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The Camp Pendleton 8 ^ | 14 June 06 | Malkin

Posted on 06/15/2006 6:10:49 AM PDT by gunnyg

THE CAMP PENDLETON 8 By Michelle Malkin · June 14, 2006 10:40 AM

***update: We've captured and posted the video of Hillary getting booed as she asks progressives to support the troops. Guess they won't be helping out the Camp Pendleton 8...LGF asks: What's wrong with Marine brass?***

My column this week calls attention to the Camp Pendleton 8--7 Marines and Navy corpsman being held in shackles with no charges against them as higher-ups investigate an alleged murder of an Iraqi man earlier this spring in Hamandiya. Excerpt:

Did you know there are seven young Marines and a Navy corpsman sitting in a military brig right now in leg and wrist shackles -- despite the fact that they've not been charged with any crime?

The men are in solitary confinement, locked in 8'x8' cells at San Diego's Camp Pendleton, as investigators probe an April 26 incident involving the 3rd Battalion, 5th Regiment, 1st Marine Division. They are behind bars 23 hours a day; family members can only see them through inch-thick Plexiglas. Military blabbermouths have told the press that the service members are suspected of kidnapping and shooting a man in the Iraqi town of Hamdaniya. The Iraqi man's family reportedly came forward seeking payment for his death as media hysteria set in over the separate alleged atrocity in Haditha.

These men -- our men -- may be innocent. They may be guilty. Charges may or may not be filed this week. But this much is certain: The media leaks and the Murtha-fication of the case are already taking a heavy toll on the troops and their families. The headlines have already convicted them: "Iraqi's Slaying Planned By Marines, Official Says." "Marines Planned to Kill Iraqi Civilian, Then Planted Evidence."


I have heard from several family members and friends with connections to the Camp Pendleton 8.

Erica is the wife of one of the men. She has set up a website to tell her husband's story here and she is asking for help:

I'm writing this on behalf of my husband, who is a corporal in the U.S. Marine Corps. He has been deployed to Iraq three times, serving in a rifle battalion as an infantry man, and I have been with him every step of the way.

A month after leaving for his second deployment, our first and only child (our daughter) was born. The first time my husband saw our child she was 6 months old. Also during his second deployment, he witnessed his best friend being shot and killed by enemy gunfire. My husband was awarded the Purple Heart for combat wounds.

On this last combat tour, two months before he was to return home, my husband was sent back to the states and into pretrial confinement at the military base brig at Camp Pendleton, California. At the brig, he is under maximum security. It's unfair considering the fact that he was in Iraq (for the third time) risking his life, fighting for our country and he has not been convicted of anything.

My husband is one of the seven Marines and one sailor that are being held without being charged over accusations about the incident in Hamandiya that has been in the news for the past few weeks. Whenever he leaves his cell, he is shackled, handcuffed, and escorted by two guards. He is kept in solitary confinement and let out for exercise only 1 hour a day. When I visit him, he is presented to me behind a thick glass barrier and still shackled. We can’t even touch each other.

My husband's term in the Marine Corps is up this November. Four long years.....and then something like this happens. He was planning on re-enlisting this November to become a recruiter or work at the recruiting range. He loves his job and sees himself in the Corps for at least 4 more years. But his dreams just may have went down the drain.

My husband and I have a lot of support coming in and we thank each and every one who has shown this support. It is especially appreciated at this time when we need to raise public awareness and give him a proper legal defense. With him imprisoned and without the support of the Marine Corps, I was left to fight this fight alone. On an enlisted man's salary, I had quite a fight ahead of me.

Fortunately, one of the best lawyers that a Marine can ask for has just agreed to join me in this fight. My husband is being represented by Mr. Victor Kelley, a retired Marine officer with a history of successfully defending Marines.

As I write this, Mr. Kelley is on his way to meet with my husband. Since the Marine Corps has told us nothing, we don't know what Mr. Kelley will face when he gets there. But, we do know that he is the person to find out. Hopefully, he will able to move this process forward and gain my husband’s freedom.

Private First Class John J. Jodka is also being held. His father has a website here:

This website is dedicated to my 20 year old hero, my son John.

John is a consummate Marine serving his country to the best of his ability. John heard the call to citizen service and was assigned to combat in Iraq with the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division (REIN), "Darkhorse 3/5", one of the most storied infantry battalions in the history of the US Marine Corps.

John has always wanted to serve his country at the "tip of the spear" as a Marine rifleman. My proudest moment in life was watching as John's Senior Drill Instructor handed the Eagle, Globe and Anchor to him at Boot Camp graduation. John needs your help. He is currently held by the Marine Corps in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT along with 7 others of his squad under investigation for the Hamdaniya incident that occurred in combat on April 26, 2006 in Iraq. John has not yet been charged, yet is held in the most severe confinement possible. By comparison, the Marines being investigated for the Haditha incident are free on the base.

My son spends 24 hours a day locked in a small 8x8 cell with only a small bed, a small stainless steel toilet, and a shelf for some of his personal belongings. He is not allowed to write letters because pens or pencils are considered "weapons." He is allowed to walk out of his cell only when he showers or visits with his family and attorneys. But when he does, he is shackled hand and foot. To visit him means to sit on the other side of a glass wall without being able to touch him. Remember, John has not even been charged. John is innocent and he needs your help.

His family has retained civilian counsel Joseph Casas and Jane Siegel to fight for his rights due him under the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the Constitution of the United States, but the costs will be staggering. He faces serious charges and a long road ahead of him. John and his family have contributed all their funds to the defense. My son, my hero, is in a VERY bad spot but I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt of his innocence. I am overwhelmed by the strength of my son's moral convictions and belief in the truth. When we visit him at the Brig, we go in sad thinking about his condition, but we come out uplifted from listening to his motivation and unwavering faith. Sadly, the US Marine Corps leadership has turned its back on my son and his squadmates in a Quixote-like search for political correctness; but even though he is abandoned by his leaders and held in conditions worse that Zacarias Moussaoui's prison, my son's positive attitude, humor and fervent belief in what is right buoys my spirits and uplifts those around him.

Christina at Blue Girl in a Red State is a close family friend of the Jodkas and a proud liberal outraged by her friends' plight. She is trying to get congressional representatives to pay attention. She wrote to tell me she is challenging liberal blogs to contribute to Jodka's defense fund. I wish her the best of luck. She is continuing to cover the story.

The wife of the Navy corpsman in custody has a website here:

My husband is a 20 year-old Hospital Corpsman Third Class. He graduated from high school in June 2003. He began his first combat deployment to Iraq in July 2004. During his first deployment, 19 Marines from his Battalion gave their lives as the ultimate sacrifice for our country. Nine Marines from his Company were killed, five of them in one firefight. Two Marines died in my husband's arms. My husband was awarded the Purple Heart during his first deployment. He returned home in April 2005, in time for the birth of our daughter. In January 2006, after spending a very short time at home, my husband left again for his second combat tour in Iraq.

I proudly stood by my husband each time he deployed because I am also an active duty Hospital Corpsman Third Class proudly serving our country. Even though I wear a military uniform, it was still difficult to watch my husband deploy to combat because I didn't know if I would ever see him again. I know that our daughter is too young to appreciate what has happened to her father, but I know in my heart she misses him.

My husband is represented by Attorney Jeremiah J. Sullivan, III. Mr. Sullivan informed our family that his office has received numerous telephone calls from concerned citizens, companies, and organizations from across the country. Many of them have asked how they can donate funds to defray my husband's legal fees. As a result of this overwhelming generosity, I have set up this fund for the benefit of my husband. Any contributions received will be utilized solely for his defense. Contributions may be mailed to: Patriot Defense Fund, P.O. Box 80862, San Diego, CA 92138-0862. All checks should be made payable to the "Patriot Defense Fund."

I have had the opportunity to visit my husband at the Brig in Camp Pendleton. During the visits, my husband's arms and legs remained shackled at all times. I can only speak to my husband through the glass with a guard posted in the room. When I told my husband about the support he has received from across the country, it immediately lifted his spirits. Words cannot express my husband's gratitude for the many kind words and support.

I will update this website as often as I can with more current information as it becomes available. It has been extremely difficult between working, visiting my husband, and caring for our daughter. I will do my best. You may send e-mails to my husband at I will deliver your e-mails to him. Your words of support will be greatly appreciated.


The national media ignored a protest by supporters outside Camp Pendleton over the weekend. Not a peep heard yet from the American Civil Liberties Union. The website of the self-anointed crusaders for individual rights contains hundreds of articles on the rights of al Qaeda suspects and an indignant press release on the suicides of Guantanamo Bay detainees. But no mention of the Camp Pendleton Eight. For their part, human rights groups were too busy shedding tears for the Gitmo terrorist suicide squad and lionizing them as "heroes" in the words of William Goodman of the Center for Constitutional Rights. Editorial cartoonists have been preoccupied desecrating the Marine Corps logo and tarring troops as baby-killers.

A clarion voice stepped into the fray this week to push back against the global rush to judgment against our troops. Ilario Pantano, a Desert Storm vet-turned-Wall Street banker and new media entrepreneur-turned-commissioned Marine officer from Hell's Kitchen, launched his gripping book "Warlord: No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy" this week, which recounts his harrowing ordeal as a Marine smeared and cleared. Last spring, he faced the death penalty for defending himself and his men in the heat of battle and killing two Iraqi insurgents. He was accused then, as Marines are being accused now, of wantonly executing Iraqis to send a message. His family and friends' defense of Pantano was met, as those of Marines are being met now, with incredulity or apathy.

There were no pleas to withhold judgment against Pantano from the New York Times then. No Oprah sit-downs now with the wives and children of accused troops.

As an agitated, condescending Ann Curry of NBC's "Today Show" tried to paint Pantano Monday as a callous thug, he replied with quiet dignity: "I don't think it's helpful to national security to have this kind of self-flagellation before the facts are actually disclosed."

Innocent until proven guilty? Justice for all? Benefit of the doubt? These are apparently foreign concepts when it comes to Americans in uniform being held on American soil. Perhaps if our troops proclaimed themselves "conscientious objectors" and converted to Islam, they might start getting some sympathy.


Dan Riehl takes a close look at reporting on the alleged murder and says "Press Accounts Of Second Alleged Atrocity Don't Add Up."

Sounds familiar.



Blackfive reports on the Hadji Girl hysteria:

I received the original video "Hodji Girl" (that was the title) back in early March from a Corpsman who thought that Corporal Joshua [Belile] was hilarious. I sent it around to my friends with the caveat not to post it so [Belile] wouldn't suffer the wrath of the humorless asshat sycophants in charge of the military or suffer the unbelievable media bias that is now occurring.

I'm certain that Joshua and the Sweater Kittenz will be fine through this...there are probably agents all over them now to get a deal.

But if this goes down badly for Joshua, I say we start a defense fund for the guy.

Send a letter of support through the Sweater Kittenz band site here.

Here's an interview with Cpl. Joshua Belile.


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Update: Marines In Shackles
1 posted on 06/15/2006 6:10:55 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg; kstewskis; Victoria Delsoul; Miss Marple; kassie; kayak; Jemian; Molly Pitcher; Peach; ...

Sending an E mail right away!


2 posted on 06/15/2006 6:19:42 AM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: Northern Yankee

Ditto; thanks for the ping.

We treat the jihadists at Gitmo better than this.

3 posted on 06/15/2006 6:24:15 AM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship
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To: Peach
We treat the jihadists at Gitmo better than this.


Letter sent, and am writing my congressman.

4 posted on 06/15/2006 6:29:33 AM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: gunnyg


Oh, yeah, they only protect Communists, Perverts and Illegal Alens!

5 posted on 06/15/2006 6:29:55 AM PDT by radar101 (The two hallmarks of Liberals: Fantasy and Hypocrisy)
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To: gunnyg

I heard about this on a radio show last night, and it blew me away. I am surprised at our military treating this young men like this when they haven't been charged yet. I don't understand what is going on here.

6 posted on 06/15/2006 6:38:37 AM PDT by TexasTaysor
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To: Peach

Just fired off a note to my senator. (Kohl D-WI)

7 posted on 06/15/2006 6:40:22 AM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: gunnyg

Some folks need to study-up on just what "loyalty" ,eans and how to apply it!

8 posted on 06/15/2006 7:09:50 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg

Even Chesty Puller came out of retirement in 1956 and reminded them--must have gone right over their heads!

9 posted on 06/15/2006 7:12:02 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg

It's despicable that psycho killer Hasan Akbar -- a mass-murdering koranimal found guilty of killing 2 officers in Kuwait -- gets better treatment on Death Row than the innocent 8 guys held at Camp Pendleton.

10 posted on 06/15/2006 7:13:12 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: gunnyg

And...Puller's distant cousin, Georgie, even before that...

11 posted on 06/15/2006 7:13:53 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg

My nephew is at Pendelton and he is very upset about this. He was with those 8 in Iraq a couple weeks before this so called attack. He said there is no way they are quilty of such crimes.

What can we do for them?

12 posted on 06/15/2006 7:27:40 AM PDT by JFC (Land of the FREE because of our BRAVE)
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To: gunnyg

I'd like one of our FR Military Attorneys to weigh in on this.

If these men are in "pre-trial confinement", then that means they have been placed there under the UCMJ, have had a hearing that ordered that confinement, and the Authority that placed them in confinement found probable cause to do so.

These men are on active duty and subject to the UCMJ, and there are rules that cover pre-trial confinement. If they arebeing confined "pre-trial", then that implies that they are going to be tried for something, therefore there must be charges against these men that are serious enough to require that level of security, previous military service aside.

Let's not go DU-ish on this. Let's find out what the facts really are first.

13 posted on 06/15/2006 7:32:44 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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The following, I think, lists a couple of Defense Funds....

14 posted on 06/15/2006 7:36:12 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Northern Yankee

Me too, but my Senator is Lindsey Graham. Ack.

15 posted on 06/15/2006 10:05:05 AM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship
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To: Peach
Yeah... I have Russ Feingold and Herb Kohl.

Yip... yip... yahoo...

I fired off the letter to Kohl.

16 posted on 06/15/2006 6:52:58 PM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: Northern Yankee

Good choice, Northern :-)

I'm about ready to go read a book and ignore the news for the rest of the evening. See you tomorrow.

17 posted on 06/15/2006 6:53:41 PM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship
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To: Bean Counter
These men are on active duty and subject to the UCMJ, and there are rules that cover pre-trial confinement. If they arebeing confined "pre-trial", then that implies that they are going to be tried for something, therefore there must be charges against these men that are serious enough to require that level of security, previous military service aside.

Also, any such confinement, and the terms thereof, is subject to intense review, particularly when it involves shackles. Whoever ordered this is going to be asked a lot of extremely tough questions, and if he's not ready to answer them, he's toast.

18 posted on 06/15/2006 6:54:41 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Bean Counter

Hey! How dare you inject reason into a knee-jerk debate?

19 posted on 06/15/2006 6:57:32 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: Peach

Good Morning!

20 posted on 06/16/2006 3:25:31 AM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: gunnyg


21 posted on 06/16/2006 3:31:41 AM PDT by kalee (Send your senators the dictionary definition of "amnesty")
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To: gunnyg

Tell the Commandant [Michael Ledeen]
I've just sent this letter to General Michael Hagee, the Commandant of the Marine Corps ( You might want to pile on:

Dear General Hagee,

I'm dismayed by your recent behavior.

It seems to me an outrage, and quite possibly illegal to boot, to put Marines in the brig and to shackle them, when no charges have been filed against them.

It seems to me an outrage for you to brief the likes of Congressman Murtha before the investigation was complete, and even then you should have told him to wait, to let justice take its course.

It seems to me an outrage for you to reinforce the utterly false notion that your Marines are out of control by zooming off to Iraq to deliver sermons on proper ethics. Every Marine officer with whom I am familiar has received extensive ethical training, and they daily remind their Marines of their ethical obligations. You know this well. Why, then, do you act as if they have a moral deficit?

And it seems to me an outrage for you to fail to say, in response to all questions about these allegations, that Americans are innocent until proven guilty, and nobody has even been charged in this matter.

I think it was your duty to say these things to the American people, instead of giving the impression you believed the worst.

It also seems to me an outrage for the Corps to act as if the "Hadji Girl" song praised the killing Muslims, when the lyrics told a story--a fictional story, mind you--about terrorists trying to lure a Marine to a place they could kill HIM. Have you actually read the lyrics?

This sort of preemptive surrender inevitably has a bad effect on the morale of the Corps, and does nothing to deter future political attacks. You have gained nothing except the contempt of the Corps' enemies, who know that if they can destroy the unique image of U.S. Marines, they will have taken a giant step toward defeating us in the current war.

I do hope that in your remaining weeks as Commandant you will find many opportunities to stand by your Marines. They sure deserve a lot better than they've received.
Posted at 9:48 AM

22 posted on 06/16/2006 9:58:22 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: NormsRevenge

We can't post any Marine Corps Times material here, even in replies.

It's link only.

24 posted on 06/17/2006 6:50:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: gunnyg

Send a letter asking that they be released.

Has anyone who wrote to the White House gotten a reply?

25 posted on 06/17/2006 7:37:46 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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even in replies, damn! Me bad then. link only, got it. Thanks!

No problem. It was an update on change of status of methods of restraint for Marines being held in Camp Pendleton brig pending results of ongoing investigations into reported Hamdaniya incident in April..

Michelle's site and have updated info there too.

26 posted on 06/17/2006 8:46:37 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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