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Officials disclaim Bulletin 'tipping' report (Sara Carter's follow-up report)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/10/2006 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 05/10/2006 1:48:26 AM PDT by M. Thatcher

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To: r9etb
There was no "discussion." It was more like a mass mouth-foaming. The 'single-issue knee-jerkers' jumped on this like flies on poop.

I read the threads. People on both sides gave as good as they got. Your loving comment is a case in point.

41 posted on 05/10/2006 10:56:19 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Howlin
I don't CARE about the Mexican government

You really should. They are corrupted, racist and dirty as heck. So bad that there's a good chance they could go socialist/communist in the near future. To have a government like that right next to us could be a major concern.

42 posted on 05/10/2006 10:58:56 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: jmc813
To have a government like that right next to us could be a major concern.

And an unintended consequence of completely shutting off the flow of workers from there to here might well be to start the requisite revolution.

As it stands now, we're a safety valve for those Mexicans who happen to have the gumption to do something to better their conditions. You can be sure that Vincente Fox knows that....

There's a lot more to this debate than the "build a wall" types are willing to admit.

43 posted on 05/10/2006 11:03:33 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: M. Thatcher

bump for publicity


44 posted on 05/10/2006 11:04:49 AM PDT by VOA
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To: yellowdoghunter
Kinda like the different stories that come out everyday about the Duke rape case?

No, more like the different stories that came every day from the Schindler family re: Terri Schiavo.

45 posted on 05/10/2006 11:07:42 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger
I have read reports and heard interviews about the ACLU shadowing the Minutemen watching for "civil rights violations". I'll do some checking and post links I find. This whole thing reeks of set-up.

I've heard those reports too. ACLU/leftist types may be passing the MM locations on to the Mexican consuls in LA and elsewhere who in turn pass it to their bosses in Mexico. The USBP has deniability but their upper echelons are probably not unhappy with whoever is passing the info to the Mexicans.

46 posted on 05/10/2006 11:08:43 AM PDT by CedarDave (Gen. McCaffrey: "There is a rapidly growing animosity" among U.S. troops in Iraq toward the press...)
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To: A CA Guy
There seems to be a charge and denial. Can't wait to see which is confirmed.

Me, too ... I'm not sure why immediately believing the charge is "knee-jerk" but immediately believing the denial is not.

47 posted on 05/10/2006 11:18:03 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: M. Thatcher

In other words, the Border Patrol does not report directly to the Mexican government, but another department of the U.S. government DOES.


48 posted on 05/10/2006 11:18:59 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Could you post that in Japanese?

:>)


49 posted on 05/10/2006 11:20:12 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: r9etb
There's a lot more to this debate than the "build a wall" types are willing to admit.

I disagree. I think the "build a wall" crowd is the only one looking at the big picture. Yes, we can have a guest worker program that benefits both us and the immigrants, but unless we have a sealed border, it won't work. The border must be secured first.

50 posted on 05/10/2006 11:21:21 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: M. Thatcher

>>Scott James, a former Tucson agent, resigned after eight years of service in February, citing a lack of support for agents by the Department of Homeland Security.

He said that U.S. Border Patrol officials provided office space inside their headquarters to Mexican consulate officials, allowed the consulate to dictate the agents' activities, and gave the consulate information on ongoing investigations. <<

An allegation like that should warrent investigation.


51 posted on 05/10/2006 11:22:35 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: M. Thatcher
Ramirez said he revealed the location of his base camp only to local and federal officials. The Mexican document gives the exact location of his group's site, which was on private property near San Diego.

Doesn't mean the Border Patrol, or the Feds gave Mexican officials the info. Could have been a local person who might have mentioned it to someone else who got the info the the Mexican govt.

52 posted on 05/10/2006 11:24:44 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

My point exactly. Stories that change with the days. We all participate in them, even you. This story is no different.


53 posted on 05/10/2006 12:38:50 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Oliver Optic

Well there are two kinds of denials in government.

#1 a real total denial because it didn't happen.
#2 a word game where it happened, but they call it another name.


54 posted on 05/10/2006 12:41:08 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Oliver Optic; Howlin
I'm not sure why immediately believing the charge is "knee-jerk" but immediately believing the denial is not.

Helluva point there Ollie!

What do you think, Howlin?

55 posted on 05/10/2006 12:41:54 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Stories that change with the days.

As long as those changes reinforce the preconceived biases of the single-issue folks, the internal contradictions are ignored.

As I found out, trying to point out what the article was really talking about is not particularly welcome.

56 posted on 05/10/2006 12:44:28 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: r9etb
And an unintended consequence of completely shutting off the flow of workers from there to here might well be to start the requisite revolution.

As it stands now, we're a safety valve for those Mexicans who happen to have the gumption to do something to better their conditions. You can be sure that Vincente Fox knows that....

Frankly, I wonder if some brainiac on our side hasn't crunched the numbers and determined at least some sectors of our economy are dependent on skirting laws that govern hiring American citizens.

57 posted on 05/10/2006 12:44:56 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: papertyger
What do you think, Howlin?

I think it's because most of us were willing to wait for the OTHER side of the story before jumping to conclusions.

Of course, we're not pushing agenda, so we don't have a vested interest in one side being true to the exclusion of the other.

58 posted on 05/10/2006 12:48:56 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

No kidding.


59 posted on 05/10/2006 12:49:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
As I found out, trying to point out what the article was really talking about is not particularly welcome.

Can you give any reason why your vetting process is superior to Michelle Malkin's? She seems to be running with this on her new endeavor "vent" which is less than two weeks old. I'd think she'd be kind of cautious with her credibility at this point.

60 posted on 05/10/2006 12:51:25 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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