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Seeking United Latin America, Venezuela's Chávez Is a Divider
NY Times ^ | May 20, 2006 | JUAN FORERO

Posted on 5/20/2006, 4:28:47 AM by neverdem

BOGOTÁ, Colombia, May 19 — As Venezuela's president, Hugo Chávez, insinuates himself deeper in the politics of his region, something of a backlash is building among his neighbors.

Mr. Chávez — stridently anti-American, leftist and never short on words — has cast himself as spokesman for a united Latin America free of Washington's influence. He has backed Bolivia's recent gas nationalization, set up his own Socialist trade bloc and jumped into the middle of disputes between his neighbors, even when no one has asked.

Some nations are beginning to take umbrage. The mere association with Mr. Chávez has helped reverse the leads of presidential candidates in Mexico and Peru. Officials from Mexico to Nicaragua, Peru and Brazil have expressed rising impatience at what they see as Mr. Chávez's meddling and grandstanding, often at their expense.

Diplomatic sparring has broken into the open. Last month, after very public sniping between Mr. Chávez and Peru's president, Alejandro Toledo, the country withdrew its ambassador from Caracas, citing "flagrant interference" in its affairs.

"He goes around shooting from the hip and shooting his mouth off, and that has caused tensions," Jorge G. Castañeda, a former Mexican foreign minister, said by phone from New York, where he is teaching at New York University. "The difference now is that he's picking fights with his friends, not just his adversaries."

Some of Mr. Chávez's gestures, like his tendency to tweak the Bush administration, or the aid projects he has bankrolled with Venezuela's oil money, still leave him popular, particularly among the poor.

But increasingly, the very image of the Venezuelan leader has come to stand for a style of caustic nationalism that many in the region fear, as the divisions provoked by the man who professes to want to unify his region have widened.

"He is beginning..."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: chavez; hugochavez; latinamerica; venezuela
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1 posted on 5/20/2006, 4:28:49 AM by neverdem
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To: neverdem
trying to play him off as a non-issue,good old new york times
2 posted on 5/20/2006, 4:31:55 AM by kinoxi
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To: neverdem

He is a cancer .. will he outlive Fidel? not likely at this rate.


3 posted on 5/20/2006, 4:33:03 AM by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: kinoxi
trying to play him off as a non-issue,good old new york times

What makes you say that? They just described him as stepping in it more often than not. What's the U.S. supposed to do about it at this point in time?

4 posted on 5/20/2006, 4:41:12 AM by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
the implication that his neighbors don't respect or want to deal with him(venezuela) is preposterous. the nyt's is trying to belittle this leftist freak(in my opinion) to set the stage for a 'Bush is an animal' type of attack when he does something about this cretin. it's my opinion.
5 posted on 5/20/2006, 4:47:47 AM by kinoxi
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To: neverdem; proud_yank

He certainly isn't endearing himself to some of his Latin neighbors. That could wind up being a serious mistake, even fatal.


6 posted on 5/20/2006, 4:50:11 AM by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: kinoxi

"the implication that his neighbors don't respect or want to deal with him(venezuela) is preposterous. the nyt's is trying to belittle this leftist freak(in my opinion) to set the stage for a 'Bush is an animal' type of attack when he does something about this cretin. it's my opinion."

They are specifically calling Chavez a divider and destructive meddler; that's not the same as a non-entity. Let's at least give credit where it's due. If we say the Times is bad even when they get the story right, how credible are our critiques?


7 posted on 5/20/2006, 6:05:53 AM by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: neverdem

But...but...Hugo has a Schutzstaffel! He will be 'President for life'!

Even the peckerheads at the NYT are abandoning this Hitler wannabe.

See you in hell, Hugo.


8 posted on 5/20/2006, 6:09:55 AM by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: BackInBlack
i understand and mostly agree with your statement. this is the left's new castro,he must be seen as the victim.
9 posted on 5/20/2006, 6:14:12 AM by kinoxi
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To: neverdem

Chavez apparently threatened to remove Venezuela's ambassador to Peru, and Peru preempted him and withdrew its ambassador to Venezuela.


10 posted on 5/20/2006, 6:40:14 AM by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: neverdem

The great thing about Chavez's government is that the US only has to sit back and let it implode. This guy's idiocy will solve itself.... most likely with a bullet in his head.


11 posted on 5/20/2006, 7:22:56 AM by jcs1744
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To: neverdem

latin america is headed for a down ward spiral. (yes, it can get worse believe it or not). Let us build a multi tiered fence when we have the time.


12 posted on 5/20/2006, 7:27:18 AM by The Lion Roars
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Mexico told the Venezuelan Ambassador to get out earlier this year. Say what you want about Mexico, they're the big dog down there. Mr. Ego seems to be too big for the continent.
13 posted on 5/20/2006, 7:32:57 AM by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

Although by American standards Mexico is low, Mexico is either the largest Latin American economy, or second, after Brazil. Chavez also personally insulted Vicente Fox.


14 posted on 5/20/2006, 8:11:24 AM by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: neverdem
If the New york Times has written this, it is the beginning of the end for Chavez.

They paint him as a bigmouthed clown; that is bad for dictator street cred.

15 posted on 5/20/2006, 12:46:05 PM by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: neverdem
That President Bush allowed Jimmy Carter to legitimize this creep is beyond comprehension, a major foreign policy blunder.
16 posted on 5/20/2006, 3:24:45 PM by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

If we praise the bullet just like we praised Fidel's we will wait forever. We must act quick.


17 posted on 5/24/2006, 7:46:19 AM by obusquets
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To: Carry_Okie

Carter was allowed in Venezuela because he blesses the communist's views of Chavez. Carter is a communist.


18 posted on 5/24/2006, 7:47:45 AM by obusquets
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To: obusquets
Carter is a communist.

Carter is Rockefeller's errand boy. He's more fascist than communist, but then so is the globalist left in general.

19 posted on 5/24/2006, 10:55:45 AM by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine; Cincinatus' Wife
If the New york Times has written this, it is the beginning of the end for Chavez.

Yes, you know it's bad when the leftist applause-machine starts emitting raspberries. I read a lot about Latin America, and he has really annoyed - or possibly even enraged - even his leftist buddies down there. And his little pawn, Evo Morales, is doing his best to make the situation worse, by things like "semi-nationalizing" a Brazilian gas company (Brazil's president is a leftist, but he regarded it as virtually an act of war).

Chavez is afflicted with megalomania, and I suspect this will be his undoing. Unless of course his bosom buddies the Iranians share some of their nuke technology with him.

Ping to CW.

20 posted on 5/24/2006, 11:01:54 AM by livius
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