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Are you able to obey this law?(ADA)
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| 06/07/2006
| John Stossel
Posted on 06/07/2006 5:24:38 AM PDT by devane617
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To: AppyPappy
The true meaning of "Disabled" was lost long ago. Now anyone that is lazy or fat will use a scooter and park in HP and otherwise take advantage of a law that was no intended for them. The definition of "Disabled" needs to be further defined in an effort to eliminate the problems.
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posted on
06/07/2006 5:59:44 AM PDT
by
devane617
(It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
To: devane617
ADA needs to be repealed.
I recently renovated a commercial building, you wouldn't believe how many nit picky regulations I had to abide by in order to meet ADA requirements. There is tons of things I left out like water fountains and public phones, because if I put one in... I also have to have an ADA one too... since I couldn't afford two of everything... I didn't put in any, that's nuts!
To: devane617
Shoot, I see a lot of people using grandma's HP hangtag to get a close spot to the mall.
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posted on
06/07/2006 6:06:34 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: freedumb2003
There is a conservative talk show hosts that started here in Pittsburgh (now on XM satellite radio 1065) named Jim Quinn, and one of his 'laws' is:
"Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent"
fits.
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posted on
06/07/2006 6:07:43 AM PDT
by
socialismisinsidious
( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
To: devane617
Every employer is in a specific situation, and lawyers are ready to pounce if they don't do everything according to the law. And the laws are now so complex, it's impossible to obey all of them.Which is one reason to NEVER vote for a lawyer for any legislative office! They only "serve" to butter their profession's bread!
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posted on
06/07/2006 6:15:06 AM PDT
by
JimRed
("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
It would have to be tattooed on the inside of their lower colon in fluorescent ink for our Lawmakers to see it.
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posted on
06/07/2006 6:15:43 AM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(Dear US Senators, Reps. and Mr. President: Why are y'all abetting the destruction of our culture?)
To: socialismisinsidious
Yes, but the law was pushed and signed by Bush, Sr., a nominal "non-socialist."
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posted on
06/07/2006 6:21:30 AM PDT
by
jammer
To: jammer
Good point.
The way this country has been heading (what? the past 40 years or so...since the Great Society program? with a little break under Reagan) Quinn should change his first law to:
"Government always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent"
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posted on
06/07/2006 6:26:24 AM PDT
by
socialismisinsidious
( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
To: socialismisinsidious
Your statement should be one of the history points that each immigrant should have to memorize when applying for citizenship, if we have such requirements any more.
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posted on
06/07/2006 6:28:43 AM PDT
by
jammer
To: F.J. Mitchell
Huh? For that to work they'd have to have their head up their....Oh, wait, D'oh! (LOL)
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posted on
06/07/2006 6:33:29 AM PDT
by
Hegemony Cricket
(Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
To: IrishMike
"Not only did it fail to take adequate corrective action after the drivers complained; the company is also reported to have "failed to provide managers with anti-discrimination training." Without such training, you see, human beings with an IQ of 11 or above would have no idea that it's inappropriate to call someone a "camel jockey" in the workplace."
I have to attend mandatory sensitivity training every year. I generally sit all the way in the back to be out of the way and was sitting with several male employees of foriegn birth. We were being briefed by the company's lesbian lawyer who was showing a videotape about how to be sensitive to homosexuals. These guys (Indians, Cambodians, Vietnamese, etc..) were laughing their butts off and making fun of her out loud. NOTHING was said to them!
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posted on
06/07/2006 6:47:06 AM PDT
by
dljordan
To: devane617
The tough part about this law is that if you fit into the definition of the law, and you applied for a position but did not get it, you can file a complaint either with EEOC or in district court and you have already established a prima facie case. The employer must now prove he did not discriminate against you and had only job related reasons for rejecting you. Makes it difficult to defend and easy to file.
To: dljordan
I work for a small firm HVA/C engineering, provide services to 20 facilities throughout the States, two of which are government buildings.
We have to write up EEOC plans for the two facilities, based on area specific 'conditions' and submit for review to the SBA and GSA. The 'compliance' paperwork on two projects for the government, exceeds the eighteen private commercial properties (at least threefold).
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posted on
06/07/2006 7:02:48 AM PDT
by
IrishMike
(Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
To: Hegemony Cricket
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posted on
06/07/2006 7:05:31 AM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(Dear US Senators, Reps. and Mr. President: Why are y'all abetting the destruction of our culture?)
To: socialismisinsidious
I am going to add that to my TagLine list...
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posted on
06/07/2006 7:19:22 AM PDT
by
freedumb2003
(Bipartisanship is when the Stupid Party and the Evil Party agree to do something that is both stupid)
To: devane617
"He said the ADA is a wonderful law, and had the nerve to say it isn't complicated."
This statement shows just how broken the EEO process has become. I work in this field and the disability discrimination area is so complex that it is beyond belief.
The landmark Supreme Court case of Toyota Motor Mfg., Ky. v. Williams, 534 U.S. 184, articulated a high standard for establishing a disability pursuant to The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA), 42 U.S.C. § 12112(b)(5)(A). The Court was guided by the ADA's disability definition: "Substantially" in the phrase "substantially limits" suggests "considerable" or "to a large degree," and thus clearly precludes impairments that interfere in only a minor way with performing manual tasks. Further, because "major" means important, "major life activities" refers to those activities that are of central importance to daily life.
The Toyota case has kept the ADA from becoming a complete disaster. However, determining if an employee is disabled under the ADA is frequently a lengthy and consuming process. It is probably a great idea to have protections for disabled persons, but the EEO system now provides a huge avenue for individuals to intimidate and manipulate management. The drug abuse problem is just one of the areas that deny reason.
To: GeorgefromGeorgia
How would you like to be laid off from a good paying job, but the local crackhead stays on because they are 'protected' by ADA and in rehab?
What would RAH say?
Blech. squared.
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posted on
06/07/2006 9:10:29 AM PDT
by
ASOC
(Choose between the lesser of two evils and in the end, you still have, well, evil.)
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