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This op-ed is from 2001. The WSJ's stance has not changed, it just somewhat muted since 9-11.
1 posted on 05/21/2006 10:47:45 PM PDT by Plutarch
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They should have an idiot alert with that thinking in a 9/11 world.


2 posted on 05/21/2006 10:49:12 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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I believe in open borders ... but they must be open BOTH ways. Mexico cannot expect to export it's people to the USA with impunity without allowing the reverse.

US citizens should DEMAND to be able to move into Mexico anytime and work, buy property, own businesses, etc.


3 posted on 05/21/2006 10:51:10 PM PDT by Lorianne
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Vincente Fox raises eyebrows with his suggestion that over a decade or two

Yeah, sure, but in the meantime we should control who we allow in.

4 posted on 05/21/2006 10:53:58 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("I don't think Pat Kennedy is crazy, he's just a drunk" -- G. Gordon Liddy (5-10-06))
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wow, thanks for the post. I knew they were nuts on this issue, now I know it goes back to completely open borders, which is plain ludicrous.


7 posted on 05/21/2006 10:58:07 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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And after all, we did have a long history of unlimited quotas for Western Hemisphere immigrants, ending only in 1965.

Oh really?

The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster

"Born of liberal ideology, the 1965 bill abolished the national origins quota system that had regulated the ethnic composition of immigration in fair proportion to each group's existing presence in the population. In a misguided application spirit of the civil rights era, the Kennedy and Johnson Administrations saw these ethnic quotas as an archaic form of chauvinism. Moreover, as Cold Warriors facing charges of "racism" and "imperialism," they found the system rhetorically embarrassing."

"Senate floor manager and Camelot knight-errant Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, assured jittery senators that "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually." Time has proven otherwise. Average immigration levels before the 1965 amendments took effect hovered around 300,000 per annum. Yet 1,045,000 legal immigrants flooded our cities in 1996 alone."

"America's current mass immigration mess is the result of a change in the laws in 1965. Prior to 1965, despite some changes in the 50's, America was a low-immigration country basically living under immigration laws written in 1924. Thanks to low immigration, the swamp of cheap labor was largely drained during this period, America became a fundamentally middle-class society, and our many European ethnic groups were brought together into a common national culture."

"In some ways, this achievement was so complete that we started to take for granted what we had achieved and forgot why it happened. So in a spasm of sentimentality on the Right and lies on the Left, we opened the borders."

13 posted on 05/21/2006 11:13:51 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Open borders = One-World government

To many, that is the ultimate goal.

14 posted on 05/21/2006 11:15:53 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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I think that one day, The North American continent will be a gigantic economic and political powerhouse similar to Europe but I think that a lot depends on Mexico. They need to restructure their economy where to utilizes is natural resources in effecient manner. Mexico is a member of OPEC but does not use the oil revenue money to uplift Mexico's poor. Instead, oil revenue is in the pockets of the elite class. Also the Mexican Government needs to eliminate the corruption in all levels of government including law enforcement. They also need to give more money to educating its citizens where they can fully access the benefits of a middle class system. Mexico currently spends only 4 percent of their adjusted Gross Domestic Product on educating its citizens. To have a vibrant economy you need an educated class. Also, Mexico is the stopping point for drugs entering the United States. They have not done enough to stop the drug barons along the border. In fact, there is evidence to suggest that the members of the Mexican Army is aiding the drug barons. The Mexican Government has a long way to go before they can with a straight face convince the American people to erase the border lines. It is however a tantalizing and intriguing idea and could give the European Union a run for its money.


18 posted on 05/21/2006 11:28:17 PM PDT by garbageseeker ("Opinion is ultimately determined by feeling and not by intellect" Herbert Spenser)
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We should call the new country

Meximerica!

Or if we opened it up to Canada, too, we could call it

MexiCanMerica, CanMexAmerica, CanAmMex, or CanaMexAm.

or simply call the the C.A.M.

I like that. Sounds cool. Next time a foreigner will say "Let's go to CAM." It's a place known for its camping, cameras, Computer Aided Manufacturing.


21 posted on 05/21/2006 11:38:07 PM PDT by freddymuldoon
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I made an egregious error on my post and I would like the opportunity to fix my mistake

I said that Mexico spends 4 percent of their GDP on education. That is false. According to the World Bank, Mexico spends 5.3 percent of their GDP on education and on health care about 6.10 percent of their GDP. This does not erase the fact that education and health care is required for social mobility
Freepers, please forgive me for my mistake.
22 posted on 05/22/2006 12:00:20 AM PDT by garbageseeker ("Opinion is ultimately determined by feeling and not by intellect" Herbert Spenser)
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The WSJ should open their website to show us the way. Bunch of hypocrites.


23 posted on 05/22/2006 12:31:46 AM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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"ONLY THOSE ARE FIT TO LIVE WHO ARE NOT AFRAID TO DIE."
Gen. McArthur.

Now all illegals will leave if Americans get some guts. Get your rotten, stinking, thinking and your heads out of the ground.

Crops can be picked and the illegals can go back home. The same was true in the 50's when Canadians picked my uncle's apple orchards. JUST SAY NO TO MEXICO.


26 posted on 05/22/2006 4:33:35 AM PDT by Lumper20
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Open Borders? Why Not?



A nation without borders is not a nation. And the WSJ is rapidly turning into a profits over national sovereignty traitorous POS.


32 posted on 05/22/2006 7:29:02 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
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I don't know how many times I saw people attacked on this forum for being a Libertarian BECAUSE of the open borders issue. Now many of those attackers use "free trade" as the reason for open borders. The lemmings in political debate will always be there, although I believed that "conservatives" believed in country first. I guess the real reason to hate Libertarians was that they refused to vote a straight ticket reliably.


33 posted on 05/22/2006 7:47:19 AM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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This is why I loathe WSJ opinion pieces. Vulgar capitalists! They can be as obtusely doctrinaire as any pack of Marxists.

I'll take National Review on most any issue because their writers still understand that at least there are a few things that are not up for sale and that are still things more important than the almighty dollar.
35 posted on 05/22/2006 8:18:29 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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How on earth can so many people think a merger with a 3rd world country would be anything but disastrous for the United States? Mexico's standard of living will increase somewhat while America's standard of living declines. The notion is pathetic.


37 posted on 05/22/2006 8:26:00 AM PDT by Junior_G
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Like the Senate, the WSJ sees this country as nothing more than a marketplace.


42 posted on 05/22/2006 5:30:05 PM PDT by toddlintown
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