Posted on 05/12/2006 11:52:13 PM PDT by Lurker
In unearthed letter urged President-elect Clinton to 'reform' country
A letter to Bill Clinton written by the co-counsel who successfully argued the Roe v. Wade decision urged the then-president-elect to "eliminate the barely educated, unhealthy and poor segment of our country" by liberalizing abortion laws. Ron Weddington, who with his wife Sarah Weddington represented "Jane Roe," sent the four-page letter to President Clinton's transition team before Clinton took office in January 1993.
The missive turned up in an exhibit put together by the watchdog legal group Judicial Watch, which has been researching the Clinton administration's policy on the abortion drug RU-486, notes James Taranto in the Wall Street Journal's Best of the Web.
Weddington qualified his statement, saying, "No, I'm not advocating some sort of mass extinction of these unfortunate people. Crime, drugs and disease are already doing that. The problem is that their numbers are not only replaced but increased by the birth of millions of babies to people who can't afford to have babies.
"There, I've said it. It's what we all know is true, but we only whisper it, because as liberals who believe in individual rights, we view any program which might treat the disadvantaged differently as discriminatory, mean-spirited and ... well ... Republican
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
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don't believe it
Socialists are utopians going back to the 19th century and were determined to go to any length to attain their goals. From Margaret Sanger inspiring Hitler's National Socialist movement, the "Dream" is still alive and well today in these people. Satanic and evil to the core.
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And would you believe the University of California (Berkeley) honored her with their "National Hero" award last year?
Disgusting.
http://www.publichealthheroes.org/past_heroes/2005/weddington.html
L
Smells like sabotage...ends justifying means: I'd want some verification and stuff.
Also consider the source: JW is not without stain.
I'm just darn skeptical.
Not impossible....just unlikely as heck.
It's hard to imagin the evil of some people, reminded me somewhat of Josef Mengele.
Nazis said the same thing....And Communists and Socialists...Now the American Demorats.
This isn't any better then the Brazillian practice of hiring mercenaries to just butcher the poor.
It's all about the unskilled and underpriveledged.. Hmm. We're all largely against abortion here and tacitly give lipservice to being for the poor and underpriveledged.. but the republican policy on this issue seems to be to export their job opportunities, import illegal aliens to keep them from making an income they can live off of and replace them in the workplace with H1 & L1 visa imports under the deciet that there is some sort of labor shortage. But we did cut their taxes...
If true, very disgusting. I have little faith in WND.
Most of us started out "poor". All of us started out "uneducated". Good thing our parents knew better.
Nothing new.
The State Boys Rebellion
http://www.simonsays.com/content/content.cfm?sid=33&pid=422319
It’s interesting that Germany looked to the US for it’s ideas on eugenics.
Excerpt from link:
Though they couldn't possible know it, the children of the Fernald State School were the victims of bad science and a newly developed bureaucracy designed to save America from the so-called "menace of the feebleminded." Beginning early in the twentieth century, United States health officials used crude versions of the modern IQ tests to identify supposedly "deficient" children and lock them away. The idea was to protect society from potential criminals and to prevent so-called undesirables from having children and degrading the American gene pool......
...... It reveals the danger in misguided science, the fearsome power of unchecked bureaucracies,
Considering the current unemployment rate, people are working somewhere... They are also spending a lot of money - cars, houses, etc. Many of them must have jobs that pay well.
Do you really think that people who advocate the abortion of millions have scruples?
If you still don't believe it, read Mr. Weddington's own words in the New York Times:
To the Editor:
Re "30 Years After Abortion Ruling, New Trends but the Old Debate" (front page, Jan. 20):
But for Roe v. Wade, millions more children would have been born into poverty, where they would be greeted by Congress and the state legislators who failed to provide money for day care, health care, education or job training.
Millions more would have joined the ranks of welfare recipients and the homeless, the populations of prisons, prostitutes and drug addicts.
All that, simply to pander to the religious beliefs of a minority who persist in claiming that a collection of cells, without reason or awareness, is human life with something called a soul.
As co-counsel in Roe v. Wade, I applaud the determination of J'Vante Anderson, the young woman in your article, to break the cycle of teenage mothers. But if her vow of abstinence fails, I hope that she can fall back on abortion, for her future and ours.
RON WEDDINGTON
Austin, Tex., Jan. 20, 2003
I'd crawl on my knees over broken glass to pull the lever for a Republican to keep these evil monsters (Democrats) away from the levers of power.
If Weddington is writing this crap..he must make a lot of Dems very uncomfortable. I can't believe he didn't get a plane ticket to somewhere from Bill.
If you're talking about Olympia Snowe or Judy Barr Topinka the problem becomes somewhat less simple.
L
Keeping the monsters out of the majority is keeping them out of power.
Would you like maple or boysenberry syrup?
Hear! Hear!
But everything I snipped is quoted, and at least one other person here has confirmed who this person is from other sources.
At this point I really don't have any trouble believing that this person wrote this letter. What I do have trouble with is the fact that any human being could actually walk around among us with thoughts like this in his head.
Where do such people come from? What happened to them to make them this way? Why do they harbor such contempt for fellow human beings? And finally what the f*** makes them think they're so much better than poor people?
Where does the unbridled hubris come from?
Oh well. I suppose those questions really don't matter much in the end. We've just got to realize that these people, if you can call them that, honestly think they know best who should be allowed to breed and those who should be basically kept as animals..f****** because they 'can't help themselves' and then aborting the products thereof because 'it's so much better for them and for us.'
It's beyond disgusting if you ask me. It's bloody horrifying. Just about 60 years or so ago we tried, convicted, and hung people who took that kind of thinking to its logical extreme after ignoring them until they started the bloodiest war in human history.
Sorry to pop off in your direction DB, but this particular bit of 'news' really got to me tonite for some reason.
L
That's just as monstrous of a statement as the abortionist lawyer. Pure evil.
There are seven too many words in this sentence.
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wasn't murdered
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I have heard that argument before (from the Freakonomics folks, IIRC). But I don't buy it. If it were true, then the places with higher abortion rates would have had greater drops in crime, and all of the statistics I've seen show that not to be the case.
Instead, I believe the drop in crime in the U.S. is based on better policing and more liberal (from a Jeffersonian perspective) concealed carry laws. Ironically, some of the drop in crime was also due to Bill Clinton, whose draconian gun control policies convinced a lot of people who otherwise were apathetic to the gun control debate to go out and buy a firearm for their home. Since the inverse correlation of crime to gun ownership is well established (Kleck, Lott, etc) I think that improved gun ownership had more of a positive effect than abortion ever did, if abortion had any positive effect at all.
self ping for further reading
Problem is, killing everybody is a pretty big crime in itself and once it starts well it just doesn't seem to stop.
Oh well, waddya gonna do. It's late and I'm going to bed. I'm going to kiss my son once after I make sure he's safe in his bed. When I get to my room I'm going to get down on my knees and thank God for making me a husband and a dad even though I was poor when it happend. Then I'm going to pray for the strength to keep me from going out, hunting the monster who wrote this vile bit of trash down, and.... giving him a piece of my mind.
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You see the thing is, it is irrelevant what you believe. The only thing that is relevant in the situation is the reality.
the most important factor in the drop in crime was the increased number of prisons and longer prison terms.
There is zero evidence that an increase in the number of people owning weapons lowered crime rates. That is pure conjecture on your part. I could easily say I think it is because more people believe in Santa Claus.
There are some questionable statistics that seem to indicate that states which allowed abortion earlier than RvW actually saw a drop in crime earlier than nationally.
Your comment about higher abortion rates leading to a greater drop in crime has no basis in logic unless you can eliminate other mitigating factors such as poverty levels.
That much said, I will add some conjecture which is that more religion in people's lives will a) reduce crime and b) reduce abortion.
Good find, what a murderous psycho this guy is.
I suggest you browse a few posts at DU, wash thoroughly and re-read this thread. It may not seem quite a stretch by then. ; )
This has always been the goal of Planned Parenthood ever since Margaret Sanger started it. They just play it down now and don't talk about exterminating "inferior" races and groups as much any more.
Many, not most. The rich are richer while opportunities and income for the lower class are being exported, diluted, undermined etc from all directions. Illegals glutting the market and driving wages down and benefits out of existance.
Visa imports replacing americans in the workplace help do the same. At the same time you're exporting unskilled higher level jobs in the mid/low middle class range removing opportunity and wages. That is an effect on the majority of Americans. Of course, mid/upper middle class on up are still spending like Clinton in a whorehouse. People with money are spending it. And this is a surprise how? They're making more of it and the numbers reflect that in the spending. Is there something we're missing here. Or are you just trying to pretend with Mr. Rogers?
Five million jobs. Yep, that's good. Till you look at the fact that they are largely five million positions at McDonalds.. then reality sinks in for those not in denial.
It doesn't seem to ocurr to you guys publically what's actually going on. You'll say it in private; but, the public face is always how you can construe it to make the shine look less from dampness and more from worth. Under examination, it isn't the Hell democrats have painted, We have a ways to go to reach the deepest depths - we're in the foyer. Let this continue and we'll reach the depths. Without the middle class unskilled wage, education will disappear for the lower class. That seems to be the design and intent - to provide the wealthy with a permanant servant class. And indeed, as much is being said and argued openly on radio, tv and on internet forums. Limbaugh had a caller stating as much in the past few weeks - openly. And you don't get why there is a mutiny brewing...
See above. I'm not the one employing scare tactics to try an keep the remainder of my fleeing base.
http://blackgenocide.org/sanger.html
"The truth about Margaret Sanger
(This article first appeared in the January 20, 1992 edition of Citizen magazine)
How Planned Parenthood Duped America
At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.
Sanger's other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as "scientific" and "humanitarian." And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains." These "strains" included the "shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South."
Not to be outdone by her followers, Margaret Sanger spoke of sterilizing those she designated as "unfit," a plan she said would be the "salvation of American civilization.: And she also spike of those who were "irresponsible and reckless," among whom she included those " whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers." She further contended that "there is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped." That many Americans of African origin constituted a segment of Sanger considered "unfit" cannot be easily refuted."
Please show the stats supporting your statement- "...the fact that they are largely five million positions at McDonalds.."
Maggie Sanger and the Human Weeds
By Shawn Macomber
Published 6/23/2004 12:06:29 AM
WASHINGTON -- After a lengthy incubation, the sick dreams of Margaret Sanger are finally hatching. Against the excuses of her modern defenders, it should be remembered that the founder of Planned Parenthood's main interest in the legalization of abortion was not that women should be freed from the bonds of childbearing, but that unsavory types should be cleansed from the larger population.
In fact, Sanger only turned to abortion when her original plan to "apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation" to those with "objectionable traits" -- sometimes derided as the stronger epithet "human weeds" -- found little support. Turned out folks felt a bit queasy about sending those of certain ethnic backgrounds and with disabilities and mental illnesses off to "farm lands and homesteads" to be "taught to work under competent instructors for the period of their entire lives."
Sounds a bit like a concentration camp, no? Then again, she was a great admirer of the Nazi eugenics movement. Like Hitler, she had a long list of folks she wanted to eliminate from society, including "illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, dope fiends."
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6738
The "false evidence appearing real" is only being proffered by the socialist-fascists in our midst.
The fact that I believe is indeed, of course, irrelevant. But what I believe happens to correspond rather closely with the available statistical information.
the most important factor in the drop in crime was the increased number of prisons and longer prison terms.
Perhaps. In any case, that was the first factor I mentioned so I don't see why you are being irrationally beligerent.
There is zero evidence that an increase in the number of people owning weapons lowered crime rates. That is pure conjecture on your part.
Not true; that is pretty much an established fact. Read Dr. Lott's book "More guns, Less crime" which demonstrates it. Dr. Kleck's earlier work also shows the dramatic effect of gun ownership in reducing violence.
There are some questionable statistics that seem to indicate that states which allowed abortion earlier than RvW actually saw a drop in crime earlier than nationally
Very questionable statistics, unlike the solid ones that show that an increase in gun ownership reduces crime. If the "abortion reduces crime" assertion were really true, it would hold in other places (Europe or Canada, for example) where no such correlation exists.
Your comment about higher abortion rates leading to a greater drop in crime has no basis in logic
Good thing that wasn't my comment; I said the exact opposite.
I don't feel "popped off" at.
There are simply evil people in the world with evil thoughts and actions. There really is no comprehending it.
I do wonder if people that have lived through other dark times feel like we are entering one now. And if so how it compares to previous ones.
To me it feels like numerous dark forces are coalescing together against our country. There's a big chunk of the world that wants to put us in our place - even if it means worse for themselves. Then there's Islam on the march and no real willingness to call it for what it is. Add to that Iran, Russia and China... And here at home we have illegals protesting in our streets demanding their "rights" with high government officials wanting to grant them what is not theirs to give. Massive public and private debt. We have a "Republican" government that doesn't represent us and if we throw them out it only gets worse. Basically a choice between death by fire or death by drowning...
So to me it seems like one of those turning points in history. Where the future is very unclear.
California is now wanting to raise my taxes for the good of the children... I can't easily leave because my business is here, my family is here and I've spent the last three years building my new home here...
So no, I'm not feeling real optimistic these days...
Or I'm simply feeling paranoid - which many here would likely agree...
And I'm just plain tired...
1.Who will eventurally become a criminal and
2.Which human life is worthy to be lived and which is not.
It always amazes me that man, even after thousands of years of history of other fallen men taking on the role of God with disasterous, horrific consequences, still arrogantly considers himself to be the center of the universe and therefore wholly qualified to make proclamations and decisions that God has reserved for Himself.
Incredible.
ping...
I guess the estimated 100 million - 200 million islamofascists spread throughout 60 countries and communists or fascist dictators in saudi arabia, venezuela, boliva, and mexico controlling our energy lifeline, don't constitute us being "surrounded by enemies." Okay, I feel safe, no reason to be fruitful and multiply anymore. Idiot.
Who would that be? You. Or is that just your adhom way of saying you stopped being conservative when you didn't let us get away with whatever we wanted...
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