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Roe attorney: Use abortion to 'eliminate poor'
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| 13 May 2006
Posted on 05/12/2006 11:52:13 PM PDT by Lurker
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You bet Mrs. Dono, and the same logic applies to gun control: Take away guns from all of our law abiding citizens so that only criminals will have them, then you won't have a gun problem.
Now this is why the democraps will never again gain office in the USA unless they get a grip! The only mistake is that we do not spread the news enough.
I mean this thinking you have indicated so demurely is on the level of all those "dumb" blond jokes that one can read by simply doing a web search.
Abortion, gun control, health care, illegal aliens, pull out the troops from Iraq, CIA 5th columnist interference with presidential policies by seditious leaking, all those Democrap positions have the same thinking.
I have a theory: George W. Bush rarely defends himself or his policies because the Pubbies do not want the Democraps to smarten up, assuring future electoral victories!!!
May the democraps continue to hoist themselves onto their own petards!!!
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posted on
05/13/2006 2:26:07 PM PDT
by
Candor7
To: Mr. Silverback
Somewhat funny but true, my friend. It's scary as hell.
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posted on
05/13/2006 2:32:12 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
To: cpforlife.org; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; devolve; OXENinFLA; bitt; La Enchiladita; ...
Once a Queen Clinton, always a Queen Clinton
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posted on
05/13/2006 2:36:23 PM PDT
by
Smartass
(Vaya con Dios)
To: Lurker
..the poor you have with you always--as well as godless elitists...
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posted on
05/13/2006 2:52:10 PM PDT
by
WalterSkinner
( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
To: Lurker
Ahh, good old Nazi style Eugenics.
First the poor, then the black and brown races then the conservatives then the Christians leaving us with only, Hillary.
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posted on
05/13/2006 2:54:42 PM PDT
by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
To: Mad Dawg
And after that they just quit reacting?It's probably the best recourse, but some things are just so gobsmackingly absurd they just cry out for rebuttal.
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posted on
05/13/2006 3:01:51 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(I just love that woman.)
To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
This clearly shows that you reject the argument abortion affects crime because statistics don't show that higher abortion rates ion some states don't have a greater affect on crime. Not the way I would word it, but essentially yes (I would clarify that I don't believe abortion lowers crime rates. I wouldn't be too surprised to see the reverse, however, even though some data collected by the previously mentioned researchers would place such an opinion in doubt).
My point is that this is a completely erroneous assumption.
Not according to the scientific method it isn't. If someone comes up with a hypothesis that says "x", and I can give examples that show "not x", that means that "x" is an invalid hypothesis. The researchers assert that more abortions reduce crime rates. But the fact remains that there are quite a few places, outside of the scope of the limited data used by the researchers, where that assertion does not hold. A great number of European communities with increasing abortion rates have also had an accompanying increase in crime. The hypothesis is simply invalid.
The same may be true of abortion. I really don't know, but your statement is flawed in terms of its logic.
I disagree. If the idea that abortions reduced crime was true, then more abortions would reduce more crime. The relationship might not be linear, but it would still show up. The fact that it doesn't show up (except in the suspect initial sample data of the researchers who first advocated the idea) shows that it is an invalid hypothesis.
Statistics aren't science, they are just math. But like any math, they can be used in science. The proper form is to create a hypothesis, then gather data, then test (to confirm or reject the hypothesis, creating a theory). The researchers did a great job coming up with their hypothesis, but they didn't test enough. If there were really causation rather than merely correlation, then the hypothesis would hold for other data sets too, and it doesn't. There are more than enough examples to show increases in crime where abortion has increased, and that alone suggests the hypothesis is invalid in spite of the one or two hand-picked data points selected by the researchers who proposed it.
To: Lurker
In his postscript, Weddington said: "I was co-counsel in Roe v. Wade, [and] have sired zero children and one fetus, the abortion of which was recently recounted by my ex-wife in her book, "A Question of Choice" (Grosset/Putnam, 1992) I had a vasectomy in 1969 and have never had one moment of regret." My initial reaction was thank God for small favors... but then I thought of his murdered child, and I couldn't even think that. What a creep!
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posted on
05/13/2006 3:33:34 PM PDT
by
Chanticleer
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
To: Chanticleer
Creep is too kind by several orders of magnitude.
L
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posted on
05/13/2006 3:37:33 PM PDT
by
Lurker
(50% of the country is not fit to run a convenience store.)
To: Lurker
"eliminate the barely educated, unhealthy and poor segment of our country" by liberalizing abortion laws echoes of Margaret Sanger
To: dasboot
Margret Sanger was an open advocate of eugenics through abortion.
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posted on
05/13/2006 4:32:24 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
To: cpforlife.org; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
and in the book Freekonomics, they state the crime rate is down due to abortion since many of those getting abortions are women from poor, inner-city, minority families.
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posted on
05/13/2006 5:00:02 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic)
To: Petronski
It's probably the best recourse, but some things are just so gobsmackingly absurd they just cry out for rebuttal.Preach!
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posted on
05/13/2006 5:07:34 PM PDT
by
rdb3
(It helps now that I'm no longer young enough to know everything.)
To: Lurker
>> [Beethoven]'s been dead for what, 200+ years
Know what he's doing these day?
De-composing.
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posted on
05/13/2006 5:32:57 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5)Ludwig Minelli 4)nuclear war 3)Ted Bundy 2)Margaret Sanger 1)Eric Pianka.)
To: Coleus
Ramesh Ponnoru (Ponnuru?) demolishes that claim in his book "The Party of Death."
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posted on
05/13/2006 5:33:49 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh 50% less on Mars!)
To: dasboot
don't believe it I don't. Why would they want to destroy their future supply of Democrat voters?
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posted on
05/13/2006 5:36:08 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
To: Tax-chick
thanks, I'll have to read it..
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posted on
05/13/2006 5:38:39 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic)
To: dasboot
don't believe it It's true. Planned Parenthood grabbed the abortion legislation years ago in an attempt to keep the minority population down. Today, it's been expanded to the poor. 85% of all abortion clinics are found in poor and minority neighborhoods. The rest are near by.
The elitists socialists believe in population control. That's also why the euthanasia crowd is overwhelmingly liberal. The poor, disabled, and elderly are considered useless eaters and a burden on the earths resources.
I took a quick look in the FR archives to find you a link that contains the exact words of the Planned Parenthood founder, but I didn't have a lot of time so I gave up.
Hopefully, another FReeper has it in a folder somewhere and will share it with you.
To: Lurker
"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." -- Margaret Sanger
Quoted in a post to me the other day. Sorry, I don't have a source. Does anyone remember this one?
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posted on
05/13/2006 5:49:02 PM PDT
by
T'wit
(Our top bioethicists: 5)Ludwig Minelli 4)nuclear war 3)Ted Bundy 2)Margaret Sanger 1)Eric Pianka.)
To: SUSSA
Margaret SangerThanks for the link. I had it saved once, but cleaned out my files and managed to lose it. It's a great one to use when debating a "non-racist" (a-hem) pro-abort liberal.
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