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Chimp poop 'reveals AIDS' origins'
The Australian ^ | 5/25/06 | staff

Posted on 05/25/2006 1:30:25 PM PDT by pissant

RESEARCHERS who picked up and analysed wild chimp droppings said today they had shown how the AIDS virus originated in wild apes in Cameroon and then spread in humans across Africa and eventually the world. Their study, published in the journal Science, supports other studies that suggest people somehow caught the deadly human immunodeficiency virus from chimpanzees, perhaps by killing and eating them.

"It says that the chimpanzee group that gave rise to HIV ... this chimp community resides in Cameroon," said Beatrice Hahn of the University of Alabama, who led the study.

"But that doesn't mean the epidemic originated there because it didn't," said Ms Hahn, who has been studying the genetic origin of HIV for years.

"We actually know where the epidemic took off. The epidemic took off in Kinshasa, in Brazzaville."

Kinshasa is in the Democratic Republic of Congo, formerly Zaire, and faces Brazzaville, in Congo, across the Congo River.

Studies have traced HIV to a man who gave a blood sample in 1959 in Kinshasa, then called Leopoldville. Later analysis found the AIDS virus.

In people, HIV leads to AIDS but chimps have a version called simian immune deficiency virus that causes them no harm.

Humans are the only animals naturally susceptible to HIV.

AIDS was only identified 25 years ago. The virus now infects 40 million people around the world and has killed 25 million. Spread via blood, sexual contact and from mother to child during birth or breast-feeding, HIV has no cure and there is no vaccine, although drug cocktails can help control it.

And like so many new infections, AIDS appears to have been passed to humans from animals they slaughtered.

SIV has been found in captive chimps but Ms Hahn wanted to show it could be found in the wild, too.

Her international team got the cooperation of the government in Cameroon and they hired skilled trackers.

"The chimps in that area are hunted. It's certainly impossible to see them. It is hard to track them and find these materials," she said.

But the trackers managed to collect 599 samples of droppings. Ms Hahn's lab found DNA, identified each individual chimp and then found evidence of the virus.

"We went to 10 field sites and we found evidence of infection in five. We were able to identify a total of 16 infected chimps and we were able to get viral sequences from all of them," Ms Hahn said.

Up to 35 per cent of the apes in some communities were infected. Not only that, they could find different varieties, called clades, of the virus.

"We found some of the clades were really, really very closely related to the human virus and others were not," she said.

Chimps separated by a river were infected with different clades, Ms Hahn said.

And a river may have carried the virus into the human population.

"So how do you get from southern Cameroon to the Democratic Republic of Congo?" Ms Hahn said.

"Some human must have done so. There is a river that goes from that southeastern corner of Cameroon down to the Congo river."

Ivory and hardwood traders used the Sangha River in the 1930s, when the original human-to-human transmission is believed to have happened. Ms Hahn's study suggests the virus passed from chimpanzees to people more than once.

"We don't really know how these transmissions occurred," Ms Hahn said.

"We know that you don't get it from petting a chimp, or from a toilet seat, just like you can't get HIV from a toilet seat. It requires exposure to infected blood and infected body fluids. So if you get bitten by an angry chimp while you are hunting it, that could do it."

Ms Hahn's study only applies the HIV group M, which is the main strain of the virus responsible for the AIDS pandemic.

"It is quite possible that still other (chimpanzee SIV) lineages exist that could pose risks for human infection and prove problematic for HIV diagnostics and vaccines," her team wrote.


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To: pissant

It would be simple enough to have spread through an abrasion on the hands or arms of a person who butchered one of the infected chimps.


41 posted on 05/25/2006 1:42:40 PM PDT by Pox
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To: OB1kNOb

OK who persuaded these wild chimps to wear pampers???


42 posted on 05/25/2006 1:42:52 PM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: derllak

My caca is usaully associated with the bull variety. ;o)


43 posted on 05/25/2006 1:43:03 PM PDT by pissant
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To: evets
And like so many new infections, AIDS appears to have been passed to humans from animals they slaughtered.

All the vegetarians are nodding knowingly.

44 posted on 05/25/2006 1:43:24 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow......R.R)
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To: oolatec

Yes, happened at the same time the CIA invented crack.


45 posted on 05/25/2006 1:43:47 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Laura Ingraham Butt Monkey Alert.

Canadian Airline stewards - stop dating the monkeys


46 posted on 05/25/2006 1:43:56 PM PDT by Waverunner
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To: tumblindice

I'd trade in all the poly/sci and law majors in congress for scat researchers. Or in some cases for the scat itself.


47 posted on 05/25/2006 1:44:55 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Well, when we discussed HIV in the health class I taught and someone brought up the "it came from monkeys" issue, and then they pointedly wanted to know HOW! I always told them it was from butchering them. The last thing I really wanted to have a conversation with the kids about was monkey/man love! ;)
susie


48 posted on 05/25/2006 1:45:06 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Froufrou

Shirley, you jest.


49 posted on 05/25/2006 1:45:10 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
Ooops. Saw the word "chimp" and thought this was a story about that Gregory guy from NBC having AIDS in his poop or something.

Sorry. My bad....

50 posted on 05/25/2006 1:45:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: pissant

Oh boy, they're not going to like this at those bath houses in SF. Grandpa was correct all those years, "you go poking around in crap, you're gonna get sick".


51 posted on 05/25/2006 1:45:31 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: pissant
RESEARCHERS who picked up and analysed wild chimp droppings

How would you like to have that job?
52 posted on 05/25/2006 1:45:31 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (DemonRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: pissant

Still waiting for the moonbats to show up and deny that HIV causes AIDS...


53 posted on 05/25/2006 1:45:44 PM PDT by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: Old Professer

People for the Eating of Tasty Animals?


54 posted on 05/25/2006 1:45:53 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Wonder if the conspiracy theories will pay any attention to this whatsoever? They are convinced this virus was developed in US labs. They are also convinced this virus was for the homo culture.


55 posted on 05/25/2006 1:46:08 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I remember Lancelot Links girlfriend. She was pretty hot.


56 posted on 05/25/2006 1:46:44 PM PDT by pissant
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To: shield

Probably they will think that it was given to the chimps by the same nefarious folk....
susie


57 posted on 05/25/2006 1:47:01 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: pissant

Unger, Over and Dunne. ;o)

And don't call me Shirley!


58 posted on 05/25/2006 1:48:24 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: pissant
trackers managed to collect 599 samples of droppings

One shy of 600? I'll bet these are the same bastards would tap all but the last two notes of "shave and a haircut, two bits."

59 posted on 05/25/2006 1:48:42 PM PDT by Sax
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To: RebelBanker

Actually, they'll pop in and say that there are more straight people with it than homosexuals! I heard that a lot in college.


60 posted on 05/25/2006 1:48:56 PM PDT by Mazda3Fan
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