were few groups in which a majority supported the Senate plan, even when presented by itself. Exceptions included Hispanics, 62 percent of whom said it was a good or very good idea, and the most liberal voters (progressives), 54 percent of whom approved of it.

-- When given three choices (House approach, Senate approach, or mass deportation), the public tends to reject both the Senate plan and mass deportations in favor of the House bill; 28 percent want the Senate plan, 12 percent want mass deportations, while 56 percent want the House approach.

-- But when given a choice between just the House and Senate approaches, without the choice of mass deportations, the public prefers the House approach 64 percent to 30 percent.

-- One reason the public does not like legalization is that they are skeptical of the need for illegal-immigrant labor. An overwhelming majority of 77 percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just 15 percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs.

-- Another reason the public does not like Senate proposals to legalize illegals and double legal immigration is that 73 percent said they had little or no confidence in the ability of the government to screen these additional applicants to weed out terrorists and criminals.

-- The public also does not accept the argument we have tried and failed to enforce the law: 71 percent felt that past enforcement efforts have been "grossly inadequate," while only 19 percent felt we had made a "real effort" to enforce our laws.

The Center for Immigration Studies is an independent, non-partisan research organization which examines and critiques the impact of immigration on the United States.

http://www.usnewswire.com/


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; hr4437; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrationpoll; immigrationreform; invasionusa; openborders; zogby
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Actually, it wouldn't be that difficult to prove, amazing what shows up when you do an indepth audit in a corporation.


41 posted on 05/03/2006 8:18:23 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse; cabojoe
The illegal aliens decide to call your bluff and don't leave.

So, what percentage do you think would get stopped for any infraction of the law?

That straw-man argument is really getting old.

If employers are given a straightforward way to check the immigration status of new hires, and face punitive fines if they're caught cheating, the pressure will be on the illegals to return because they just can't find work. Nobody deported, nobody incarcerated, and we won't have to listen to your spurious argument any more.

Sheesh.

42 posted on 05/03/2006 8:18:26 PM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Hello,

Well, I admit it, you have sparked my curiousity. What do you propose? What is your solution?

Glad to be here, MOgirl
43 posted on 05/03/2006 8:19:10 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: revelatorman
Just answer the question, willya? What percentage of illegals do you propose to incarcerate?

I swear, there must be some reason everyone runs away screaming like banshees when the question gets asked...

44 posted on 05/03/2006 8:19:18 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: nckerr
I was going to ask where the "Captain Obvious" cartoon guys are until I read this:

-- Support for the House approach was widespread, with 81 percent of Republicans, 72 percent of independents, 57 percent of Democrats, and 53 percent of Hispanics saying it was good or very good idea.

I figured 40%, not over half.

45 posted on 05/03/2006 8:19:57 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: randog

I love Sheriff Joe -- we need more American's in positions of power with his attitude; I might mention that he wasn't always this concerned about the illegal problem, but it's become such a crime issue here in AZ...


46 posted on 05/03/2006 8:20:14 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

No, I would favor a more pro-active program of trying to catch more and deporting them immediately back to their country of origin. No release, no future court date, just bye-bye.


47 posted on 05/03/2006 8:20:36 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: MOgirl
Right now, I merely propose that you answer the question I asked--namely, how many illegals do you propose to incarcerate as felons under the proposed law that makes illegal presence in the US a felony?

Why is giving a simple answer to a simple question so hard?

48 posted on 05/03/2006 8:20:39 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: DTogo
No, I would favor a more pro-active program of trying to catch more and deporting them immediately back to their country of origin. No release, no future court date, just bye-bye.

Followed by "Hello again" a few weeks later.

Like I said, it's catch very few and release.

Felonies that have zero punishment attached to them are not enforceable.

So, how many illegal aliens do you propose to incarcerate under this proposal?

49 posted on 05/03/2006 8:22:28 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Sir Gawain
Hello,

That's right, my goodness, I had forgotten. So tomorrow, when I hold up the local 7-11, I have the excuse that it is really too HARD to uphold the law. And when someone breaks into my home and steals from me, by God, I won't be upset when that person is rewarded for it, they just wanted a better life. I think I have it all figured out now, thanks!

Glad to be here, MOgirl
50 posted on 05/03/2006 8:24:35 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

So what's your answer! Just let it go! Employers who knowingly hire illegals can be prosecuted and have been prosecuted.


51 posted on 05/03/2006 8:25:36 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Are you saying there is nothing we can do about the invaders and the outlaw employers so we should surrender?


52 posted on 05/03/2006 8:25:51 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Starve The Beast
Why does everyone go to such lengths to avoid answering a simple question?
53 posted on 05/03/2006 8:26:20 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: nckerr; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...


HR4437 Ping!

Smart people go for border enforcement!

54 posted on 05/03/2006 8:27:04 PM PDT by HiJinx (Remember the Maine! Remember the Alamo! Remember Herndon!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Zero; they should be sent back to where they came from.


55 posted on 05/03/2006 8:27:14 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too--Weinie)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Just answer the question, willya? What percentage of illegals do you propose to incarcerate?
why are you asking that stupid question over and over- arrest as many as you find! At least enough until they and employers get the hint. How many murderers and rapist and burglars and home invaders should we arrest??? How about until the number dwindles!
56 posted on 05/03/2006 8:27:20 PM PDT by nckerr (Proud Christian Conservative Soldier)
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To: lonedawg
Employers who knowingly hire illegals can be prosecuted and have been prosecuted.

Not easily, and not very many. It must be proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that a company knowingly hired illegals.

It's very tough to prove, especially when the illegal has all the official papers the government says he needs.

57 posted on 05/03/2006 8:27:51 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: lonedawg

Why does everyone go to such great lengths to refuse to answer a simple question? How many illegal aliens do you propose to incarcerate?


58 posted on 05/03/2006 8:27:56 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: HiJinx

Keep sending your representatives bricks in the mail as a hint.


59 posted on 05/03/2006 8:28:17 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
One more time: how many illegal aliens do you propose to incarcerate once they call your bluff?

O'Reilly had that really cool Sheriff from AZ on tonight. He's going to lock up all the illegals he can find in tents by using posse-men. O'Reilly asked him what he would do if he caught 20,000 and the Sheriff replied, "I'll build tents from here to the border if I have to."

60 posted on 05/03/2006 8:28:37 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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