Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Sellers of fake immigration documents aren't worried about call for tamperproof IDs
Associated Press ^ | June 2nd, 2006 | PETER PRENGAMAN

Posted on 06/03/2006 8:39:20 PM PDT by LostInTheWoods

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Luis Hernandez just laughs as he sells fake driver's licenses and Social Security cards to illegal immigrants near a park known for shady deals.

The joke, to him and others in his line of work, is the government's promise to put people like him out of business with a tamperproof national ID card.

"One way or another, we'll always find a way," said Hernandez, 35, a sidewalk operator who is part of a complex counterfeiting network around MacArthur Park, where authentic-looking IDs are available for as little as $150.

Some of those coming to MacArthur Park are teenagers who want a fake ID so they can go to bars and drink. Others are ex-convicts whose criminal records make working under their real names difficult. But most are illegal immigrants who need work documents.

As Congress struggles to reform laws that affect the nation's estimated 11 million illegal immigrants, one central question is how to crack down on fake documents and punish the employers who accept them.

President Bush has suggested foreign workers carry a single ID that includes a fingerprint. The House and Senate, meanwhile, have passed bills that would force employers to verify job seekers' Social Security numbers with a phone call and immigration status through an electronic database.

Many employers, eager for cheap labor, have a "don't ask, don't tell" attitude toward their employees' immigration status and do not check their papers.

In one indication of the size of the problem, federal authorities in April arrested nearly 1,200 illegal immigrants and a few managers working at IFCO Systems plants from Southern California to New York. More than half of the 5,800 employees at the pallet and crate manufacturing company in 2005 had invalid or mismatched Social Security numbers, authorities said.

Immigration officials said the fake document business has become increasingly difficult to stop.

In the past, authorities could often break up a network by raiding a central "document mill" where Social Security cards, passports and licenses might be drying on a large printing press, said Kevin Jeffery, deputy agent in charge of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Los Angeles.

Now documents are made with illegal software on laptop computers. That mobility makes them harder to bust.

"With a computer and a printer, you are in business," Jeffery said.

Authorities can also be stymied by complex delivery networks.

Around MacArthur Park, sellers who openly offer fake IDs do not actually carry any of the documents. Instead, they negotiate prices as high as $300 for a package containing a driver's license, Social Security card and green card. Next, they send the buyer to a less crowded area a few blocks away, where a picture is taken and the customer pays up.

The picture and cash change hands a few times before arriving at an apartment where a laptop, printer and laminating machine spit out the documents. Within an hour, a runner _ perhaps a young man dressed as a student, or an elderly woman _ delivers the documents near the site of the original deal.

Hernandez, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, said it is not easy work. The biggest threats are disgruntled customers, undercover agents who record deals with cameras the size of a button, and gang members demanding protection money.

When Hernandez senses a customer might be a police officer, he calls out "7/11," and his underlings disappear. If a seller is arrested, others collect money to bail him out of jail.

"We are not trying to do anything bad," said Sergio Guitierrez, 35, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who sells IDs. "Immigrants just need to work."

"This is the government's fault," said Maria Zuniga, 55, an illegal immigrant from Honduras who sells and transports documents. "They won't even give us a number to work or a driver's license."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: alien; aliens; illegalalien; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrant; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; macartherpark; tenpeat
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

1 posted on 06/03/2006 8:39:22 PM PDT by LostInTheWoods
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods

DMV workers here in Maryland were caught selling the real deal last year.


2 posted on 06/03/2006 8:42:27 PM PDT by kinoxi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
"This is the government's fault," said Maria Zuniga, 55, an illegal immigrant from Honduras

Amazing powers of rationalization.

3 posted on 06/03/2006 8:43:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
"This is the government's fault," said Maria Zuniga, 55, an illegal immigrant from Honduras who sells and transports documents. "They won't even give us a number to work or a driver's license."

Tired of demands and accusations from you filthy criminals, dear. Time to go back to your rat hole country.

4 posted on 06/03/2006 8:43:48 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
Drove through MacArthur Park about a year ago and thought I was in TJ. Nothing but Latinos.
5 posted on 06/03/2006 8:47:05 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
and people wonder how all the 10's of thousands of illegal
Hispanic border jumpers are able to board planes and come over to invade and settle in Hawaii ? This is how...
If they cannot speak English , apply maximum scrutiny to the ID they are trying to present . It is probably a Federal felony to present false ID to board a plane in the US . Yet they are doing every day . By the 100's! It's got to stop.
6 posted on 06/03/2006 8:47:58 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
"They won't even give us a number to work or a driver's license."

My girlfriend is from Norway, going to school at Florida Gulf Coast University on a student visa. She's not allowed to work. And let me tell you, it's not easy to support two people in SW Florida on $40K a year. We're standing in line waiting for a green card just like everyone else. Every time I hear an illegal complain about not getting to work it makes my blood boil.

They think they have it hard??? What about us native Americans? I came to Florida when I left the Navy. I had no job, a beat up car, no cash, and 3 months of pre-paid rent in a single bedroom apartment I shared with two other guys. If I failed I was finished. But here I am two years later with a job, a new car, and going to school full time as well as working 40hrs a week. That’s the American spirit: strength through adversity. If they spent half the effort reforming their country as they do in crossing our borders and flouting our laws, they’d find there would be no more reason to leave!
7 posted on 06/03/2006 8:54:55 PM PDT by LostInTheWoods (Oceania, hail to thee!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
There are other biometric measures, like DNA and fingerprints, but what makes the iris scan attractive is that it can't be commingled with the existing law enforcement databases. Criminals leave their DNA and fingerprints behind at crime scenes, but iris images are never unintentionally left behind by anybody.
INFO:

Collage of iris images:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/jgd1000/iriscollage.jpg

------------------------------------------------------

From:
How Iris RecognitionWorks, by John Daugman, PhD, OBE
University of Cambridge, The Computer Laboratory, Cambridge
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/jgd1000/irisrecog.pdf
excerpt:
The iris begins to form in the third month of gestation (Kronfeld 1962) and the structures creating its pattern are largely complete by the eighth month, although pigment accretion can continue into the first postnatal years. Its complex pattern can contain many distinctive features such as arching ligaments, furrows, ridges, crypts, rings, corona, freckles, and a zigzag collarette, some of which may be seen in Figure 1. Iris colour is determined mainly by the density of melanin pigment (Chedekel 1994) in its anterior layer and stroma, with blue irises resulting from an absence of pigment: long wavelength light penetrates and is absorbed by the pigment epithelium, while shorter wavelengths are reflected and scattered by the stroma. The striated trabecular meshwork of elastic pectinate ligament creates the predominant texture under visible light, whereas in the near infrared (NIR) wavelengths used for unobtrusive imaging at distances of up to 1 meter, deeper and somewhat more slowly modulated stromal features dominate the iris pattern. In NIR wavelengths, even darkly pigmented irises reveal rich and complex features.
------------------------------------------------------
From:
Biometric Technologies - Iris Recognition
http://www.thepointgroup.org/biometriciris.shtml
excerpts:
    How Does Iris Recognition Work?

Iris recognition is based on the most mathematically unique biometric - the iris of the 
eye. The human iris is absolutely unique, even between twins or an individual's right and 
left eyes. The iris itself is stable throughout a person's life (approximately from the 
age of one). The physical characteristics of the iris do not change with age. None of the 
other biometric solutions, including fingerprint, facial recognition, retina scan, and 
voice recognition provide the level of accuracy, speed, or cost-effectiveness found with 
iris recognition technology.

    Iris recognition biometric technology positively determines the identity of an 
individual by capturing a high resolution digital photograph of the individual's iris. 
The unique features contained in the iris are compared against a database and the 
identity of the individual determined.

    The technology is non-intrusive - the individual does not need to touch anything to 
use the system. Automatic voice prompting, auto focus, plus enrollment and recognition 
speed make the system easy to use. An individual is detected automatically upon 
approaching the imager (a digital camera). A glance at the aperture mirror from 3-10" 
distance allows the camera to capture an iris image, which is digitally processed into a 
512 byte IrisCode® record. No PINs, passwords, or cards are required.

    Iris recognition technology is strictly "opt in." Subjects agree to enroll and 
participate, reducing privacy concerns. The user must consciously elect to participate in 
iris recognition for authentication by presenting their eye to the camera. They also must 
be within a designated capture zone, which is approximately 3-10 inches away from the 
camera. The technology cannot work without the explicit cooperation of the end-user. All 
a person needs to do is look into a camera for a few seconds. A video image is taken of 
their iris which is non-invasive and inherently safe. Unlike Retina Scan, there are no 
lasers, strong lights or any kind of harmful beams.

    Iris recognition was proven to have the highest biometric accuracy, with no false 
matches in over two million cross-comparisons, according to Biometric Product Testing 
Final Report (19 March 2001, Center for Mathematics and Scientific Computing, National 
Physics Laboratory, U.K.)

    [...]

    Iris Recognition Technology Overview

    * Positive Identification
    * Most Accurate Biometric
    * Ease of Use
    * Rapid Throughput
    * Completely Non-Invasive
    * Highly Scalable

    Ease of Use

    * No PINs, passwords or cards needed for identification
    * Database is designed for easy maintenance
    * Hands-free
    * Requires minimal cooperation

    Most Accurate

    * Statistical probability of iris achieving a false accept is 1 in 1.2 million
    * Examines more than 240 of the 400 measurable variables (degrees of freedom) in the human eye
    * Uniqueness = Accuracy
    - The probability of two individuals having the same iris pattern is 1 in 10 to the 72nd
    - Twins have same DNA but different iris patterns
    - Right and left eye are totally different
    - Stable for life after age 1

8 posted on 06/03/2006 9:13:01 PM PDT by RBMN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642397/posts

3rd time in 2 days this article has been posted.
9 posted on 06/03/2006 9:15:56 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Beagle8U

Sorry, I did a title search and got nothing. My fault.


10 posted on 06/03/2006 9:22:13 PM PDT by LostInTheWoods (Oceania, hail to thee!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
I'm not bichin, just pointing it out.

Easy way to check to see if something has been posted.

copy and paste the article title into the FR search bar, and search by that to see if it comes up.
11 posted on 06/03/2006 9:28:51 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Beagle8U

Thanks for the tip! 8¬)


12 posted on 06/03/2006 9:32:32 PM PDT by LostInTheWoods (Oceania, hail to thee!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods

Snipers...


13 posted on 06/03/2006 9:39:13 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods


I wouldn't be worried either: most laws Congress passes aren't taken seriously...even by members of Congress...


14 posted on 06/03/2006 9:46:40 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ncountylee

My sentiments exactly. Are these people retarded?


15 posted on 06/03/2006 10:07:37 PM PDT by dennisw (We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshippers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: RBMN

Digitized thumb prints should do the trick. It's child's play transmit the info that makes up a thumb print.


16 posted on 06/03/2006 10:11:59 PM PDT by dennisw (We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshippers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
Many employers, eager for cheap labor, have a "don't ask, don't tell" attitude toward their employees' immigration status and do not check their papers.

Cheaters hiring cheaters.

These illegal employers envy the corrupt mexican upper class and its cheap low skilled workers. These illegal employers say to themselves, "Gotta get me some of that!"

Don't get me wrong, I am all for business, Capitalism, free trade, and making a profit. But play by the damn rules already.

17 posted on 06/03/2006 10:22:40 PM PDT by Vision Thing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods
Same article, different headline.

And another one.

18 posted on 06/03/2006 10:56:36 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kinoxi
DMV workers here in Maryland were caught selling the real deal last year.

Inside jobbers should get hammered.

19 posted on 06/03/2006 11:22:26 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: LostInTheWoods

And some think the illegals and legals WILL VOTE SOON.. Probably closer to the truth is they HAVE BEEN VOTING.. and will continue to even more.. Any that thinks democrat operatives are not on this like white on a flour tortilla are fooling themselves..


20 posted on 06/03/2006 11:38:41 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson