[neverdem]

The Hispanic Challenge (To America) A MUST READ Samuel Huntington (Long But Good)

The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants. This Huntington article definitely needs to be read by everyone at least once! It should be linked on pertinent immigration threads. Citizenship, sovereignty, rule of law: These things are rendered meaningless if the distinction between legal and illegal immigration is meaningless.

[rhombus]

What a great thread. Now we can get the drug warriors AND the border warriors together in the same thread.

[Paloma_55]

KARNAK THE MAGNIFICENT... The envelope please?

Yes, your mighty and omnipotent one...

Oil Rich Dictatorships, Islamic Terrorism, Illegal Immigration!

Tears open the envelope...












Name three things that have been neglected for 25 years and are now clearly a threat to our nation.

[FBD]

Immigration was a topic of concern even to our founding fathers.
Read what Alexander Hamilton had to say about unlimited immigration:

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"The opinion advanced in [Jefferson’s] Notes on Virginia is undoubtedly correct, that foreigners will generally be apt to bring with them attachments to the persons they have left behind; to the country of their nativity, and to its particular customs and manners.

They will also entertain opinions on government congenial with those under which they have lived; or if they should be led hither from a preference to ours, how extremely unlikely is it that they will bring with them that temperate love of liberty, so essential to real republicanism?…"

"In the recommendation to admit indiscriminately foreign emigrants of every description to the privileges of American citizens, on their first entrance into our country, there is an attempt to break down every pale which has been erected for the preservation of a national spirit and a national character; and to let in the most powerful means of perverting and corrupting both the one and the other."

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[From Hamilton, “The Examination,” nos. 7-9 (1802), Papers of Alexander Hamilton, ed. Harold C. Syrett (New York: Columbia University Press, 1961-), 25:491-501.]

[Berlin_Freeper]

“How many border guards would it take to make the U.S.-Mexican border impenetrable?”

It is not hard to imagine what kind of border the US needs.

Make the border an exact copy of the one between North and South Korea. Minus all the unnecessary tanks and artillary, it would be cheap because minefields need very little upkeep.

We can't make it "militarized"? Who says? Considering the Mexican governments hostile attitude of dictating our policy I say a militarized border is called for. And shame on Mexico for forcing us to have to do it.

We did it in Korea and it has worked for decades. We should have done it in Vietnam, we need to do it in Iraq. Americans should be the worlds experts in putting up military borders. You keep the scum out, you are solving many problems right there. Then we can sit back and watch them eat each other and have no doubt of exactly why we put up "militarized borders".

[WOSG]

Great column.

The will to enforce the laws is not there because many people are comfortable with the situation where law-breaking is rampant.

[gubamyster]

ping

[gubamyster]

If we used the money and resources we are spending in other countries, such as Columbia, to fight the drug war and secured our borders, we would significantly reduce both drugs and illegal immigrants entering our country.

[humblegunner]

What If Mexicans Were Crack?

They would get smoked.

[Stone Mountain]

Most opponents of the drug war came to their position because they consider the effort worthy in principle, but ultimately futile in the face of a more determined “enemy,” and a bit silly since the gains of winning aren’t that important to them.

Some of us don't even consider the effort worthy in priniciple. The principle I believe we should be working under is that drug addiction should be treated as a medical problem, not a criminal one. And that we shouldn't be prosecuting people for using drugs as long as they aren't breaking any other laws (DUI, theft, etc.). As for the "gains of winning," the war on drugs, I guess we'll never know since as was mentioned, this effort has shown itself to be ultimately futile. Cocaine is siginifcantly cheaper (both in adjusted and real dollars) than it was in the '80s and it is now of higher purity. Virtually every high school student and prisoner in this country can obtain marijuana if they wanted to - in fact, for most underage users, it's easier to obtain weed than it is alcohol. We are wasting valuable resources prosecuting victimless crimes such as this. Alcohol has ruined many more lives than marijuana has, yet which drug is legal and which drug is illegal?

[EEDUDE]

To ALL

We have lost the Senate.

Write or call your Representative in the House!

They must hold, or life as we know it in the US will change forever.

Quit bitching and start calling or writing.

We MAY be able to stop this.

[Robertsll]

Weekly Standard editor and Fox News sage Bill Kristol declares himself a “liberal” on immigration and “soft” on illegal immigration. Both the Weekly Standard and the editors of the Wall Street Journal consider National Review to be part of the mob of “yahoos” trying, in Kristol’s words, to drive the GOP “off a cliff.”

That's because Bill Kristol is no conservative, he is a neo-conservative/New World Order Globalist. Having open borders is one of his top issues. It's the way elites acquire more and more wealth.

[Know your rights]

Some drug legalization advocates hang their position on a lot of moral preening about the absolute right of the individual to do what he wants. But many of the same people will then argue that it is—and should be—an outrageous crime to hire an illegal immigrant. Well, conservative economic dogma considers the right to form contracts with whomever you wish to be sacrosanct.

I support free trade ... but the right to form contracts no more illegitimizes border control than it illegitimizes my right to say who shall or shall not enter my home. America belongs to Americans ... a drug user's body belongs only to that drug user.

[A CA Guy]

What If Mexicans Were Crack?

You'd have Libertarians real interested?

[JTN]

The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants.

"The (fill in the blank) are unlike previous immigrants." This line is used with every new wave of immigration.

[CWOJackson]

Here you go.

[hershey]

Absolutely. Positively. Yes, yes, yes!

[zook]

When I read this, Jonah, I really question what you've been smoking. Crack serves no useful purpose and causes tremendous harm. 10 million working Mexicans will, if required to pay taxes and learn English, provide a great benefit for this country.