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Bush Losing the Immigration Debate
War to Mobilize Democracy, LLC ^ | May 13, 2006 | Andrew L. Jaffee

Posted on 05/13/2006 12:56:02 PM PDT by forty_years

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To: forty_years

Amen bump


81 posted on 05/13/2006 2:51:38 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: browardchad

Strictly from a National Security standpoint, immigration legislation must have the criminalization wording. What happens when MS13 gets in bed with Al-Qaeda?? Rumor has it they already have..


82 posted on 05/13/2006 2:52:13 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: forty_years
Bush Losing the Immigration Debate

..he's only got a couple of more times at bat to get this one right--Monday night is one of them...

83 posted on 05/13/2006 2:54:41 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: lemura

How's that class-action lawsuit comin'?


84 posted on 05/13/2006 2:55:05 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: lonedawg

"You got it! Ending this problem is as easy as removing the incentive for hiring!"

And take away all the freebies, such as welfare, food stamps, free health care and they will migrate back from where they came.

In addition, put a heavy tax on money they Western Union back to Mexico... and I mean a HEAVY TAX!


85 posted on 05/13/2006 3:02:42 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
[ Not much need to read any further. Anyone who believes this crock of bull is an idiot. ]

Ugh.. Activly IMPORTING 20 to 30 million NEW DEMOCRATS is NOT good for the country OR the republican party.. Duuuugh.. Wake Up..

Their NOT immigrants their DEMOCRATS...

86 posted on 05/13/2006 3:07:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: RodgerD
[ Legal and illegal Hispanic immigrants, end up, once eventually US citizens, voting, by strong majority, Democratic. ]

They are ALREADY voting.. even the dead vote democrat.. registering live ones is easier..

87 posted on 05/13/2006 3:10:38 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: sinkspur

"You don't have a say in the matter"

As the owner of two businesses in Texas and the owner of approximately 2000 acres of land in North Central Texas I beg to differ with you. BTW...I'm a registered voter in Texas (my main residence). Perhaps it is you that doesn't have a say in the matter. BTW, I was born in Wise County Texas.

I might add that the folks I talk with in Crawford, Gatesville, Fort Gates and the surrounding areas have a somewhat different opinion of GWB than you. Nope, George ain't no Texan.


88 posted on 05/13/2006 3:15:59 PM PDT by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: FreeReign

The border will include all CAFTA countries. You see, "free trade" agreements are mechanisms for economic, political and social mergers. In other words, they erase country borders.

When the FTAA is signed, the hemispheric merger will be complete on paper, the implementation will soon follow.


89 posted on 05/13/2006 3:20:21 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: forty_years; All

Something that I think needs to be done is to forbid all money orders and transfers going to Mexico. As much as I hate to see another law passed, one needs to be that would make selling money orders that are going to Mexico and or wiring money to Mexico against the law. (Of course our ball-less Congress will never do such a thing.)


90 posted on 05/13/2006 3:21:49 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Bones75

"As far as I'm concerned.. Bush is not even HAVING the immigration debate."

Thanks, Bones - it took 26 posts for someone to note that.

It seems to me that it doesn't matter whether he's losing the debate or not, he's going to do what he wants - not what we want.


91 posted on 05/13/2006 3:23:40 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: politicalwit
I'm a registered voter in Texas (my main residence).

Did you vote for Governor Bush?

92 posted on 05/13/2006 3:24:07 PM PDT by harrowup (If you voted for President Bush, be loyal; if you didn't just shut up.)
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To: Texasforever
No matter how many Hispanics say they are against illegal amnesty they will sure look at mass round-ups and deportations of their fellow Hispanics with a bit of trepidation especially given the kind of rhetoric coming from a lot of the border hard liners.

This is one "hispanic" (American first) who wholeheartedly disagrees with this statement.

93 posted on 05/13/2006 3:24:22 PM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: forty_years
You notice the media always tries to pin his low approval on Iraq, or some other issue. They refuse to admit that it is Pres. Bush protecting illegal insurgents instead of American Citizens.

And apparently no one in the WH has the guts to tell him the truth.

94 posted on 05/13/2006 3:26:46 PM PDT by marty60
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To: sinkspur

Yes. I remember reading an interview of him before he was president and someone asked him what the difference was between himself and his father and his one word response was:

"Midland".


95 posted on 05/13/2006 3:30:12 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: proudofthesouth

"Something that I think needs to be done is to forbid all money orders and transfers going to Mexico. As much as I hate to see another law passed, one needs to be that would make selling money orders that are going to Mexico and or wiring money to Mexico against the law. (Of course our ball-less Congress will never do such a thing.)"

I've been pushing that on FR for a couple of years. Even wrote to Tancredo about it.

Have also seen suggestions of taxing the hell out of money transfers - pols probably more likely to go for that one.


96 posted on 05/13/2006 3:33:34 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: politicalwit
If you're a Texan, how come you don't have the Texas flag on your home page?

You ain't no Texan if you're ashamed of it.

97 posted on 05/13/2006 3:37:20 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: sinkspur

"He was born in Connecticut, but spent 58 of his 59 years in Texas"

Phillips Andover Academy, MA grades 9-12= 4 years
Yale University, Ct = 4 years
Harvard Business School, MA = 2 years
POTUS, DC = 4+ years

At a minimum, 14 years, NOT IN TEXAS! Important, developmental years at that.

If GWB had played on the Midland, TX football team, gone to the Midland, TX High School Prom, got his degree from Texas Tech, and got his MBA at UT, I would absolutely call him a TEXAN. He didn't. GWB is about as TEXAS as a bagel. (Apologies to all members of the 'Lone Star of David' Synagogue.)


98 posted on 05/13/2006 3:41:59 PM PDT by coladirienzi
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To: A message

Lets hear what the Presidant has to say Monday before shooting off with con job and all that crud.



I completely agree with this statement.


99 posted on 05/13/2006 3:48:34 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Appeasable Border Hawk)
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To: Texasforever

Your post shows what I believe to be the cucial breaking point in the conservative movement on illegal immigration.

Those against the "sieve method" of border control stand FOR our national sovereignty and enforcement of law.

If what you are posting here is accurate, you are concerned about votes.

One of these is a very shallow display.


100 posted on 05/13/2006 3:57:11 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Appeasable Border Hawk)
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