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To: B4Ranch
I posted something this morning on what is now a dead thread. This looks like a good place to put it. I'll change just a few words but not the message.

The sting of deceit is much deeper when it comes from those whom you trusted & expected to do better. We though are the overlords of our government and must take responsibility for it. We a free people have the authority to hire and fire our leaders at election time. We have lost site of the fact they work for us. They take that fact for granted.

Right now the anger of many in this nation is running deep. Persons like carpenters are seeing their standard of living being lowered. I posted this the other night. It wasn't so long ago in America even a ditch digger with a pick and shovel could provide a living for his family on one income. That day is gone right now.

There is a division and it is deep between the working people blue collar who depend on their labor skills to live on and ones who live by investments in stocks, are high on corporate ladders, and reap the benefits of cheap foreign labor legal and illegal at the expense of their neighbors.

We have good high skilled Americans in Engineering fields and the Electronics/Computer Technology related fields being displaced either by outsourcing or imported workers. To them this is a real and serious issue also. Corporate bottom dollars have taken over the leadership of our nation. It is true in many areas including Health Care which as best as I can tell is also being purposely destroyed for National Health Care to be overseen by large corporate interest.

There are conspiracy and there are conspiracy theories. When it's your neighbor being affected it is conspiracy theory and he's over reacting. When it's you however being on the losing end you see the conspiracy more clearly. Much of this is conspiracy. It is a deliberate effort being made by globalist to put this nation into at the least a hemispheric government and economy and at the most One World Government. Those of us who are Christians were warned this was to happen.

I don't believe there has been a deeper distrust in our nations leadership in general in nearly 150 years going back to the pre-Civil War. Even the Great Depression people relied on God, Self, & the moral character of their neighbor and those whom we elected to do what was right for the good of the nation.

Individuals who either by adversity or by sheer anger and outrage have forged much of the good that came in the form of the founding of our nation. They were not a majority as many would have us believe. Many in this nation were perfectly content to live under tyranny of the crown because of their secure personal positions with the crown or out and out fear of it. Thankfully however enough were not that content.

The signers of the Documents gave their word Their Sacred Honor to stand against the tyranny of the day. Most lost all they had. Some of them as well who didn't sign lost personal fortunes and are some of the biggest traditional investment names we know today. None were repaid.

I don't think anyone is asking anyone in here to pick up arms and take over a nation. There simply is no need for it especially at this point in time. The most effective weapon we have besides our weapons we have in our home is our voice and our vote. The framers gave us that to carry on their name and that Sacred Honor.

It's disheartening to see fear of political parties being used by career politicians to literally divide our nation and scare voters into being enablers to their wrongs simply because their wrongs are lesser wrongs than the other mans So They Say.

There is nothing that gets this old Tennessee Hillbilly's back up quicker than to be threatened by fear or intimidation by someone to let them walk all over me or mine. I don't care if it's a political party or a Labor Union doing it as the original Minutemen of this nation stated "Don't Tread On Me".

One poster whom I thought was wise enough to know better has called the Minutemen a joke. Calling them such calls the ones who founded this nation such as well. Their dedication to freedom and this nation is not a joke.

Yes we are a nation of many with room for plenty. Tell me posters does your own home no matter how large it is not have a limit to the number of persons who can live in it? Is their not a limit to the number of mouths you can feed and persons you can provide for? What do you do when uninvited guest or even invited ones start eating you out of house and home and run up bills so extreme that your children will be paying the debt? What do you do?

We are forgetting something these are not an oppressed people except for their complete lack of will to stand against the corruption and tyranny of their own homeland. They do live in a nation free enough to vote their own future. As such we owe them nothing especially not at the expense of our children and grandchildren future. That is not ours to give away! It is not morally right to enslave them by doing this to our nation. If anyone thinks they are coming here to be good voting conservatives I have Arizona Swamp land to sell. They are Socialist leaving a Socialist nation to import it here and take over. They plainly say as much & I believe them.

To the Minutemen I say Thank You. To ones like Travis McGee who tried to sound the alarm to some very real not so civil possibilities that may be coming if this goes unresolved I say Thank You. To those who wish to enable tyrants from both parties to continue us on this present destructive course due to your greedy personal gains on the stock market or for selfish political reasons & ambition to you I say you have my utmost contempt. IOW party officals or officers saying all is well etc.

This nation has a congress problem much bigger than any other branch of our government. It must be brought back to Constitutional Order. That means sacrifice. It means judging individual candidates based on their merit and what they say and do rather than their party membership as being fit for the HONOR to serve in our congress. Yes that means supporting Conservative Independents as well.

We have an elective system to bring change. I want to remind people that the GOP was born of division of a previous political party. It took more or less than 7 years to have a sitting POTUS in office. That was in an age of limited media and communication so don't hand me the it takes decades to do it nonsense. It was born of Dems, Whigs, and several Third Parties and it is called the GOP. It can be replaced in the manner in which it came to be.

No one holding public office nor any party is entitled to their position because of their party status it must like trust be earned. Actually it is a trust and our leaders have betrayed it. Much trust in todays political parties has been betrayed and so far only a hand full are willing within them to stand up and say what is right. Those unfortunately usually face the ridicule of both party and some who are so blind they can't see beyond a very warped political party loyalty. It's our nation to keep or loose and time is growing short on that matter.

I likely have a lesser formal education than many in here. My knowledge of government came from high school in a community that Political Correctness had not yet destroyed. I understand how it is supposed to work and I understand how it is with prejudice by many of our elected being destroyed. I don't fear DEMs and I don't fear Republicans. They put their pants on and breath GOD's air the same as me. I however loathe the tyrants from both of the parties who have led our nation to this point. I will not join ones wishing to help them continue it either. To those you will NEVER receive my vote again. I do not vote on fear or intimidation so don't go there. I refuse with all my being to vote for more of the same. When enough persons get angry enough to do no less change will come and a government restored.

130 posted on 05/11/2006 5:43:18 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: DollyCali
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132 posted on 05/11/2006 5:45:29 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: cva66snipe

That's a keeper; well done.


185 posted on 05/11/2006 9:34:04 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: cva66snipe

All those lofty sounding words just to say you will be perfectly happy when the Democrats regain power and President Hillary Clinton gets to appoint the next round of America hating abortionist Supreme Court justices? That'll teach us all a lesson, eh? What a waste of pixels.


203 posted on 05/11/2006 12:13:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: cva66snipe

The Beast is fed by career politicians.

We need TERM LIMITS!


234 posted on 05/11/2006 7:12:02 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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