Haditha Doctor Was Arrested, Hates US Too

Sweetness & Light ^ | June 1, 2006 | N/A

[Sam Hill]

You have probably heard by now that the doctor who examined the bodies of the civilians in Haditha after the alleged Marine rampage said they were shot in the chest and head and from close range.

You have probably also heard it reported that the death certificates of the deceased record that all the victims were shot. Here is an article which features the source for the quote and probably the author of the death certificates, from the terrorist supporters at Uruknet:

An image taken from footage shot on November 19, 2005 shows bodies in a morgue after an incident in Haditha.

Witnesses, video document massacre in Haditha US Marines killed Iraqi civilians “in cold blood”

20 May 2006

US Congressman John Murtha said on Wednesday that a Pentagon investigation into the deaths of civilians in Haditha, Iraq, last November will show that US Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha (Democrat, Pennsylvania) was referring to a probe launched into a November 19 incident in which at least 23 civilians—including seven woman and three children—were gunned down by US troops. Haditha is a predominantly Sunni town 200 kilometers northwest of Baghdad in Anbar province...

Dr. Wahid, the director of the local Haditha hospital, said the Marines brought 24 bodies to his hospital around midnight November 19. He told Time the Marines claimed the victims had been killed by shrapnel, "But it was obvious to us that there were no organs slashed by shrapnel. The bullet wounds were very apparent. Most of the victims were shot in the chest and the head—from close range."

This quote has now become an essential element in most of the articles on Haditha.

Being the highest ranking doctor on the scene, Wahid (Walid) is probably the person who filled out the death certificates, or he ordered them filled out.

What we haven't been told by our one party media is some of the background on the good doctor.

Again from Uruknet:

Iraqi Doctors Beaten and Arrested in Haditha Hospital

Sabah Ali, BRussells Tribunal

October 30, 2005

Dr. Walid Al-Obeidi, the director of Haditha General Hospital and Dr. Jamil Abdul Jabbar, the only surgeon in the Haditha area were arrested for a week, very badly beaten and threatened to face the same treatment in the future by the American troops.

Dr.Walid said "they arrested me in my house in front of my family, covered my eyes, and tied my hands to the back on Oct 5 2005 morning, during the last attack on Haditha (360 kilometers west of Baghdad). They occupied the hospital for 8 days and made it their office. The first day they beat me on my eyes, nose, back, hands, legs... My face was covered with blood .When they removed the tie I could not see. They investigated me until the afternoon. I realized later that I was arrested in the hospital store. Then they tied my hands to the front, and left me for two days. I was moved then to the pharmacy department. They accused me of treating terrorists, and asked for their names.

I told them that I treat patients regardless of their identity, according to my oath as a doctor; even if they were national guards (which we actually I did) or American soldiers. And any way, if I do not want to treat the insurgents, I have no choice, because they were armed and masked. I would do anything they tell to do. Few days later, one of the soldiers came in the room, did not say anything, kicked me again on my face and left" ...

Both doctors were threatened if they do not talk, they would receive the same treatment in the future. They were warned of passing any information of the arrest to the media. They were asked who wrote the hostile slogans against the American on the opposite wall of the hospital? What are the names of the insurgents they treated? and what are the bodies’ pictures in the hospital computer?

Dr.Walid said he does not know who wrote on the wall outside the hospital, what the names of the insurgents are, because they were masked. He explained that the dead bodies’ pictures were of unknown people whose bodies were found after the fighting. "We can not keep these bodies forever; we do not have enough cold boxes. So, after two months, we take their pictures and bury them, so that whenever some one from their families comes to ask we show the pictures of the dead bodies".

The UN, the international HR organizations, WHO, Doctors sans frontiers…and all who it may concern are called upon to do some thing to help these, and other Iraqi doctors, and to prevent similar treatment in the future. Dr.Walid and Dr. Jamil believe that they may face the arrest and beating in the future. They demand that the American troops stop occupying the hospital and destroying it every time the attack Haditha. They also believe that the Iraqi authorities are incapable of protecting them.

Is it possible Dr. Walid (Wahid) has an anti-American prejudice?

[piasa]

It's getting to where the only way to distinguish al Zarqawi's speeches from those of the typical Democrat is Zarqawi's more prolific use of the term "Allah Willing." The talking points are identical.

[Cindy]

Yep.

[cricket]

Possibilities I never even considered. . .no core of humanity, whatsoever. . .no overriding humanitarian concerns. . .making their hospitals, death camps. Incredible and sickening. . .

[rockabyebaby]

Thanks so much for the ping!

[veronica]

This is so like what happens in the ME. We who have been reading these stories for years, "massacres" that didn't happen, checkpoint "killings" that aren't, are definitely having flashbacks. The Bush haters have exhausted so many other avenues, I'm not surprised their narrative has taken this turn.

[veronica]

Just go to HonestReporting or any other excellent sites (I forget the name of the main one) that debunk lies told about Israeli soldiers (and Israel in general) and you'll see lots of very similar charges, made by Palestinian doctors. The debunking is the fun part.

[Velveeta]

Stunning.

"BRussels Tribunal"
"Project for the New American Century"

George Soros

[nikos1121]

Savage goes with the wind. I'm usually in aggreement with him 75% of the time, but I've seen him say things supportive of the President one day then lambast him the next.

[Calpernia]

bump!!!!!

[strategofr]

"Savage is an odd duck, he blows hot and cold on the same subject on different days, in the past he has said that Wolf Blitzer is a nice man and very kind, today Savage eviscerated him on the air.

Not that I give a rat's ass but I dont trust Savage, though he is excellent radio and thats why he is pulling down the bucks."

Our views on Savage are very similar. The difference is, it makes me nervous to think that he could have somehow, fallen under the Left's covert control. If that is happened, it will be crystal clear by the date of the November 2008 election.



"On this item though I totally support Savage, he is right in attempting to mount a defense, though I am by no means convinced that a civilian criminal defense attorney can represent the accused in a military justice proceeding."

I am pretty much certain such a thing is not allowed. However, there are many expenses that might be defrayed. In the case at Pantano for example, there was a fatwa out against his family and they had to be protected. Just thinking about it makes me wish we could simply ban Muslims from the country altogether.

[Calpernia]

cup of coffee required for this thread.

Snacks too. You will be staying a while.

[Calpernia]

Seems the trojan horse is becoming more transparent.

Wonder what will happened with the entire mask falls off.

[strategofr]

"Savages attacks on the Rino politicians and this administration, are the result of GW being asleep at the switch. This country is rudderless, without a captain at the helm is the best way to put it."

I know, but his attacks on the Republican Party go too far in my opinion. I believe the Republican Party is the only hope the United States has for survival as a free nation. The RINOs have penetrated it, sure, but fighting them for control of the party is still the best openly have.

[strategofr]

" Well there is a good deal of difference between a conservative and a republican."

Don't you think the Republican Party is the best hope the Conservatives have?

[squarebarb]

Yes. Hold your nose and vote.

[Velveeta]

Freepers are onto them, stay tuned. ;-)

[jeremiah]

You are right about the only strategy that is logical at this time. The problem with logic in this situation is, it has gone out the window. I personally feel betrayed by the party and this administration, much as I would if I found out my wife had a secret life, hated the grandbabies, only planted rose bushes to make the house look better and married me for my money.

Have you ever read some of the posts on DU or yahoo news sites? If not, try doing it on the Haditha threads. Those that instinctively hate the right are certifiably insane, I am not using rhetoric to emphasize a point, Savage is right on that.

I look at Bush, Specter or Hastert and see blindness, not stupidity. They DON'T see this side of the enemy, and I do mean the enemy. The very fact that they do not see them, tells me one of three things.

A. That the right cynically uses rhetoric to sway a group of voters to support them for the power only too, and do not feel the love of country, and fear for her life.

B. That the Republicans believe the same way as the Dims, and are steering us in the same direction, lying all the way.

C. The right is afraid of its own shadow, and will not reflexively defend this country as they are ashamed of their wealth, power or position.

Either way, they do not earn the right to represent us in positions of power.

I read the Haditha thread on yahoo this morning, some on the left actually believe that Bush is a reborn Hitler, the troops have been turned into Nazis, and even quote the fact that 80% of the German people believe that to be true.

This country is on the edge of civil war, I can see it the comments that my sister makes to me about the news, and the news reports.

Those that would demand an open mind on the OJ Simpson, Robert Blake and Michael Jackson cases, truly believe the propaganda of the enemy. I asked my sister about the Haditha incident, she believes the reports. A large portion of those I talk to personally believe the reports.

That comes from one sided news coverage. The only way this kind of thing can be countered is with a controlled press, or a President and his political allies fighting like Carville on every news show and in the papers daily.

In concert they should be blindly supporting the soldiers in the military. Cite examples of the rules of engagement, how many cases in which soldiers in the heat of battle, showed compassion and mercy. Tell the American people of our proud history, how that American troops do NOT act like that. Tell us that the rules of evidence will be followed, and that those accused are innocent until proven guilty, and only IF they are found to have behaved in a criminal manner will you believe that the incident happened. Be a leader Mr. Bush, this country needs you now more than ever.

[shezza]

Re: spelling variations

It's difficult to get the arabic into an "Americanized" translation, and names are usually translated phonetically by whomever is doing the interview. Thus the different variations. My understanding is the bad guys use this to their advantage, as they can point to the watch list and say, "My name is Muhammed Obami, not Mohammed Abami."

No doubt in my mind the "good doctor" at the Haditha hospital is an al Qaida sympathizer, and the one who listed the information on the death certificates. He had had many run-ins with the Americans before, and obviously has no love for them.

Enormous grain of salt in using this very same doctor's death certificates as proof positive that the Marines are cold-blooded assassins.

[jeremiah]

I am pretty sure any lawyer can defend someone in a court martial, it is not done much because the rules are different enough that it becomes a liability.

[Velveeta]

No doubt in my mind the "good doctor" at the Haditha hospital is an al Qaida sympathizer, and the one who listed the information on the death certificates.

Sure looks that way.