Posted on 05/24/2006 12:58:19 PM PDT by truthkeeper
I'm not an expert at this stuff, but I get the feeling this could be a big deal. Apparently this Point of Order is being raised by Senators Sessions and Allard and states that the massive budget and fiscal impact of this bill violates previous spending caps in existing law.
Good debate going on, Nelson (D) of Nebraska is on board too.
Unbelievably, Teddy is up right now saying this bill will REDUCE the deficit by $12 million a year! "You aren't considering what will be coming in!" (It would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.) And yikes, Lindsay Graham is backing him up.
Senator Sessions said he plans to educate the American public - and his colleagues - about the costs associated with this bill. Should be quite informative...I hope it gets a lot of play. He's already stated there would be a $29 billion payout in EITC payments to illegals over the first few years.
GO Sessions!
Sessions BTTT
Yes, however did we get along without them?
I just saw Kennedy shut down by a simple question by Tom Coburn. Kennedy rambled non-sensically on for a few minutes, then yielded to Graham, who is in training to be the best shifty liar in the Senate.
At least two of them are putting the interests of citizens in front of the interests of immigrants:
ALLARD Calls Immigration Bill a “Budget Buster”
Washington D.C. – U.S. Senator Wayne Allard (R-Colorado) raised a budget point of order on Wednesday in an effort to bring to light the total cost of the Senate’s immigration bill, and the impact it will have on the Federal Budget.
“I have grave concerns with the effects of this bill on the future of our country, not the least of which is its potential fiscal impact,” Senator Allard Said. “The fiscal impact can be summed up in two words: ‘budget buster.’”
Federal budget rules state that any member may challenge legislation that increases federal spending by $5 billion in any 10-year period beginning in 2016.
“The Congressional Budget Office estimates that this legislation would increase direct spending by $54 billion over the next ten years,” said Senator Allard. “While it is estimated to increase only $13 billion over the first five years, during the course of the second five years, it is expected to skyrocket up $41 billion as the amnesty provisions in the current bill begin to kick in.”
“As a senior member of the Senate Budget Committee, I feel that it is my duty to bring to the attention of the American people, the staggering impact this piece of legislation will have on the fiscal health of this country. This issue has not been thoughtfully considered,” said Senator Allard.
“A vote for this amendment is a vote to increase federal spending, expand entitlement programs to millions of people who entered this country illegally,” said Senator Allard.
between this and the William Jefferson story, getting LOADS of entertainment value out of the Capitol Hill Clowns today
Sen. Sessions To Offer A Budget Point Of Order On The Senate Immigration Bill
Tuesday, May 23, 2006
WASHINGTON – Citing the “staggering” fiscal impact of the Senate immigration bill on the federal budget, U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) today announced that he will raise a budget point of order in an effort to derail the bill. Under Senate budget rules, any member may challenge legislation that increases federal spending by $5 billion in any 10-year period beginning in 2016. Because a Congressional Budget Office cost estimate states that the Senate immigration bill will increase federal spending by $54 billion in the first 10 years alone, it is reasonable to expect that spending will far exceed the $5 billion threshhold in future 10-year periods.
“Before this debate concludes, my colleagues will have to decide whether they want this egregious bill enough to bust the budget,” Sessions said. “At a time when we’re already facing huge federal deficits, it is the height of irresponsiblity to pass legislation that we know will add hundreds of billions of dollars to that deficit. This issue has yet to be thoughtfully considered, much less openly debated, in the Senate. It’s my hope that the budget point of order will trigger such a debate.”
Sessions hosted a roundtable discussion today with Robert Rector, senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, and Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies.
Rector, who today described the bill as a “fiscal catastrophe,” said the measure would prove to be the largest expansion of government welfare in 35 years. According to Rector, the bill would increase long-term federal spending by at least $50 billion a year.
For example, Medicaid spending would increase by $33 billion a year if a third of the nation’s 10 million illegal aliens who will get amnesty under the bill bring in a single elderly parent. Medicaid payments for the elderly today average around $11,000 per person per year.
“These are staggering numbers that indicate that this bill might have costs as great as half a trillion dollars in any 10-year period,” Sessions said. “This means this bill is a huge, monumental budget buster.”
If the Senate votes to waive the budget and continue to move toward passage of the bill, Sessions hopes his colleagues will at least vote to pass his amendment to prohibit amnestied illegal aliens from getting the earned income tax credit (EITC), which is a form of welfare designed to benefit low income American families. Under the Senate bill, they would be eligible to receive the credit.
“Current illegal aliens should be precluded from receiving tax credits and benefits which were created to assist low income American workers,” Sessions said.
According to the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation, the bill would increase payments for refundable tax credits, including the EITC, by $29.4 billion.
"Unbelievably, Teddy is up right now saying this bill will REDUCE the deficit by $12 million a year! "You aren't considering what will be coming in!""
Bipartisan driniking of business lobbby talking points laundered through ethnic front group NGOs. LOL.
Why don't we let in 100 million and make zillions more!
"yielded to Graham, who is in training to be the best shifty liar in the Senate."
Pence and Graham both bidding for business lobby money for their 2008 presidential runs.
BTTT
Oh, I thought Sessions brought it up. Thanks for posting this. Yes, Allard pointed out how sneaky they were in crafting the timelines of this bill; to skirt existing law, much does not "kick in" until year 6. Then the costs become even more astronomical.
Thanks for the heads up..DeMint is now speaking against his SC teammate, Graham..who prefers to support Ted Kennedy's postion..pershaps DeMInt should be the SENIOR senator from SC..
"Yes, however did we get along without them?"
When Graham says "getting the economy going" by "economy" he means the short-term profit margins for businesses that cannot outsource their labor overseas. Globalist Democrats on board too, they have nothing to fear from their base. They are held at bay with threatened charges of racism if they voice dissent.
These jerks are getting absolutely brazen. Aren't they supposed to work for US?
Beam me up, Scotty.
And now here's our good friend Sen. McCain to explain it all to the rest of us dummies.
"Martinez: "When Italian-Americans came to this country they introduced pizza.""
LOL.
Alternate universe. We already insource up to one million immigrants legally.
They always trip up when they try to explain why their proposals are "good" for us.
McInsane is up now, losing his kewl.
lol
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