Posted on 05/22/2006 4:26:39 PM PDT by no dems
O.K. Freepers, here’s the list of Pubbies who voted with the Dems Thursday to give Social Security benefits to Illegal Aliens.
Brownback (KS)
Chafee (RI)
DeWine (OH)
Graham (SC)
Hagel (NE)
Lugar (IN)
Martinez (FL)
McCain (AZ)
Specter (PA)
Stevens (AK)
Voinovich (OH)
I must admit that I was shocked by Brownback’s and Lugar’s votes.
WOW! I saw Dobbs on the tube earlier and boy was he upset that our reps, including the RATS, weren't listening to the opposing voices of the American people against granting ANYTHING to illegal immigrants! MY GOSH, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO KICK SOME HEADS UP AT THE CAP?!! ugh!
disgusting
Why does seeing McCain on the list not surprise me.
I knew before I even looked that my POS Senator Specter was in on it.
Excellent question. I sure wish I knew the answer.
Despite the (R), I see no conservatives on that list.
I certainly wasn't surprised by RINO Graham's vote. I'm looking forward to the day that the good people of South Carolina kick that lying lowlife out of office. Can't be long now; I think he has but two more years left...might be wrong though.
My view is that it is all a scam.....
To collect SS there must be money paid to the number account. If the illeagals use a bogus account they can never collect any thing against that account. If they become legal, they must have a new SS number and deposited funds accrue from that date.
I'm wondering what happens to the 4000+ using ONE SS number that's been reported....is money going into that ONE account? Course, ICE, INS, and IRS won't talk with each other (privacy laws, ya know).......THAT'S the PROBLEM, me thinks.
2005: 100; 2004: 96; Lifetime: 95
That's a pretty conservative voting record, DO.
Anybody who has passion about the surrender of American culture that is being engineered by the president and his business pals is making a big mistake if they are still watching Brit every night to see what the lame FOX "allstars" will say.
Over on CNN (never thought I'd say such)Dobbs is givin'en hell, a whole hour of hell every weeknight during Brit's hour.
You are being way to kind
Democrats are not on the list?
Yes it is. Good point. I still have to pound him on this issue though.
2005: 100 Liftetime: 96
If it lists them, I'd like to see what issues these two veered off the beaten track on. It could prove informative.
well, Ohio's illustrious duo show up again on a list of shame!
GRAHAM: 2005: 96%; 2004: 92%; Years of Service: 11; Lifetime: 91%. While he has twisted our shorts over the last few years on some important issues, he has a pretty conservative voting record.
Where is the AARP on this issue with regard to Social Security?
When the FICA TAX IS doubled with not maximum for employees and employers, may be the people will see the impact of all of the illegal immigration?
The same goes for the MEDICARE tax withheld from the paycheck.
There is no free ride for illegal aliens!
Well I hope President Bush and Santorum are pleased to have supported RINO specter.....and Santorum will pay the price come election day.....
Maybe we should vote them ALL out of office and start over....starting with McPain....
I will look into it, but while we can trash these three on immigration, they are consistently conservative senators.
.........is money going into that ONE account?....
We have not been given that info. Pesumably the SSA knows of the bogus payments to heavily used bogus numbers. That money is in the treasury and cannot be given to the illegals simply because we don't know who they really are. I can see no reason how they could ever collect benefits for the period they are not legally known by the system
The other question is what about illegals using my number? Do I get the benefits and will my monthly paymnet grow as a result?
That's why I think this is all a scam.
well, Ohio's illustrious duo show up again on a list of shame!
Oh yeah! Let's all be sure to rush out and return these two to office...........
And let's not forget that NOT one of these SOB's who represent us pay into Social Security! They have their own retirement accounts that us legals can't even get!
If I voted 100% along ACU lines and then voted to extend SS benefits to people who had no identification, were here illegaly and in violation of our nations laws by even working here, how would you rate me?
That's how I rate them, at the very least on this issue.
This is a defining issue for me.
“Nobody ever called me a great builder or a great general,” he lamented, “but let me suck ~one~ little _ _ _ _ and what do they call me?”
Brownback has done some good things, but he is badly wrong on one little issue. And it is defines him now, another RINO along with McCain, Graham, Specter and the rest.
from Rass after the speech...
55% Say Immigration "Very Important" Voting Issue
Survey of 1,000 Likely Voters
May 16, 2006
Immigration in Terms of Voting
Very Important 55%
Somewhat Important 29%
Not Very Important 12%
Not at All Important 3%
RasmussenReports.com
May 17, 2006--Fifty-five percent (55%) of Americans say that the immigration issue is "very important" in terms of how they will vote this November. Another 29% say it is somewhat important.
The Rasmussen Reports national opinion survey taken the night after the President's nationally televised address also highlighted a common misconception about the immigration debate.
Media commentaries often suggest that support for an enforcement first policy is an option supported primarily by conservatives. In fact, 67% of political moderates support such an approach. That's virtually indistinguishable from the 66% of conservatives who support for enforcement-first approach. Fifty-two percent (52%) of self-identified liberals also hold this view.
Most voters who hold an enforcement-first perspective also favor a national policy that welcomes all immigrants (except national security threats, criminals, and welfare seekers).
Those results are consistent with earlier research that show most Americans recognize our nation as both a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws.
Fifty-three percent (53%) believe that strict enforcement of immigration laws and control of the border would help the economy. Just 21% believe strict enforcement would hurt the economy while 14% say it would have no impact.
Data released separately shows that just 39% of Americans agree with President Bush's approach on the immigration issue. An equal number disagree.
Other data from the survey shows that Democrats now enjoy a 15-point advantage on the Generic Congressional Ballot. That's up from a 10-point lead two weeks ago.
These results are generally similar to earlier surveys on the immigration issue. A separate survey conducted the night of President Bush's speech found that just 27% of Americans believe the country is heading in the right direction.
A look at all of our research on this topic makes it clear that neither political party has yet developed policy or rhetoric that reflect an understanding of the nuances of the immigration debate. We have recently released immigration related polling data on May 3, April 26, April 11, April 7, and April 1.
Earlier surveys on immigration have found support for building a barrier along the Mexican border and positive attitudes towards citizen patrols along the border. Another survey found that most Americans consider current immigration laws a threat to both national security and the economy. Three-fourths of all Americans believe it is too easy for people from other countries to enter the United States.
Attitudes towards immigration do not fall neatly along typical partisan, demographic, or ideological lines. For this reason, among others, the immigration issue ultimately has the potential to shake up the current partisan alignment in the nation.
However, the impact of the issue varies widely by region. In several southwestern states, the issue is considered more important than the situation in Iraq by roughly half of all voters.
Years of Service: 15:
Lifetime Rating: 88%
Now, how prudent would it be to replace a Pennsylvania Republican, with an ACU lifetime rating of close to 90%, and simply because he backed Arlen?
Well, that should qualify him to go head to head with Hillary on the Dem ticket. Right?
Oh, Wait! Isn't he considered one of the Republican front-runners against Hillary in '08?
Hey, somebody gimme a sanity pill, quick! I'm hallucinating!
... the Wall Of Shame...
It's okay but you will have to admit that you are a single issue voter.
There was a time when Richard Lugar was a reliable conservative but he's gotten too fat and comfortable mingling with the "in" crowd in Washington. He been a total RINO for the last 5 or 6 years now.
Don't blame me, I just moved back here, and would have voted against Dewine in the primary if I had been around for it.
What the hell is going on????
You're right it's an infantile joke. So you are willing to hang Brownback, with a lifetime ACU rating of 95%, because you believe he is wrong on this issue? If so, the joke is on you.
Over on CNN (never thought I'd say such)Dobbs is givin'en hell, a whole hour of hell every weeknight during Brit's hour.
Bingo. I've switched from Brit to Lou Dobbs at the 5 o'clock hour. I'm so used to having watched Brit Hume all the time that occasionally I forget to switch to Lou, like I did tonite, which makes me mad at myself. Luckily, both programs are repeated later on in the night, so you really don't have to miss either. But I am so PO'd at Brit and his Allstars and their support of the immigration bill, that I can't stand to watch their roundtable when the issue of immigration comes up. I'd like to bop Fred Barnes in the nose. He's the worst of them all on this topic. And I'm real surprised that Brit agrees w/the Prez's point of view on immigration. Guess he isn't as conservative as I thought he was; either that, or he's like the Bushbot Freepers who go along w/anything the Prez wants.
How can you realistically claim that Republicans with ACU ratings of either close to or well over 90% are RINOs?
If someone were to tell you that there was a nuclear plot to destroy New York, and all you had to do to fix it was to get your elected officials to enforce our nation's laws, would that make you a single issue voter.
If twenty million illegal aliens are naturalized, each of them can bring over a number of close family members. What's 4 times 20 million?
I care about a number of issues, but if this nation has been so altered by a set of people that can be bought for the price of a few government programs, what good will the nation be?
Those that use the one issue tag don't qualify to participate in this debate as far as I am concerned.
And also, when income is reported on a SS#, you can bet the IRS will take note when the real holder of the SS# does not report that income, (since they did not know about it).
The ACU always lists the 16 - 22 votes that it counts each year and it is good to look into. One year one of my Senators - Hutchison of Texas - was much lower than usual. She had voted against the ACU four times out of 18 or 20. I looked up the votes and one was to close a couple of bases in Texas which she HAD to oppose and another I agreed with her position. With those two she was back in her normal 90% range.
Specter is a Democrat already. He talks and walks like a Democrat.
He's always been one, in fact he started out as one.
No, the joke is on your children and grandchilren who will be stuck with the effects of Brownbeck's lunatic vote.
What's Lugar's problem? And Graham, I didn't think he was going to be sucking up to McCain on everything. Thought he was smarter than that.
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