Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Scientists say Arctic once was tropical
Associated Press ^ | May 31, 2006 | Seth Borenstein

Posted on 05/31/2006 11:52:30 AM PDT by AntiGuv

WASHINGTON - Scientists have found what might have been the ideal ancient vacation hotspot with a 74-degree Fahrenheit average temperature, alligator ancestors and palm trees. It's smack in the middle of the Arctic.

First-of-its-kind core samples dug up from deep beneath the Arctic Ocean floor show that 55 million years ago an area near the North Pole was practically a subtropical paradise, three new studies show.

The scientists say their findings are a glimpse backward into a much warmer-than-thought polar region heated by run-amok greenhouse gases that came about naturally.

Skeptics of man-made causes of global warming have nothing to rejoice over, however. The researchers say their studies appearing in Thursday's issue of Nature also offer a peak at just how bad conditions can get.

"It probably was (a tropical paradise) but the mosquitoes were probably the size of your head," said Yale geology professor Mark Pagani, a study co-author.

And what a watery, swampy world it must have been.

"Imagine a world where there are dense sequoia trees and cypress trees like in Florida that ring the Arctic Ocean," said Pagani, a member of the multinational Arctic Coring Expedition that conducted the research.

Millions of years ago the Earth experienced an extended period of natural global warming. But around 55 million years ago there was a sudden supercharged spike of carbon dioxide that accelerated the greenhouse effect.

Scientists already knew this "thermal event" happened but are not sure what caused it. Perhaps massive releases of methane from the ocean, the continent-sized burning of trees, lots of volcanic eruptions.

Many experts figured that while the rest of the world got really hot, the polar regions were still comfortably cooler, maybe about 52 degrees Fahrenheit.

But the new research found the polar average was closer to 74 degrees. So instead of Boston-like weather year-round, the Arctic was more like Miami North. Way north.

"It's the first time we've looked at the Arctic, and man, it was a big surprise to us," said study co-author Kathryn Moran, an oceanographer at the University of Rhode Island. "It's a new look to how the Earth can respond to these peaks in carbon dioxide."

It's enough to make Santa Claus break into a sweat.

The 74-degree temperature, based on core samples which act as a climatic time capsule, was probably the year-round average, but because data is so limited it might also be just the summertime average, researchers said.

What's troubling is that this hints that future projections for warming, several degrees over the next century, may be on the low end, said study lead author Appy Sluijs of the Institute of Environmental Biology at Utrecht University in the Netherlands.

Also it shows that what happened 55 million years ago was proof that too much carbon dioxide — more than four times current levels — can cause global warming, said another co-author Henk Brinkhuis at Utrecht University.

Purdue University atmospheric sciences professor Gabriel Bowen, who was not part of the team, praised the work and said it showed that "there are tipping points in our (climate) system that can throw us to these conditions."

And the new research also gave scientists the idea that a simple fern may have helped pull Earth from a hothouse to an icehouse by sucking up massive amounts of carbon dioxide. Unfortunately, this natural solution to global warming was not exactly quick: It took about a million years.

With all that heat and massive freshwater lakes forming in the Arctic, a fern called Azolla started growing and growing. Azolla, still found in warm regions today, grew so deep, so wide that eventually it started sucking up carbon dioxide, Brinkhuis theorized. And that helped put the cool back in the Arctic.

Bowen said he has a hard time accepting that part of the research, but Brinkhuis said the studies show tons upon tons of thick mats of Azolla covered the Arctic and moved south.

"This could actually contribute to push the world to a cooling mode," Brinkhuis said, but only after it got hotter first and then it would take at least 800,000 years to cool back down. It's not something to look forward to, he said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; axis; climatechange; earth; global; globalwarming; haughtonastrobleme; oops; science; suvs; warming
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-102 next last

1 posted on 05/31/2006 11:52:32 AM PDT by AntiGuv
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv


Well the theory of Pangea breaking up would have had the (now) Arctic in a tropical climate somewhere in the past.


2 posted on 05/31/2006 11:53:21 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv

I don't think this is actually new.


3 posted on 05/31/2006 11:53:53 AM PDT by Daralundy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Daralundy

From the article:

"Scientists already knew this "thermal event" happened but are not sure what caused it. Perhaps massive releases of methane from the ocean, the continent-sized burning of trees, lots of volcanic eruptions.


Many experts figured that while the rest of the world got really hot, the polar regions were still comfortably cooler, maybe about 52 degrees Fahrenheit.


But the new research found the polar average was closer to 74 degrees. So instead of Boston-like weather year-round, the Arctic was more like Miami North. Way north."


4 posted on 05/31/2006 11:55:34 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv

Well was man using fossil fuels then? How could the earth have been so warm without man's interference?


5 posted on 05/31/2006 11:55:45 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv

Bush's fault!


6 posted on 05/31/2006 11:56:07 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Freerepublic - The website where "Freepers" is not in the spell checker dictionary...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveLoneRanger

ping


7 posted on 05/31/2006 11:56:11 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv

That's it, I am buying some artic land for my retirement beach front property.


8 posted on 05/31/2006 11:56:15 AM PDT by Always Right
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv
Arctic once was tropical

Back when orcas and orangutans walked side-by-side.

9 posted on 05/31/2006 11:56:24 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Build the fence. Sí, Se Puede!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv

It was the Bushasaurus' fault!.........


10 posted on 05/31/2006 11:56:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv


11 posted on 05/31/2006 11:57:17 AM PDT by TexasCajun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv

Fossils of tropical and subtropical species are found all the time in the antarctic


12 posted on 05/31/2006 11:57:27 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: w1andsodidwe

Those damned cave men in their SUVs!


13 posted on 05/31/2006 11:57:45 AM PDT by travlnmn41
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv
Perhaps massive releases of methane from the ocean...

Admittedly, I have, on occasion, been responsible for "massive releases of methane", but there is absolutely NO evidence that I was the source of this one...

14 posted on 05/31/2006 11:58:27 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Freerepublic - The website where "Freepers" is not in the spell checker dictionary...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv

What kind of SUV's did they drive back in the Jurassic period?


15 posted on 05/31/2006 11:59:47 AM PDT by 6SJ7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv

Continental Drift not withstanding.

55 million years ago, North America was somewhat farther South than today. I believe these climatologists are trying to deliberately mislead people now.


16 posted on 05/31/2006 11:59:50 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv

Pity this is very interesting, but they have framed it like another scare story.


17 posted on 05/31/2006 11:59:51 AM PDT by Daralundy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tzimisce

My thoughts, too. It sounds like they are presuming the continents were then, where they are now.


18 posted on 05/31/2006 12:00:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv
First-of-its-kind core samples dug up from deep beneath the Arctic Ocean floor show that 55 million years ago an area near the North Pole was practically a subtropical paradise, three new studies show.

Paradise? Paradise? Al Gore told me that it wasn't a subtropical paradise. It was a festering hot hellhole.

I was going to ask where the current artic area was that long ago, but it looks like it hasn't moved much since then.

65 million years ago.

19 posted on 05/31/2006 12:00:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AntiGuv


I heard it was also a hot vacation spot for affluent, gay dinosaurs.

But that's just a rumor...
20 posted on 05/31/2006 12:00:42 PM PDT by LIConFem (It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-102 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson