1 posted on
06/09/2006 6:56:36 PM PDT by
Ellesu
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To: Ellesu
lawfully in possession of it The Constitution should work in this instance.
2 posted on
06/09/2006 6:58:54 PM PDT by
Michael Goldsberry
(Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
To: Ellesu
How am I supposed to prove that the gun is mine? Should I carry a receipt with me at all times? What if I borrowed it from a friend?
3 posted on
06/09/2006 6:59:09 PM PDT by
edik
To: Ellesu
So the police coniscated guns from abandoned homes because they could have been used as weapons.
Did they take th kitchen knives too?
This is beyond ridiculous--this is people's private property. The follow up questions--what have you done to get this private property back into the hands of their owners.
If nothing, that is illegal confiscation.
4 posted on
06/09/2006 7:05:04 PM PDT by
exit82
(If Democrats can lead, then I'm Chuck Norris.)
To: Ellesu
Prove it is theirs? As in a syllogism? Is a receipt proof, or does he mean government seal of approval? Because the right...
5 posted on
06/09/2006 7:07:09 PM PDT by
JasonC
To: Ellesu
---Riley said that in another emergency situation, officers would check people on the street in possession of guns and will not take the weapons unless they have a criminal record, are mentally ill, or unable to prove they own the weapon.---
Total BS! How are you supposed to prove ownership unless it's a pistol you have a carry permit for?
6 posted on
06/09/2006 7:07:10 PM PDT by
claudiustg
(¡En español, por favor!)
To: Ellesu
Hell, that's nothing, in New London, CT they take peoples homes whether or not you can prove its yours.
7 posted on
06/09/2006 7:11:45 PM PDT by
jwalsh07
To: Ellesu
I wonder what action Riley recommends if law-abiding citizens find that their lives and the lives of their families depend upon their firearms, but somehow they are without the proof demanded by Riley. Should a law-abiding person allow himself to be illegally disarmed, putting his family at risk, or should he take some other action?
One might also ask what proof of ownership of firearms is carried by New Orleans law enforcement. I don't recall seeing any firearm serial numbers on a policeman's badge. Shall it be lawful for citizens to disarm policemen who do not provide proof of ownership?
Will the police be disarming each other due to lack of proof of ownership?
When I was in the Army, I carried a military ID, but no proof of firearms ownership. Will Riley be disarming any National Guard troops he encounters? If the President visits the disaster area, what proof of ownership will the Secret Service be required to carry?
9 posted on
06/09/2006 7:26:54 PM PDT by
William Tell
(RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
To: Ellesu
Well, well. This is clever.
Policeman: Let me see your permit and reciept.
Gun Owner: Okay, here you go.
Policeman: Looks, good, everything checks out. We just need to check our records to see if your a felon or crazy.
Gun Owner: No problem.
Policeman: Well, there is a problem. You see, we're in the midst of a natural disaster, and we can't even get ahold of dispatch much less run names against the database.
Gun Owner: That could be a problem.
Policeman: Tell you what, you just give me your gun and you can be on your way. Otherwise you can wait here for a few days while whoever gets the computers working. If they're even still in town.
Gun Owner: Tough choice. Give up my gun or starve to death right here?
To: Ellesu
They have a right to carry the guns, but they have to prove it is theirs, said Riley. Typical nanny state BS. Again telling law abiding citizens they must prove a negative.
My guns are 25 years old. I don't have the original receipts. So, am I supposed to "prove" that I don't have a criminal record, or didn't steal my guns? All of this in a lawless, disaster situation where I must protect my family and property? IOW, the state doesn't have to prove I am doing anything wrong, I have to prove I am not?
And I should believe libs when they say I don't need guns to protect myself. From whom, criminals or the government?
15 posted on
06/09/2006 8:18:53 PM PDT by
ChildOfThe60s
(If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
To: Ellesu
Riley also disputed accounts that police had gone into homes and disarmed residents.
it's on video...is this guy a moron ?
To: Ellesu
Tyranical, power hungry idiot. He's asking to get his lackeys shot.
18 posted on
06/09/2006 8:28:54 PM PDT by
Ghengis
(Alexander was a wuss!)
To: Ellesu
Damn.
This Riley dude has backpedaled some from what he was saying in yesterday's reports, but oddly enough, today's statements seem even more repugnant, and at the same time, bizarre.
When LA passed it's law against confiscation during disasters did they include language that made violation a crime?
A lot of states have laws that prohibit their own governments from doing things like that, but it seems too few of them carry any sort of penalty. The state confiscating legally possessed goods from a citizen is, in fact, armed robbery and ought to be treated as such in law.
24 posted on
06/09/2006 9:08:19 PM PDT by
Clinging Bitterly
(Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
To: Ellesu
Legally - Right, you always remember where the receipt for the pistol you bought 10 years ago is in a flood or hurricane. "Honey, you hold the baby and her bottle while I look in the roll-top desk for my gun's receipt."
26 posted on
06/09/2006 9:17:53 PM PDT by
RicocheT
To: Ellesu
This is B.S. I had a video sent to me of two burly fat NOLA policeman tackling and taking away a little old ladies pistol in her home. With her claiming she was o.k. and did not want to be evacuated.
27 posted on
06/09/2006 9:51:05 PM PDT by
rock58seg
(A minority of Republican RINO's are making a majority of Republicans look like fools.)
To: Ellesu
His comments are madness self delusional, pathetic, sad.
Wm
31 posted on
06/09/2006 10:20:16 PM PDT by
WLR
("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
To: Ellesu
Let's hope that NO stays out of harm's way until this buffoon is out of power. He's just begging for blood to be spilled.
33 posted on
06/09/2006 10:23:33 PM PDT by
Redcloak
(Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
To: Ellesu
Disputed the fact that the cops disarmed citizens?? Didn't this dope see the video of the jackbooted thug body-slamming the old lady? What a bunch of lying police crap.
To: Ellesu
Riley also disputed accounts that police had gone into homes and disarmed residents.
Riley said that police did go into homes that had been abandoned or damaged after Katrina and,
Look! That shutter is broken, we're going in!
To: Ellesu
I bought most of my guns in the 60's and 70's when the Second Amendment was respected and gun control was not even considered in Amerika (yes, that's Amerika).
Who the hell thought back then that you would have to keep your receipts, a certification of a gift, an inheritance of the gun or any other paperwork so that you could prove ownership in the "brave new world" of today!
In a true emergency I will shoot to kill anyone who tries to take the only means I have to protect my life, family and property, and then I will shoot the ones who come for me for protecting myself after that.
Never, never in my earlier years in the America I used to know, would I have ever thought that that was a possibility.
37 posted on
06/10/2006 5:27:20 AM PDT by
DH
(The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
To: Ellesu
"I have the proof of ownership right here in the chamber, want it?"
39 posted on
06/10/2006 6:09:18 AM PDT by
muir_redwoods
(Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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