Skip to comments.Krauthammer: Good Intentions Not Enough To Secure Border
Posted on 05/18/2006 9:29:03 PM PDT by RWR8189
WASHINGTON -- I do not doubt the president's sincerity in wanting to humanize and regularize the lives of America's 11 million illegal aliens.
But good intentions are not enough. For decades, the well-traveled road from the Mexican border to the barrios of Los Angeles has been paved with such intentions. They begat the misguided immigration policy that created the crisis that necessitated the speech that purports to offer, finally, the ``comprehensive'' solution.
Hardly. The critical element -- border enforcement -- is farcical.
President Bush promises to increase the number of border agents. That was promised in the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty legislation in 1986. The result was 11 million new illegals.
The president himself boasted about having already increased the number of border guards by one-third under his administration. Yet he acknowledges in the same speech that we do not have the border under control -- "full control,'' as he comically put it. The president's new solution? Increase the number of border guards again, by half this time.
Everyone knows that anything short of enough border guards to do Hands Across America from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean won't do a thing to eliminate illegal immigration.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
Krauthammer should go back to the DU and join Moveon.
The tower would be facing Mexico.
I'm glad to see Krauthammer taking a far more sober position on this issue than some of his fellow Fox News (so-called) conservative analysts (Kristol and Barnes, specifically).
I don't know where you're coming from but you seem to be about 180 degrees out of phase with what I read in this article.
They're not America's illegal aliens...They're (mostly) Mexico's illegal aliens that are sqatting here.
This is the salient point in a nutshell.
Yeah, I remember saying the same thing about the House's 700 mile border wall. :-)
You really DO sound like an IDIOT!
I wonder if the guys shown on the website below are some of those 11 million? Take a look, hold your nose, and realize that it's coming to your neighborhood soon.
Hmm. The way I read this Charles thinks a Lie was told in that speech. I said the same and it wasn't responded to well. Guess Charles must be out of line too? ;-)
He nails it when he references it isn't only conservatives unhappy that have been the focus of the address. This affects black Americans, union workers, and middle and poor America unfavorably. Everyone except the elites, businesses making money off cheap labor, and the illegals. Though in reality all are hurt by the Senate's/admin's proposal. They just don't have the sense to realize it.
I concur with his points about a wall and increased enforcement. I vehemently disagree with his point about legalization. Way too many pundits are presenting the situation in all or nothing terms! Here's my point: if you build a wall, expand the border patrol, implement a nationwide, biometric based tracking system, and clamp down on businesses that hire illegals, you will turn the tide the other direction. Remove or greatly reduce the incentives for them to come, and they will stop coming. You don't have to find and deport all of them. You catch who you can and create a inhospitable environment for the rest. Shoot, you could even offer an amnesty...one that says we won't prosecute you if you get yourself back across the border within a certain period of time.
The problem is, too many of our leaders, including President Bush, want to be nice guys. Judeo-Christian ethics may be well and good on a personal level, but we are talking about a nation and the rule of law. Does anyone here think for one instant that legalizing the illegals will solve the problem? Our leaders apparently have no problem offering the proverbial carrot, but they don't have a clue when it comes time to use the stick!
IMO, it confirms his Independence from lobbyists for this policy.
Yes, he affirms some support for the GWP, but with an understanding of the harmful precedent doing so without first securement of the border. A precdent other Presidents woul then copy, while more continue to abuse our laws realizing there will be no consequence.
Kruat has encapulated my ambivalence and frustration, about our President, on this issue, as well as some others, of less importance. Bush is living in a dream world, on this issue. He is not serious, in the sense that he is not being practical. Bush needs to take a cold shower.
Poor Charles. He is supposedly a conservative, so he must write a column critical of the illegal invasion. But, he most definitely is not part of the right-wing rabble. So he writes the column critical of Bush, but adds this paragraph so his peers know he is not one of, well....them.
Charles gives it away all too often that he is an out of touch Beltway elitist who has sneering contempt for conservatives. We need merely recall his infamous Mel Gibson Passion column for proof.
Kraut lives in the real world. Pity, so many others, live elsewhere.
Yes, I fully agree Charles lives in the real world.
You're an idiot.
Senate Rejects Border Security
By Joe Mariani (05/17/2006)
Securing our southern border should be a priority, not a political ploy. It's telling that those who favor amnesty insist on a "comprehensive" bill. They know that most Americans do not want amnesty granted to foreign criminals and invaders, and they know that if such a bill stood on its own, it would be defeated. Studies have shown that mass legalisation would result in nearly 200 million uneducated, unskilled, disease-ridden immigrants pouring over our border in the next two decades, forever altering our country beyond recognition.
A paltry 6,000 National Guard troops or extra border patrol is an insult when five times that number are clearly needed, along with a physical wall and strict punishment for knowing employers of illegals. Illegals should be given six months during which to leave on their own, after which unlawful presence in the US should become punishable by permanent banishment. If more than half the illegals currently living in the US didn't make a run for the border in that six months, I'd eat my hat. Then they could truly get in the "back of the line" for citizenship -- since that line actually forms on the OTHER SIDE of the border.
I don't think they have a clue about how to use a carrot either. The carrot goes on the side you want the horse to move. They have the carrot on the side away from the border.
I don't watch Fox News much anymore because of these "so-called" conservatives. If I wanted CNN, I would listen over there.
Excellent read. As my mother used to say...."the road to hell is paved with good intentions".
Oops! You already made that astute observation of APFel prior to my doing so (I didn't check first).
A whole bunch of lies were told.
Me thinks we got some terrorist at home to deal with!
etlib wrote: "I don't think they have a clue about how to use a carrot either. The carrot goes on the side you want the horse to move. They have the carrot on the side away from the border."
Oh, that's a great point. Just keep repeating the Bush mantra and you'll come to understand: it's not an amnesty because they won't be given citizenship overnight, and more important, they are only here to do jobs Americans won't do.
Mexico is our friend? That's what our fearless leader tells us...
It was a typo. It was meant to be "encapsulated." I hate when that happens.
i thought you had me
You have to go all the way back to the civil rights movement to find a time when the black vote was not controlled by the leftist 'open borders' party.
Don't know how far back one must go to find a critical economic issue that unions had in common with conservatives.
For that matter when has poor America ever seen the Democrat party as the bad guy ?
Writing is on the wall.
Are we conservatives gonna play or are we gonna end up wasting our time trying to defend another banana eating Rino !
Read article before posting.
I like your brand of amnesty!
I watched Bush's speech in Arizona yesterday. How painful to watch! He bumbled through the first couple points about securing the border. His presentation and body language clearly indicated to me that his heart wasn't into it. Then when he came to the compassionate part of his program--treating all the good God-fearing people who have invaded us from the south with dignity--he just gushed with exuberance. There's no doubt in my mind that we're being set up--that Bush, in an elitist frenzy, is being compassionate with my borders and my tax dollars.
...interesting little challenge for setting record breach time with a step ladder. ...and a metal detector if needed. ;-)
Oops...make that a straight ladder.
Yep. It's worked for more than 50 years in Korea. There's no reason it will not work on our border.
Liberals oppose serious reform of an educational system that traps millions in illiteracy, poverty, and hopelessness. Liberals defend a structrually bankrupt Social Security System that takes 10% of a person's lifetime earnings and in return pays a welfare stipend. Why should liberal policy on immigration be any different?
Liberals favor the mass immigration of poor people because they think a few years down the road these people will become democrat voters. That's the sum total of the liberal calculation. They are in a panic because they have lost their permanent lock on Congress. They now want to import a new American population that they think they can control.
Ahem. Personal attacks are not allowed on FR.
"The way I read this Charles thinks a Lie was told in that speech. I said the same and it wasn't responded to well."
Many of us here believe Bush's immigration speech was BS, just as many Bush supporters here believe he would never lie to them!
Get used to it, stand your ground, & try to ignore the ignorant.
"They just don't have the sense to realize it."
With the VAST majority of Americans polled wanting the borders secured & the illegals stopped, clearly most people of any "stripe" DO have the sense to realize it.
The various "leaders" of the groups you mentioned will steer their people in the direction that nets them - the "leaders" - the most power & money. Whether or not it is good for the US or their constituents is immaterial to them.
There is money to be made in chaos.
Why does this wall-building mania remind me of the Maginot Line?
Probably because it will be just about as effective given the true open-borders sentiments of the president and so many other permanent underclass advocates.
Exactly! "By what logic" are the politicians allowing the dam liberals to run the show and make all the decisions?
Is it Christian to reward the lawbreaker? I don't think so. I was never taught that it's perfectly okay to break man's laws and than be rewarded for it.
Well put, but I think it's closer to 15% of a person's lifetime earnings if you count the "employer contribution" the worker never sees in his paycheck.
Like other forms of political correctness Krauthammer seems to be illogically saying that the more important problem is how to deal compassionately with illegal aliens already here, instead of fixing the source of the problem.
We should just secure our borders, and then take the time needed to rework our immigration policy, including how best to deal with illegals. Given the complexities and many options available this country needs the time. We let it rest for twenty years; it can wait a little longer.
I want as much security on both borders as we have around the White House. I live here too.
My wife's family entered legally and went through all the necessary steps to become citizens. They learned English instead of asking everyone to learn their language.
They brought some relatives over, legally. The relatives became citizens through the legal process. They learned English too.
I have been stopped many times in Yuma on I-8 by the Bored (correct spelling) Patrol. I am sure zillions are leaving Yuma where the checkpoints are. Somehow they get past the checkpoint and reach Phoenix.