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Bush Losing the Immigration Debate
War to Mobilize Democracy, LLC ^ | May 13, 2006 | Andrew L. Jaffee

Posted on 05/13/2006 12:56:02 PM PDT by forty_years

President Bush plans to address the nation on Monday night at 8 PM to con the American public into buying into his ludicrous immigration policies. His approval ratings are at an all-time low, with only 31% of Americans approving of his job performance, while "68% believe the United States is worse off today than it was before Mr. Bush became president." Bush's immigration policies would open the floodgates to illegals, and Americans do not approve -- and it looks like the Senate agrees. Another poll shows support for the House's tough and very sensible immigration legislation, HR 4437:

...69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

In an attempt to assuage American concerns about the unfettered illegal immigration tidal wave, Bush has proposed using the National Guard to patrol our borders:

President Bush, trying to build momentum for an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, is considering plans to shore up the Mexican border with National Guard troops paid for by the federal government, according to senior administration officials.

One defense official said military leaders believe the number of troops required could range from 3,500 to 10,000, depending on the final plan.

That's a great idea, except that Bush wants to provide amnesty to the millions of illegals already present in the U.S., and he wants to allow 400,000 "guest workers" to enter the U.S. every year. This is a recipe for disaster.

There are at least 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., and 10,000 pouring into our nation every day. One study predicts there will be 5 million more Latin American immigrants in the U.S. by 2015, while another prognosticates that illegals will push the American population to 1/2 billion people by 2050. Since the U.S. government is failing dismally at stemming this unfettered tidal wave, a group of concerned citizens, the Minuteman, has tried to prevent illegal immigration, but it appears that Bush has betrayed them.

And it looks like the Republican-controlled Senate is on the verge of betraying the American people by planning to push through legislation which will implement Bush's disastrous proposals. If the Republicans are looking to retain the Senate in the 2006 elections, they may just be shooting themselves in their collective feet.

The problem with Bush and many Republicans is that they are looking at immigration solely in 2 modalities: 1) trying to court the Latino vote, and 2) looking at immigration solely in near-term economic terms.

President Bush and Mexico's President Fox are colluding in an unholy alliance. Bush wants cheap Mexican labor -- forget the problems illegals pose to American society. Fox, an arrogant racist, wants to dump his economic problems on the U.S. instead of enacting much-needed reforms in his own corrupt society. It looks like Senate Republicans have joined the alliance.

It is time for the U.S. to criminalize illegal immigration as a felony offense. We need to build a wall along the Mexico border and provide enough personnel to patrol that border. We need to make it very painful for employers who hire illegals.

Are we to sit by idly while illegal immigrants openly march through our streets, trying to intimidate our policy makers, defame our flag, and rewrite our national anthem? Complacency will lead to the end of our prosperity and democracy.

Perhaps most importantly, it is time for the Third World to start dealing with its own problems (like corruption and overpopulation), and stop trying to dump those problems on the U.S.

Take action: Support LEGAL immigration.

http://netwmd.com/blog/2006/05/13/596


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To: forty_years

Amen bump


81 posted on 05/13/2006 2:51:38 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: browardchad

Strictly from a National Security standpoint, immigration legislation must have the criminalization wording. What happens when MS13 gets in bed with Al-Qaeda?? Rumor has it they already have..


82 posted on 05/13/2006 2:52:13 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: forty_years
Bush Losing the Immigration Debate

..he's only got a couple of more times at bat to get this one right--Monday night is one of them...

83 posted on 05/13/2006 2:54:41 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: lemura

How's that class-action lawsuit comin'?


84 posted on 05/13/2006 2:55:05 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: lonedawg

"You got it! Ending this problem is as easy as removing the incentive for hiring!"

And take away all the freebies, such as welfare, food stamps, free health care and they will migrate back from where they came.

In addition, put a heavy tax on money they Western Union back to Mexico... and I mean a HEAVY TAX!


85 posted on 05/13/2006 3:02:42 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
[ Not much need to read any further. Anyone who believes this crock of bull is an idiot. ]

Ugh.. Activly IMPORTING 20 to 30 million NEW DEMOCRATS is NOT good for the country OR the republican party.. Duuuugh.. Wake Up..

Their NOT immigrants their DEMOCRATS...

86 posted on 05/13/2006 3:07:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: RodgerD
[ Legal and illegal Hispanic immigrants, end up, once eventually US citizens, voting, by strong majority, Democratic. ]

They are ALREADY voting.. even the dead vote democrat.. registering live ones is easier..

87 posted on 05/13/2006 3:10:38 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: sinkspur

"You don't have a say in the matter"

As the owner of two businesses in Texas and the owner of approximately 2000 acres of land in North Central Texas I beg to differ with you. BTW...I'm a registered voter in Texas (my main residence). Perhaps it is you that doesn't have a say in the matter. BTW, I was born in Wise County Texas.

I might add that the folks I talk with in Crawford, Gatesville, Fort Gates and the surrounding areas have a somewhat different opinion of GWB than you. Nope, George ain't no Texan.


88 posted on 05/13/2006 3:15:59 PM PDT by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: FreeReign

The border will include all CAFTA countries. You see, "free trade" agreements are mechanisms for economic, political and social mergers. In other words, they erase country borders.

When the FTAA is signed, the hemispheric merger will be complete on paper, the implementation will soon follow.


89 posted on 05/13/2006 3:20:21 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: forty_years; All

Something that I think needs to be done is to forbid all money orders and transfers going to Mexico. As much as I hate to see another law passed, one needs to be that would make selling money orders that are going to Mexico and or wiring money to Mexico against the law. (Of course our ball-less Congress will never do such a thing.)


90 posted on 05/13/2006 3:21:49 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Bones75

"As far as I'm concerned.. Bush is not even HAVING the immigration debate."

Thanks, Bones - it took 26 posts for someone to note that.

It seems to me that it doesn't matter whether he's losing the debate or not, he's going to do what he wants - not what we want.


91 posted on 05/13/2006 3:23:40 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: politicalwit
I'm a registered voter in Texas (my main residence).

Did you vote for Governor Bush?

92 posted on 05/13/2006 3:24:07 PM PDT by harrowup (If you voted for President Bush, be loyal; if you didn't just shut up.)
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To: Texasforever
No matter how many Hispanics say they are against illegal amnesty they will sure look at mass round-ups and deportations of their fellow Hispanics with a bit of trepidation especially given the kind of rhetoric coming from a lot of the border hard liners.

This is one "hispanic" (American first) who wholeheartedly disagrees with this statement.

93 posted on 05/13/2006 3:24:22 PM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: forty_years
You notice the media always tries to pin his low approval on Iraq, or some other issue. They refuse to admit that it is Pres. Bush protecting illegal insurgents instead of American Citizens.

And apparently no one in the WH has the guts to tell him the truth.

94 posted on 05/13/2006 3:26:46 PM PDT by marty60
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To: sinkspur

Yes. I remember reading an interview of him before he was president and someone asked him what the difference was between himself and his father and his one word response was:

"Midland".


95 posted on 05/13/2006 3:30:12 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: proudofthesouth

"Something that I think needs to be done is to forbid all money orders and transfers going to Mexico. As much as I hate to see another law passed, one needs to be that would make selling money orders that are going to Mexico and or wiring money to Mexico against the law. (Of course our ball-less Congress will never do such a thing.)"

I've been pushing that on FR for a couple of years. Even wrote to Tancredo about it.

Have also seen suggestions of taxing the hell out of money transfers - pols probably more likely to go for that one.


96 posted on 05/13/2006 3:33:34 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: politicalwit
If you're a Texan, how come you don't have the Texas flag on your home page?

You ain't no Texan if you're ashamed of it.

97 posted on 05/13/2006 3:37:20 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: sinkspur

"He was born in Connecticut, but spent 58 of his 59 years in Texas"

Phillips Andover Academy, MA grades 9-12= 4 years
Yale University, Ct = 4 years
Harvard Business School, MA = 2 years
POTUS, DC = 4+ years

At a minimum, 14 years, NOT IN TEXAS! Important, developmental years at that.

If GWB had played on the Midland, TX football team, gone to the Midland, TX High School Prom, got his degree from Texas Tech, and got his MBA at UT, I would absolutely call him a TEXAN. He didn't. GWB is about as TEXAS as a bagel. (Apologies to all members of the 'Lone Star of David' Synagogue.)


98 posted on 05/13/2006 3:41:59 PM PDT by coladirienzi
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To: A message

Lets hear what the Presidant has to say Monday before shooting off with con job and all that crud.



I completely agree with this statement.


99 posted on 05/13/2006 3:48:34 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Appeasable Border Hawk)
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To: Texasforever

Your post shows what I believe to be the cucial breaking point in the conservative movement on illegal immigration.

Those against the "sieve method" of border control stand FOR our national sovereignty and enforcement of law.

If what you are posting here is accurate, you are concerned about votes.

One of these is a very shallow display.


100 posted on 05/13/2006 3:57:11 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Appeasable Border Hawk)
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