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Krauthammer: Good Intentions Not Enough To Secure Border
Washington Post Writers Group ^ | May 19, 2006 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 05/18/2006 9:29:03 PM PDT by RWR8189

WASHINGTON -- I do not doubt the president's sincerity in wanting to humanize and regularize the lives of America's 11 million illegal aliens.

But good intentions are not enough. For decades, the well-traveled road from the Mexican border to the barrios of Los Angeles has been paved with such intentions. They begat the misguided immigration policy that created the crisis that necessitated the speech that purports to offer, finally, the ``comprehensive'' solution.

Hardly. The critical element -- border enforcement -- is farcical.

President Bush promises to increase the number of border agents. That was promised in the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty legislation in 1986. The result was 11 million new illegals.

The president himself boasted about having already increased the number of border guards by one-third under his administration. Yet he acknowledges in the same speech that we do not have the border under control -- "full control,'' as he comically put it. The president's new solution? Increase the number of border guards again, by half this time.

Everyone knows that anything short of enough border guards to do Hands Across America from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean won't do a thing to eliminate illegal immigration.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordercontrol; borders; borderwar; bush43; charleskrauthammer; foxnews; krauthammer; southernborder
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1 posted on 05/18/2006 9:29:04 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Krauthammer should go back to the DU and join Moveon.

Haha.

APf


2 posted on 05/18/2006 9:32:11 PM PDT by APFel (Loose ships sink lips.)
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To: RWR8189

The tower would be facing Mexico.

3 posted on 05/18/2006 9:34:30 PM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: RWR8189

I'm glad to see Krauthammer taking a far more sober position on this issue than some of his fellow Fox News (so-called) conservative analysts (Kristol and Barnes, specifically).


4 posted on 05/18/2006 9:35:56 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: APFel
Krauthammer should go back to the DU and join Moveon.

I don't know where you're coming from but you seem to be about 180 degrees out of phase with what I read in this article.

5 posted on 05/18/2006 9:40:18 PM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "Hollywood is the gold cap on a tooth that should have been pulled out years ago.")
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To: RWR8189
I do not doubt the president's sincerity in wanting to humanize and regularize the lives of America's 11 million illegal aliens.

They're not America's illegal aliens...They're (mostly) Mexico's illegal aliens that are sqatting here.

6 posted on 05/18/2006 9:40:58 PM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie (Its the philosophy, stupid.)
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To: APFel
Such choke points are exactly how you would turn the current river of illegals into narrow streams -- which is all we need to turn the illegal immigration problem from out of control to eminently manageable.

This is the salient point in a nutshell.

7 posted on 05/18/2006 9:48:54 PM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie (Its the philosophy, stupid.)
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To: Ranald S. MacKenzie
Such choke points are exactly how you would turn the current river of illegals into narrow streams -- which is all we need to turn the illegal immigration problem from out of control to eminently manageable.

Yeah, I remember saying the same thing about the House's 700 mile border wall. :-)

8 posted on 05/18/2006 10:00:37 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: APFel
"Krauthammer should go back to the DU and join Moveon. Haha. APf "

You really DO sound like an IDIOT!

9 posted on 05/18/2006 10:02:48 PM PDT by de Buillion (The USA needs a CONSERVATIVE political party NOW! (republicans don't qualify))
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10 posted on 05/18/2006 10:03:25 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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Do liberals really believe in a de facto policy that depresses the wages of the poorest and most desperate Americans, African-Americans most prominently among them?

BAM!
11 posted on 05/18/2006 10:06:27 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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President Bush promises to increase the number of border agents. That was promised in the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty legislation in 1986. The result was 11 million new illegals.

I wonder if the guys shown on the website below are some of those 11 million? Take a look, hold your nose, and realize that it's coming to your neighborhood soon.

http://www.wehategringos.com/index2.shtml

12 posted on 05/18/2006 10:09:06 PM PDT by janetgreen
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But doing so while fraudulently promising to close the border is a simple capitulation -- and an invitation to the next president to declare the next amnesty for the next torrent of illegals who will have understood from the Bush program that crossing the border at night and finding a place to hide is the surest road to the American dream.

Hmm. The way I read this Charles thinks a Lie was told in that speech. I said the same and it wasn't responded to well. Guess Charles must be out of line too? ;-)

He nails it when he references it isn't only conservatives unhappy that have been the focus of the address. This affects black Americans, union workers, and middle and poor America unfavorably. Everyone except the elites, businesses making money off cheap labor, and the illegals. Though in reality all are hurt by the Senate's/admin's proposal. They just don't have the sense to realize it.

13 posted on 05/18/2006 10:09:27 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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I concur with his points about a wall and increased enforcement. I vehemently disagree with his point about legalization. Way too many pundits are presenting the situation in all or nothing terms! Here's my point: if you build a wall, expand the border patrol, implement a nationwide, biometric based tracking system, and clamp down on businesses that hire illegals, you will turn the tide the other direction. Remove or greatly reduce the incentives for them to come, and they will stop coming. You don't have to find and deport all of them. You catch who you can and create a inhospitable environment for the rest. Shoot, you could even offer an amnesty...one that says we won't prosecute you if you get yourself back across the border within a certain period of time.

The problem is, too many of our leaders, including President Bush, want to be nice guys. Judeo-Christian ethics may be well and good on a personal level, but we are talking about a nation and the rule of law. Does anyone here think for one instant that legalizing the illegals will solve the problem? Our leaders apparently have no problem offering the proverbial carrot, but they don't have a clue when it comes time to use the stick!


14 posted on 05/18/2006 10:10:22 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: Mr. Mojo

Indeed.

IMO, it confirms his Independence from lobbyists for this policy.

Yes, he affirms some support for the GWP, but with an understanding of the harmful precedent doing so without first securement of the border. A precdent other Presidents woul then copy, while more continue to abuse our laws realizing there will be no consequence.


15 posted on 05/18/2006 10:12:38 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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To: RWR8189

Kruat has encapulated my ambivalence and frustration, about our President, on this issue, as well as some others, of less importance. Bush is living in a dream world, on this issue. He is not serious, in the sense that he is not being practical. Bush needs to take a cold shower.


16 posted on 05/18/2006 10:19:30 PM PDT by Torie
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To: RWR8189
I am not against legalization [its amnesty, Charles] Admittedly, legalization is desperately unfair to the further millions who have been waiting in line at U.S. consulates around the world. And by itself, it would only encourage future illegals. But if coupled with a program that closes down the border, it would make sense. It would resolve the problem once and for all.

Poor Charles. He is supposedly a conservative, so he must write a column critical of the illegal invasion. But, he most definitely is not part of the right-wing rabble. So he writes the column critical of Bush, but adds this paragraph so his peers know he is not one of, well....them.

Charles gives it away all too often that he is an out of touch Beltway elitist who has sneering contempt for conservatives. We need merely recall his infamous Mel Gibson Passion column for proof.

17 posted on 05/18/2006 10:22:40 PM PDT by Plutarch (Trading amnesty for border security will yield neither an end to amnesties nor border security.)
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To: Plutarch

Kraut lives in the real world. Pity, so many others, live elsewhere.


18 posted on 05/18/2006 10:34:40 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Plutarch

Yes, I fully agree Charles lives in the real world.


19 posted on 05/18/2006 10:44:07 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: APFel

You're an idiot.


20 posted on 05/18/2006 10:50:23 PM PDT by Nova
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