Posted on 05/05/2006 4:24:36 AM PDT by mathprof
Need an antidote to the Moussaoui verdict? Go out this weekend to see "United 93."
Zacarias Moussaoui is lucky the jurors at his sentencing trial weren't allowed to see the movie "United 93" the day before reaching a verdict. If they had, rather than handing him life in prison, it is likely that one or more of the jurors would have come out of the box to deliver the death sentence himself -- just as the four doomed men on Flight 93 charged their hijackers to stop its fanatic pilots from flying the airliner into another American building.
Some will say the Moussaoui life sentence merely proves that we in the U.S. are beyond biblical justice, beyond an eye for an eye, even if our Islamic enemies do not bother to claim any grievance larger than resentment to justify the most startling slaughter of innocents all over the world. This argument -- that the refusal to impose the death penalty on Moussaoui shows "we are not like them" -- might have been entertainable before September 11. It may no longer be. [snip]
Our sense of normalcy may not be in our best interest.
As an example, one thought that occurred in the hour after seeing "United 93" had to do with the recent debate in the U.S. over the warrantless wiretapping of suspected phone calls between terrorists. In that hour, this "debate" seemed quite otherworldly. It is unlikely that in the first six months after September 11 Sen. Arlen Specter would ever have thought to intone that the wiretapping program was "in flat violation" of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. But he does now. Times change.
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Maybe not, but it won't matter. The Liberal/Socialist parties in Canada are being reduced to rump status with small power bases in Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver. Their power and influence is receeding, not expanding. The new government is actively pursuing terrorists and their organizations.
Several recent stories illustrate how things are changing in Canada.
1) It came to light, recently, that the the CIA and FBI might be engaged in wiretapping terrorists in Canada, perhaps with collusion of Canadian authorities. That was a ONE DAY STORY that DIED. Nobody cared.
2) The new government is packing ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS onto airplanes and deporting them to their country of origin. Very little outcry, in fact the majority of Canadians agree with this policy.
3) Prime Minister Harper made a trip to Afghanistan to support the Canadian troops fighting AQ in Khandahar. There have been some deaths among the soldiers, and there will be more. The government announced that there will be no mourning ceremonies for individual deaths and the media will not be allowed to use these occasions for propaganda purposes. The media howled, the public agreed with the PM.
4) The PM has started to insert the phrase "God Bless Canada" at the end of his speeches. Once again, the media is upset, but except for the athiests and agnostics, the public is not objecting.
As a result of these, and many other actions, the Conservative government's approval rating has gone up since the election. We expect another election next year that should result in a substantial Conservative majority government. I think this Conservative governmentis standing tall and gaining approval every day.
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Moussaoui will not be extradited, will gradually be forgotten and will likely figure out a way to kill himself.
He spends his one hour in the yard alone. A guard would have to get him.
"To dedicate the act of murdering a stewardess, pilot or passenger to Allah".....is the ultimate blasphemy.
"if our moral betters aren't going to let Saddam's torturers rot in Abu Ghraib, if they aren't going to let the CIA's most important al Qaeda captives rot in 'secret' foreign prisons, they certainly aren't going to let Moussaoui rot in Florence, Colo."It is the Left--which flatters itself our moral betters--that is the fundamental enemy of America, the enabler of the enemies of the U.S.A., and a fifth column. The Democrat Party is its Political Arm, the "Mainstream Newsmedia" its Propaganda Machine."9 of 12 jurors would vote that Moussaoui's childhood was "dysfunctional" and 'mitigating.'"
This cannot be overemphasized.
The Left is hubritic and delusional, and, if Leftists should prevail, their hubris and denial will inevitably lead to tragedy and destruction.
And it is important to remember this:
30 to 40 years from now, very few Americans will remember who Mousaoui is. Hell, many have forgot about 9/11.
Even now, few can spell his name.
Clinton never pardoned Pollard. The justice system operates independently of political considerations (or at least it should). Nobody in al-Qaeda gives a damn about these people. Ramsi Yousef (WTC bomber in 1993) has been at a Supermax for eleven years, and there have been no efforts to leverage him.
The Islamists know that we will never yield to their demands.
>Maybe the trial could have been transferred to Texas, instead of VA<
Keep in mind, the trial was held in NORTHERN Virginia, which has fewer native Virginians living within its boundaries than any other part of the state.
Had Moussaoui been tried in the southwest part of the state, he'd be on Death Row, instead of serving life with possibility of pardon by President Hitlary Rotten Clintoon.
Yes, the anti-Bush sentiment and the other Leftis contentions--cowardice, denial of the existence of evil, and a shallow, hubritic sense of morality.
Turn the Statue of Liberty into a missile, shackle Moussaoui to it and send it back to them...
I really glad to hear all this about Canada. Now can we kiss and make up?
BS. As a retired Foreign Service Officer with 28 years in the State Department, former naval officer, and Vietnam vet, I find your characterization totally false and offensive. There is a wall in the State Department lobby listing the State Department personnel who have died for their country right through 2006. I know and served with some of them. Questioning their loyalty and patriotism is despicable.
FYI: The State Department will not/not control the transfer issue. The WH and Congress will make any such decision.
I was ( God forgive me) hoping for the very same treatment but then I heard that he will not be allowed contact with other inmates. Maybe in many years but not now. Thats why I came up with the tv idea. Since hes muslim I figure anything thats another religion would really make him mad. Or perhaps horrible music 24/7 would be fitting. We are just too humane to ba$tards like this monster.
Why would the French even want this guy back?
LOL. In Arabic?
No, I meant here on this board, and also in the juror's transcript where someone hand-lettered "Zacarius".
He is a French citizen so I guess we go with the name on his passport, but the arabic names are phonetically transferred into our alphabet. There are a number of variations on how Mohammed is spelled. AQ the same way.
There were some irritants in bilateral relations but the real problem was the liberal Canadian leadership that used anti-Americanism to help them retain power. The conservatives were elected on a platform of getting along with our neighbors. Anti-Americanism does not get you elected in Canada anymore. Pretty simple, eh?
Additionally, our new PM solved a long standing trade dispute in three months that the liberals couldn't solve in 12 years. Perhaps negotiating with the Americans works better than abusing them.
The people of Canada, outside a minority in the three largest cities, never had anything against the US. With the lumber issue behind us, a surging Canadian dollar to stoke the electorates pride, rising US dependence on Canadian energy supplies and common interests in defeating terrorism, you will appreciate a very strong American ally in the north.
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