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Rock Chunk Falls From Mount St. Helens
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/12/06 | Peggy Andersen - ap

Posted on 05/12/2006 9:26:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SEATTLE - The sheer rock fin emerging in Mount St. Helens' crater lost about a third of its northern face recently, but because lava keeps pushing to the surface, the height remained the same Thursday — around 330 feet.

A burst of seismic activity at the mountain Sunday night likely corresponded to the collapse. "Certainly a big piece fell off — something like 65,000 cubic yards," said geologist Dan Dzurisin at the Cascades Volcano Observatory in Vancouver, Wash., about 50 miles from the mountain and 150 miles south of Seattle.

Bad weather had iced over scientists' cameras on the rim of the volcano, so the rockfall wasn't recorded on film, he said.

Now the fin is about the same height as it was before, but rock that was previously in the middle is now at the top.

"At that height, it becomes unstable and ... begins to collapse under gravity," he said. Boulders and finer rubble from the crumbling top surround the base of the fin.

This is the seventh rock feature formed by lava in the crater since the 8,364-foot mountain reawakened with a drumfire of low-level seismic activity in September 2004.

The crater was formed by the southwest Washington volcano's deadly May 18, 1980, eruption that killed 57 people and blasted about 1,300 feet off the then-9,677-foot peak.

The most recent lava feature started growing in mid-October, Dzurisin said.

The emerging rock takes different shapes, depending on what it meets at the surface.

At the moment it's like toothpaste coming out of a tube. "As it emerges it's having to deal with its own debris, so we're seeing steeper-sided features looking more like spines," the geologist said.

The pace of the lava extrusion has slowed since October 2004, he added. For the past few months, St. Helens has been pushing lava to the surface at a pace of about 1 meter per second, down from 6 meters a second.

It's not yet clear whether it's slowing to a stop, or has reached a pace it can maintain for years or even decades, Dzurisin said.

"St. Helen's loves to build domes," he said. "It's built many in its history and we suspect some of those went on for decades.

"We might be in that situation — and then again we might not."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: chunk; falls; mount; rock; sthelens
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To: ReformedBeckite

I'm sure the MSM that is pushing the concept that the Rocky mountains, etc took millions of years to be formed is not going to like what is happening at Mount ST. Helens




GREAT point!


21 posted on 05/12/2006 10:55:05 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Strategerist

How many assumptions are involved in all your raked over theorizing?


22 posted on 05/12/2006 10:57:04 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: ReformedBeckite

Well directly they haven't mention anything, but your typical liberal believes in evolution and an earth that was formed over billions of years ago, vs the Creation opinion that the earth was created by God like say 10,000 years ago or what ever the Creationist figure is.



judging by some of the posters here, a lot of conservatives believe that too. Of course a conservative who's not a social conservative is no conservative at all.


23 posted on 05/12/2006 10:57:45 PM PDT by balch3
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To: NormsRevenge

i remember back in the 70's it had what's known as a "shoestring" glacier- a long thin strip of glacier going down the cone. it's a rare form and was destroyed in the '80 eruption.


24 posted on 05/12/2006 11:04:38 PM PDT by Riverine
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To: ReformedBeckite
I don't want this discussion to move away from it's original purpose and get into a Creation vs. Evolution debate.

Then why the heck did *you* bring it up out of the blue?

Anyway, the tripe you've posted is so nonsensical that it actually is really a standout post. And that's not a compliment.

25 posted on 05/12/2006 11:10:05 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: balch3
GREAT point!

Actually, it's a really, really stupid comment, revealing his total ignorance (or denial) of even the most basic, rudimentary geology. But whatever floats your ark, I guess.

26 posted on 05/12/2006 11:12:23 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"It's all Bush's fault!"

No. Actually I did this.

27 posted on 05/12/2006 11:15:47 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Strategerist

Knock off the insults.


28 posted on 05/12/2006 11:29:25 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: NormsRevenge

I live in Vancouver, WA. The number of people talking about this is ZERO. Barely covered in a sidebar in the local rag.


29 posted on 05/12/2006 11:33:02 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Peanut Gallery

Oh look, it's teething.


30 posted on 05/12/2006 11:37:59 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (The economy is just terrible. My staff has "only" tripled in 18 months.)
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To: blowfish
I actually am interested in a view that satisfies BOTH schools of thought. There are a few folks out there that believe the KJ version of Genesis 1.1 is inaccurate and that the word for "Created" can also be interpreted as "laid to waste" or something like "wiped clean". Thus perhaps the earth has been here for millions or billions of years, who knows for sure? Then about 6,000-10,000 years ago, the whole place was remade complete with humans in Gods image. Did humans exist before? Maybe..That sure would explain skulls found in coal mines wouldn't it? It also explains the sudden appearance of civilization and cities. I'll probably just wind up offending both sides, but I don't think the truth is 100% one or the other. I don't believe evolution is the answer, but I certainly don't believe the earth is only a few thousand years old either. It's time for some reverent thinking outside the box for answers that fit what we see AND what we believe. Oh and please be kind to each other.
31 posted on 05/12/2006 11:58:14 PM PDT by BRK
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To: NormsRevenge

Such great pictures! Thanks, I love to see this stuff.


32 posted on 05/13/2006 12:09:52 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Amazing photos! The volcano erupted not upward, but sideways!


33 posted on 05/13/2006 3:32:15 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: sageb1
Our cars were covered from ash in Wisconsin.

I was on my way out to Montana on May 19, 1980.

They would not let anyone go beyond Butte, Montana the following night because the ash was so bad.

In Great Falls, Montana people had to use hoses to wash it off their cars. A month later it was being sold in bags for $5.00. Amazing!

34 posted on 05/13/2006 4:04:55 AM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: Northern Yankee
"A month later it was being sold in bags for $5.00. Amazing!"

I was going to mention that somewhere we have a baggie with ash in it. It was free, as we scraped it off the car. :)

35 posted on 05/13/2006 5:09:56 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: kayak

Thanks. Collapse was bound to happen; this didn't generate much of a pyroclastic flow (if any).


36 posted on 05/15/2006 11:18:45 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: ReformedBeckite

Subduction leads to orogeny.


37 posted on 05/15/2006 11:24:07 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: ReformedBeckite
I'm sure the MSM that is pushing the concept that the Rocky mountains, etc took millions of years to be formed is not going to like what is happening at Mount ST. Helens

Uh, Mt. St. Helens is one volcano. The Rockies stretch for a few thousand miles and are a mix of folded rocks and volcanic rocks that were uplifted, buried to their chins and then uplifted again. So there is no real comparison anyway.

38 posted on 05/15/2006 11:26:59 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: NormsRevenge

Looks like the mother of all grey teeth incisors.


39 posted on 05/15/2006 11:33:03 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (The social contract is breaking down.)
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To: ReformedBeckite
If you take what's been happening on Mount St. Helen in the last couple of years and figure growth rates on the dome, you can see that a mountain would not need millions of years to be formed, but that a mountain or mountain range could be realistically be formed in the Creationist time frame.

Only if the entire range consisted of volcanoes, as is the case with many island chains, and perhaps the Cascades. The Rockies, Himalayas, and other massive ranges, however, are not volcanic, so a different explanation is required to account for them. Plate tectonics is being demonstrated on a fairly frequent basis, so that's a good place to start.

We now return you to regularly scheduled thread.

40 posted on 05/15/2006 11:33:58 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to Islam since 1959.)
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