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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Pukin Dog; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; Coop; Dog Gone
Outstanding rant.

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Some will scream at the waiter about “betrayal,” boycott the restaurant, high-five each other when it goes out of business, then look on dumbfounded as International House of Parsley takes its place.

401 posted on 05/17/2006 9:34:44 AM PDT by dighton
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To: ClancyJ

Read my posts more carefully, including 267. No, I'm not a GOPer, but I said I plan to keep pushing them to the right. I am as conservative as can be, my friend. I vote for the most conservative candidate, which in my lifetime, has been the GOP.

This is a conservative forum, and I'm quite happy here, thank you very much. I have no intention of joining a 3rd party. I have no intention of destroying the GOP. I have every intention of supporting the conservative wing of the GOP in their efforts to become dominant.

And I think Bush is a great President, despite his errors, which all president's make.


402 posted on 05/17/2006 9:35:20 AM PDT by pissant
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To: sam_paine
I didn't say DeLay "hit the road."

I know, and I never said you did. 

I said the GOP "threw him under a bus."

No they didn't.  They stayed out of the fray for the duration. 

403 posted on 05/17/2006 9:35:59 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Prokopton
Kennedy was nominated by President Reagan and Souter was nominated by President Bush I, both Republicans.

Meaning it's very important that we have a Republican president AND a Republican Senate.

404 posted on 05/17/2006 9:36:03 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Texaggie79; Sir Gawain
Well, no, see here's the thing. If we dare go against the almighty pukin, we get suspended. Just ask Sir Gawain. You apparently forbid us from disagreeing with him.

A&M's corps of cadets must be very proud of your courage in making a public post.

Sir Gawain's history of suspensions is impressive on its own merits, without bringing in any other posters.

405 posted on 05/17/2006 9:36:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Tribune7

understood.


406 posted on 05/17/2006 9:36:33 AM PDT by Rebelbase (" Bush II: What's good for Mexico is good for America." --FReeper, Vigilanteman.)
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To: sam_paine; ohioWfan
You proved the point. Can you point to a single case where "the party" supported a challenger to their existing incumbent? (I'm not puting the burden of proof on you, it's just that I can't think of any case where "the party" was motivated to do anything other than milquetoastify a candidate the longer he stays on.)

That was the point I was going to make. Republican incumbents of a liberal persuasion are often protected by the party against conservative challengers. I've seen it time and time again. I can't think of a SINGLE race where a conservative challenger has beaten an liberal Republican incumbent in the Primary Election. And I can think of several where the Republican Party provided overt and covert support to the liberal incumbent.

407 posted on 05/17/2006 9:36:47 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: facedown
President Bush has done many good things, the WOT in particular, and I'll continue to support him where I believe he's right, and continue to criticize him civilly where I believe he's wrong until it's time to choose a new leader.

Well then obviously you are not part of the problem. I think that's all Pukin was trying to say.

408 posted on 05/17/2006 9:37:01 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: onyx
Were you sent here by the DNC and it's branches in '04? If so, then you deserve attacks.

Hardly anyone who criticizes our President on FR, even in less than polite ways, was sent here by the DNC. That probably happened around election time, but not now. I think there are far more legitimate conservatives on here who are just really upset with the administration over the amnesty program than there are DNC operatives trying to make us fight each other.
409 posted on 05/17/2006 9:37:18 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Pukin Dog

Thanks, Pukin.
Hope it isn't too little, too late, but time will tell.

Cheers
Jim


410 posted on 05/17/2006 9:37:42 AM PDT by gymbeau (Alberta. Bound.)
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To: OldFriend
Rumsfeld and Cheney deserve better from us. They are serving with their last ounce of energy and life.

Are they getting bashed here?

I have been busy writing to senators and congress urging them to hold the line and focus on SOUTHERN BORDER ENFORCEMENT FIRST.

411 posted on 05/17/2006 9:37:45 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: NinoFan

***Like it or not, a lot of Bush's base is very upset right now. Do not treat us like we are spoiled children crying because we did not get a candy bar. Such accusations are very insulting. ***

I'm not familiar with your posts, but from what you said if you run down the President at this delicate and desperate time in our country's history, then I have to say, "No, you're more like spoiled children who toss down their baseball bats because they don't like the umps' calls and then go home and LET THE OTHER SIDE WIN." If I mis-read your post, I apologize. If not, grow up.


412 posted on 05/17/2006 9:38:09 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: NinoFan; ohioWfan

There was no accusation, veiled or otherwise, in ohio's post. None.


413 posted on 05/17/2006 9:38:18 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: Spiff
Quite true, Spiff.

I heard that crazy Mecha woman on Hannity, and that was it for me.

414 posted on 05/17/2006 9:38:35 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Admin Moderator
Sir Gawain's history of suspensions is impressive on its own merits, without bringing in any other posters.

Oh please. I've been a freeper in good standing for nearly six years. I doubt I've been suspended any more than the average freeper. Sure I've gone overboard a few times, but I'm not some disruptor.

415 posted on 05/17/2006 9:38:52 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Tribune7
"Kennedy was nominated by President Reagan and Souter was nominated by President Bush I, both Republicans.
Meaning it's very important that we have a Republican president AND a Republican Senate."


You want more Kennedys and Souters?
416 posted on 05/17/2006 9:38:57 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: LK44-40

I feel sure you would wish that President Bush not even have the "bots" to take up for him - then you would have 100% hatred of the man, but we are here and we will take up for him.

In fact, I consider the term "bushbot" an honor same as GOP Team Leader. I have spent hours standing up for this man as leader of this nation. Cannot think of a better man I would trust with this country.

He is not perfect and does not do everything I want - but I work on the percentage basis and 75% is a lot better than -75% the dems would give me.


417 posted on 05/17/2006 9:39:00 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Is the primary goal of our Congress to protect America's borders?)
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To: Protagoras
Bonus question, who were the Presidents who nominated those two justices?

No need to get into this, since you now claim you didn't say what you said.

418 posted on 05/17/2006 9:39:28 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Fudd Fan

Thanks.
I'm not a Harper fan, but he's sure better than the alternatives!

Cheers
Jim


419 posted on 05/17/2006 9:39:48 AM PDT by gymbeau (Alberta. Bound.)
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To: Pukin Dog
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

Far better to replace Chafee with the Club's candidate, Laffey. He has a real chance of winning.

Your remarks about striking fear into the RINOs by targetting them for defeat are spot-on.
420 posted on 05/17/2006 9:39:51 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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