Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 28 May 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 28 May 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, May 28th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Bill Frist, R-Tenn.; Staff Sgt. Alfred Lanier, head honor guard at the Tomb of the Unknowns.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb.; Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. John Warner, R-Va.; Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; singer Tony Orlando.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Barham Salih, Iraqi deputy prime minister; Prince Hassan of Jordan; Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa; "Meet the Press" host Tim Russert.

[Alas Babylon!]

Will Face the Nation will become Face Katie?

How about A$$ Katie? Face the A$$? After all, she's famous for exposing her lower intestines and hind regions on national television.....

[kcvl]

We have now reached the point where anyone who trys to build a working consensus is screamed at by the feverish 100%ers and their Pet talking head media types as "betraying the base, a traitor, a sell out, a RINO or CINO".

You mean like this?

I love the way the Antis

Pot meet Kettle.

[Alas Babylon!]

Above should be "A$$ the Nation"....

[snugs]

Sounds like the program I saw a couple of weeks ago. Basically interviews with Rummy some good shots of him in his official car.

[Morgan in Denver]

Thanks for the rant. Lot here I did not know, or at least realized.

I DO agree with you on Durbin misunderstanding the mood of voters, along with most Democrats. They got people mad at Bush and think the reason is what they have been saying, but they are missing the signs.

A voter mad at President Bush is NOT going to vote Democrat because of a promise to cut and run from Iraq NOR the promise of national Hillary-care. The heck with illegal immigration, the Democrats wanting to give illegal aliens the right to vote is not going to attract many supporters.

[snugs]

Off to watch some TV now - freep me details of the awards.

Thanks
Eleanor

[Morgan in Denver]

Same program. Repeated but I missed part of it originally.

[bray]

He was speaking for the WH, but he also said that this was his position before taking the job. He has always been for securing the borders and against deportation.

Rush became argumentative after he found that there was no penealty other than a misdemeanor for crossing the border. It took away his enforce the law argument, how do you enforce something that has no penalty?

I have always thought Rush was fair and objective on every issue he has seen but with Tony he didn't come across that way. He was more us against them along with saying that you are a Rockefeller Republican if you aren't for deportation is a stretch.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

[samantha]

#503 very good post on what we are up against with the Kings and Perfumed Princes, and Princesses, and what they should be doing instead of satisfying their lust to oversee everything and everybody like it is their duty to do a proctology(spell) exam on everyone but them.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I don't know, I saw it straight off of CBS this morning.

[Phsstpok]

Gardeners whose children will climb the ladder of success all the way up to pool cleaners!

OK, I disagree, but I certainly understand... and appreciate... the cynicism

[samantha]

I had a Favorite aunt that lived on Riverside Drive in Fairfield,Ct for at least 50 years, and she was not Rich and she was not snooty like that. Her Husband worked for the Telephone Company or something like that and she came home with from he Hospital with New Mothers and stayed the first 6 weeks and trained these new Moms in he Care of their Precious babies. I think the Neighborhood may have changed, but I think Kristol is doing what the Dems do, he is accusing Seays and his district of what he really does himself. He strikes me as being a blue blood wannabe, and acts the part. I am certainly no Seays fan,but he knows where his bread is buttered at long last.

[samantha]

I can just see the 12 Million gardeners lined up cutting the hedges at Diane Feinstein's palatial estate one leaf at a time LOL!

[sgtyork]

Man, MNJohnnie relax -- you'll hurt yourself. My post was not about getting even with anybody. It was really a rather dispassionate statement about commodity markets, mechanization and labor economics.

I was just pointing out that the labor market is distorted by a nearby government 'exporting' its labor and that it distorts many aspects of our society. Very dispassionately now. I am a onion farmer and lets say I'm a mediocre one. I hire illegals to keep my costs low so that MNJohnnie has cheap onions. Now the situation changes and I can't get illegals to pick my onions so I have to hire Americans. I try to charge more for my onions, but because my onions now cost MNJohnnie decides to buy onions from a farmer closer Minnesota who uses a new cheaper onion growing method perhaps a mechanized one that has created jobs in the agricultural machinery industry. Or MNJohnnie decides to use peppers instead. But if MNJohnnie really wants my onions, he'll pay more for them.

Are you saying that our economic growth is only due to the presence of 10 percent of the former Mexican population here within our borders? It has nothing to do with tax cuts or productivity increases? Do you have any analysis that supports that?

I've read that we have enough restaurant seating for every man woman and child in the country to sit down and be served at the same time. Is this the way it really needs to be or does cheap 'illegal' labor distort the market? We kept discussing a coming catastrophic housing bubble. When I lived in Texas we discussed the 30 percent discount that we saw in housing due to illegal labor. Did that feed the 'bubble'? Would people have stopped buying homes if the prices went up a few percent?

I am not sure I understand your point about Europe. They have tried to solve their problems with legal/illegal immigration too. It just doesn't work. My understanding is their economies drag because of a bloated entitlement/welfare environment and an inflexible workforce.

[sgtyork]

Mmmm Almond fed pork, the other white meat!

[samantha]

#512, I believe you are correct the Majority leader should be someone more like Mitch McConnell that will squish the traitors in a heartbeat, and put a spine in those Senators that go Wobbly. Trent Lott is tone deaf and was not a good leader, he walked around the Senate with Tom Daschle's dagger up to the hilt in his back and never felt a thing. He thinks like a Cheerleader appeaser,whereas McConnell thinks more like General Patton. I believe there will be a huge wrestling match behind closed doors for that Position, and I would not be surprised if Mitch brings his wife in for a Tag team whuppin on Ole Trent.

[Phsstpok]

Let me be perfectly clear, I'm not saying that everyone, or even the majority of people in that part of CT (or NY) are guilty of the "we need our illegals so we can pay them sub-standard wages" mind set. I am saying that a significant number of the "rich and influential" who live there ARE like that. Further I'm saying that those are the people that Shay's pays attention to.

I drove an ambulance for a living covering the area from the New Jersey side of the Hudson right across Westchester and all the way over to the Connecticut shore and down to NY City. I know the working class types that populate that world, particularly the ones that worked in emergency services. I also did things on that job like delivering oxygen to the Rockefeller estate over in Terrytown (one of the older brothers had emphezyma). I saw plenty of folks on both sides of the economic divide. Without doubt the rich ones who populated that area were "that type." There were also a fair number of yahoos in the other socio-economic ranks, if you know what I mean, but there were more than enough good folks to make up for it. Just like anywhere.

[Txsleuth]

I agree with everything you said (as usual)..even though we know Tony is a good guy, and we are Bush fans, it still makes one cringe to hear the "talking points"..doesn' it?

I just finished watching Frist's performance on Fox...yikes!

[PerConPat]

Alas B, thanks for the personal input. I find it to be the most valuable sort of info in these discussions. Yeah, I've got some root'n tootin' grower/rancher acquaintances who start staring at their expensive boots when this topic of illegals in the workforce comes up. And the ultimate issue, for me, is the leaky border's negative potential for national security.

Morgan: A voter mad at President Bush is NOT going to vote Democrat because of a promise to cut and run from Iraq NOR the promise of national Hillary-care. The heck with illegal immigration, the Democrats wanting to give illegal aliens the right to vote is not going to attract many supporters.

This is probably a fair description of where I will be if the House caves on the immigration bill. I'm not going to throw out the Republican baby with the bath water. But Pub candidates on the other side of this issue from me have already paid the price on my Republican Primary absentee ballot.

[Bahbah]

I just finished watching Frist's performance on Fox...yikes!

Interesting, wasn't it. In order to be focused and steady and clear, you have to actually believe in something. I think that is why Norwood and Sensenbrenner have done so well. They are sticking with the truth and do not engage in smoke and mirrors or spin. The same goes for Senators Sessions, Kyl, Cornyn, Vitter and Grassley, none of whom are being invited to speak on this topic.