The Massive Yet Tiny Engine (gearhead tech breakthrough!)

American Antigravity ^ | 5/12/2006 | Tin Ventura

[ovrtaxt]

Imagine dumping the big V-8 in your SUV for a 25-pound, 2.4 liter engine that gives you 150 miles per gallon on biodiesel - with a boost in horsepower and torque to boot. Meet Raphial Morgado and the little engine that could... With up to 40 times the power to weight ratio of a conventional engine, flexible fuel compatibility, a displacement of 850 cubic inches and the torque of a 32-cylinder engine, the MYT is the beginning of a new paradigm for engines in the 21st century!

"The inspiration for the MYT Engine design came from the need to have an engine that can stand up to the tremendous abuse of drag racing. After literally blowing up more than my share of engines during racing, I swore to myself that I'd build something that met the required needs while providing higher-durability & reduced complexity in the process. Also, because this design was originally intended for the output demands of the drag-strip, I wanted a design that would give me the largest displacement, highest torque, and lightest weight available. The Massive Yet Tiny engine meets those needs, with 850 cubic inches of displacement, 32-pulses per cycle, and a 150 pound package measuring only 14" by 14" in diameter."

"By replacing an 800 pound V-8 engine with a 25 pound MYT and running it on biodiesel, we can achieve 150 miles per gallon in an otherwise conventional vehicle -- plus, you're going to have better take-off and stopping power by removing that 800 pound engine. That's what we can do. It is achievable." - Raphial Morgado

The MYT engine is the result of a $4 million dollar R&D project undertaken by Angel Labs LLC to build the ultimate internal combusion engine. Inspired by drag racing, inventor Raphial Morgado designed the engine with a focus on power, torque, and fuel-efficiency to meet the hefty demands of the today's automotive applications in a lightweight package. The result was a revolutionary design with a power-to-weight ratio up to 40 to 1, over 3,000 ft/lbs of torque, and a diesel-mode mileage in excess of 150 mpg!

This series of 3 videoclips provides an in-depth look at what the MYT is, how it works, and why it's important. The "Los Angeles Auto-Show Presentation" features a 10-minute commentary on the technology by inventor Raphial Morgado, and provides details on the background of the engine and what makes it so unique. The "MYT Engine Description" clip is a 5-minute narrated animation providing a walk-through on the operation of the engine and how it compares to traditional interal combustion technology, and the "MYT Engine Testing" video shows both a closeup rotation of the cylinders in the Angel Labs prototype, as well as 2 minutes of test-videos shot with the MYT in dyno-testing on a 150-psi non-combustion airstream.

[ovrtaxt]

Thanks for the info!

[strategofr]

""A little over a year ago, the mysterious "Kosol" appeared in the newsgroups with a grandiose plan for antigravity based on what he claims is information from spiritual beings. Many think it's a hoax, but his newsgroup is rapidly becoming an online cultural phenomenon, and rumors are beginning to circulate about European efforts to construct a device called, "The Kosol Sphere"..."

Thanks. Before I read your post, I was starting to doubt the credibility of this new engine. But if they bring in antigravity...yeah, that should work, as long as they get the polarity right. It's really quite unpleasant when one of those engines drive you into the ground instead of lifting you up.

[Matchett-PI]

"...yeah, that should work, as long as they get the polarity right"

Re: "..a grandiose plan for antigravity based on what he claims is information from spiritual beings."

Well how could they go wrong? I mean they're getting their "antigravity" information from "spiritual beings", right??? /sarcasm

[calljack]

and I have a 67 Camaro in the driveway and a 65 Mustang in the garage to back it up.

A man after my own heart. Make the 67 Camaro (cool chick car) a 68 firebird (cool guy car)and we have the same garage.

(Firebird guy just has to diss the camaro guy, but just a little.)

[strategofr]

"they're getting their "antigravity" information from "spiritual beings", right???"

It's a match, allright.

[Nuc1]

"I'd like to see an AWD car with one of these things at each wheel."

I suspect you wouldn't need one at each wheel. They would be very difficult to synchronize in any case. If say...you had a 300 hp engine at each wheel you have the equivalent shaft horsepower of a 1200 Hp engine. Not something you would ever be able to use on the street. The practical limit for the street is about 500 to 600 Hp. This level is very difficult to hook up without racing tires and you are talking about double that so driving it would be similar I think to driving a powerful v6 on snow a far as hook up goes. Of course you would be unique. ;)

[Nuc1]

"This engine is small enough to put in a motorcycle. The real question is power band and low end torque, which is pretty hard to get without mass, but who knows, lets see it in application. My vote is to sling it onto a Harley Chasis and tranny and lets see it work in application!"

Looks like this gizmo has plenty of low end torque and a broad power band. At least that is what they claim and the design concept would indicate that claim is true. Just consider power stroke overlap for example. When they wrote about scalability I thought almost immediately about motorcycles. Weren't they talking about 300 Hp at about 75 lbm? The power to weight ratio yould could get would be pretty awesome. I gotta admit the possibilities light me up like I used to fry the rubber on my 454 Camaro. Dang it is exciting if you are a gear head. :) Man Camaro didn't spell check, how lame.

[Hardastarboard]

They're V8's, a lot of them with aluminum blocks (for weight saving). They go as much as 600 cubic inches and produce so much horsepower that it can't be measured with conventional instruments. Some estimates are in the neighborhood of 7,000 horsepower. Your family sedan may have 200 if it's been designed to be a little sporty.

A AA/FD dragster will burn 7 gallons of liquid nitromethane (commonly used as an industrial explosive) faster than you can walk along and kick over 7 one gallon buckets.

They travel through the quarter mile at over 300 miles per hour (they've been capable of that for many years, but the strips kept the top speeds down to minimize their insurance costs. They've only relented in the last few years on the top speed). E.T.'s tend to be in the high 4 second / low 5 second range.

They're pretty fussy to tune as well. Since they're burning such copious quantities of fuel and air, everything has to be tuned and timed quite accurately. I heard a story of one getting too much fuel into a cylinder once, getting hydraulic lock (liquids are incompressible) and blowing the head right off the engine into the stands, killing a spectator.

They run open exhausts, short pipes venting straight into the air. Imagine roughly 6,000 explosions per minute venting through a eight 2" pipes, and you can imagine the noise. My buddy said he and a friend went the the NHRA Summernationals in Indy one year. They have a stretched steel walkway over the strip where you can stand and watch the action from above the dragsters. He said you literally can scream at the top of your lungs and not be heard at all. Cigarette butts dance about a half inch off the deck from the vibration. They are some forces of "nature" indeed.

[Nuc1]

"If each cylinder is dieseling at 32 pulses per rotation, that will generate substantial heat and the air flow to cool the engine will have to be quite remarkble, but lets see what they come up with."

I agree with you but their web sight indicates the engine is oil cooled. I guess you could do that perhaps with an oil spray and cooler arrangement, but I would like to see the system. One thing though it appears to have small size and high output so it looks like there is plenty of room for cooling fins. :)

[knews_hound]

I loved this article and your thoughtful comments.  Since you expressed an interest in either Engineering or Drag Racing, I thought you might enjoy this site.  Rather than a 500 Cubic Inch Engine, this guy has made a 5 cubic inch one, and built a blower for it as well.  I highly suggest looking at the video and reading about the incredible attention to detail he brought to the project.




This engine is less than 12 inches long.  Imagine the time it took to create this....

I also have some facts about Top Fuel Dragsters that you might find interesting.  Forgive me if you read this on a previous post.

Top Fuel Dragsters

One Top Fuel dragster's 500-cubic-inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first four rows at the Daytona 500.

A stock Dodge Hemi V-8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air-fuel mixture for nitromethane, the flame front temperature measures about 7000 degrees Fahrenheit.

Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, separated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing heat of the exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

Spark plug electrodes can be totally consumed during a single pass. After half-distance, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees Fahrenheit. The engine is shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

If a spark plug fails early in the run, un-burned nitro can build up in the affected cylinder and explode with sufficient force to blow the cylinder head off in pieces or split the cylinder block in half.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate at an average of more than 4 g's. In order to reach 200 mph before half-distance, the launch acceleration approaches 8 g's. A Top Fuel dragster reaches more than 300 mph before you have completed reading this sentence.

With a redline that can be as high as 9500 rpm, Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light. Including the burnout, the engine needs to survive only 900 revolutions under load.

Assuming that all of the equipment is paid off, the crew works gratis, and nothing breaks, each run costs an estimated $1000 per second.

The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter-mile (October 5, 2003, Tony Schumacher). The top-speed record is 333.25 mph as measured over the last 66 feet of the quarter-mile (November 9, 2003, Doug Kalitta).

knewshound edit, this has since been surpassed.

Putting all of this into perspective: You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo Corvette Z06. More than a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a measured quarter-mile as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the Vette up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The "tree" goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down, but you hear a brutal whine that sears your eardrums, and within three seconds, the dragster catches you and beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile from where you just passed him. From a standing start, the dragster spotted you 200 mph and not only caught you but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 feet. Thats why I follow Top Fuel.  It is the epitome of High Performance.

Cheers,

knewshound

In Pakistan, the beating continues

[rvoitier]

Thanks a lot, Hardastarboard!

Quite fascinating. Sorry to hear about that unlucky spectator, though.

[decal]

"Coincidentally I was part of running a non-functioning engine prototype on compressed air while working a summer job (for an investor demo)."

Was it MDI?

http://www.theaircar.com/

Their biggest problem was weight. The only way to make it work was to build vehicles so light as to be dangerous in traffic - the models only weighed 1650 pounds (a Toyota Corolla outweighs it by 1000 pounds).

[JDoutrider]

Bump for later consumption

[balrog666]

Looks like this gizmo has plenty of low end torque and a broad power band. At least that is what they claim and the design concept would indicate that claim is true.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

In all their years of scamming they still haven't put together a working engine.

[Candor7]

If the engine works as avertized, a tandem mounting of them side by side, or driving a huge pump would make for one hell of a go boat, nothing but props and a rudder in the water.

Of course a pump arrangement would surely put such a boat into one of the fastest shallow draft rides ever.

[CertainInalienableRights]

Thanks for the Top Fuel info, knews_hound.

I don't live far from Norwalk Raceway Park in Norwalk OH. I try to make it to the Top Fuel meets, if I can.

Nothing compares to the feeling in your chest from the shockwaves of a top fuel dragster as it goes screaming past.

Even the jet cars don't do it for me like top fuel.

[GOPJ]

bump

[King Prout]

I'm all for it, but call "bullsh!t" until I see the results of multiple independent tests-to-destruction

[RightWhale]

It's a simple case of running at a higher temperature. The cooling fins for this motor weigh 12 tons.

[King Prout]

oh, is that all?