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We're From the U.N. and We Want Your Guns
TownHall ^ | 06.16.2006 | Mary Katharine Ham

Posted on 06/16/2006 4:22:44 AM PDT by jodiluvshoes

The U.N. will gather in New York City this July for the 2006 Small Arms Review Conference. Doesn’t the name alone make you nervous? The U.N. is “reviewing” guns. If you don’t own one, doesn’t it make you want to go out and buy one just so you can be ready for whatever Kofi’s got planned?

Wayne LaPierre is plenty nervous, which is why he’s written, “The Global War on Your Guns: Inside the U.N.’s Plan to Destroy the Bill of Rights.” Sound alarmist?

His critics think so, claiming that the aim of the conference and its supporters is only to deal with the “illicit” sale of small arms, so it would have no effect on any legally traded arms. But check out the U.N.’s own explanation and see what you think (emphasis mine):

By unanimously adopting the UN Programme of Action to address the illicit trade in small arms and light weapons (UNPoA), in 2001, the UN Member States committed to collecting and destroying illegal weapons, adopting and/or improving national legislations that would help criminalize the illicit trade in small arms, regulating the activities of brokers, setting strict import and export controls, taking action against violators of such laws, and better coordinating international efforts to that end.

Sounds like there’s some wiggle room in there to me. I got to talk to LaPierre, executive vice president and chief executive officer of the National Rifle Association, about his new book and the new fight facing gun owners.

LaPierre has been charting the U.N. gun-ban movement since the mid-1990s, when all of the nuclear freeze non-governmental organizations (NGOs) morphed into gun-ban groups and “hijacked the disarmament machinery of the United Nations,” he said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gungrabbers; lapierre; nra; unitednations
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
"C'mon to Texas, here in my town we search everyone coming in to see if they have a weapon, those that don't are issued one."

Thank you. I will talking to the MRS. tonight. God Bless America (especially TEXAS).
21 posted on 06/16/2006 6:31:44 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: wmileo
I couldn't agree more. I've mentioned this statistic recently...in the 20th century, 34 million people were killed in wars but 196 million people were killed by their own governments. The solution to this problem is not to disarm everyone, but exactly the opposite....we should be holding firearms safety and marksmanship classes in the public schools, and issuing assault rifles to everyone that passes on graduation day.

But for us in New Jersey, we get little support. I can't really blame the national... they are fighting where it will do some good and that is not New Jersey. But that still leaves us out here swinging.

I think it's on us to educate people where we can. People are always surprised when they discover that I shoot Skeet fairly regularly (in Jackson ...on Sunday mornings)... they say I don't look the type. I usually use the opportunity to try to explain to them that it doesn't mean I'm going to blow their head off. I also try to make a point to bring as many of my non - gun owning friends out to the club for a round or two just so they can see how much fun it is. so far I've opened several minds, and created two out and out converts.

Also, a good friends wife works as on air talent at Fox News and I've been trying to talk some of her co workers into coming out to the club and trying it out. I figure if there are a few members of the media who realize that shooting sports are less scary and more fun than they thought, it's a win for us.

Small steps is the only thing I can think of. But I've also buried two 640 round spam cans of 7.62x39 just in case.
22 posted on 06/16/2006 6:33:44 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: tcostell
You are more optimistic than me. Keep up the good work.
23 posted on 06/16/2006 7:23:30 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: jodiluvshoes
YOU CAN'T HAVE OUR GUNS!!!

We can send you a few bullets though.

24 posted on 06/16/2006 7:39:26 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Guest tagline,doing jobs lazy american taglines won't!)
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To: xrp

Agreed. I've already recruited one neighbor.


25 posted on 06/16/2006 7:42:37 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: Bommer

Oops! I didin't see your post in time.


26 posted on 06/16/2006 7:42:58 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Guest tagline,doing jobs lazy american taglines won't!)
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To: mr_hammer

"Take the U.N. by eminent domian and convert it into condo's."

The property was donated to the U.N. by Rockefeller. Do you really think that NYC would dare take that property?


27 posted on 06/16/2006 7:50:41 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I'm a big critic of the UN to, but I think we should think about that a minute.

The fact of the matter is that the people involved in the UN and their supporters are not the brightest bunch...just your average set of banana republic thugs, Napolean wannabe's and their dim witted kool aid drinking fans. But if they weren't at the UN making their ridiculous "demands" in the public light, then they would be off in some east African hotel room making them quietly and waiting to spring them on us when the FBI or CIA found out about them.

So from that perspective, it's really not so bad to have them over there on the east side. So long as no-one takes them or what they say too seriously. Now THERE is a problem. Unfortunately, we have quite a few dim witted kool-aid drinkers here as well, and some of them might be giving up their Senate seats to run for president. If that happens then we need to keep the political pressure on to preserve or expand the rights of gun owners, otherwise we really will be living in the police state of the UN's dreams.
28 posted on 06/16/2006 8:09:31 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: jodiluvshoes
We're From the U.N. and We Want Your Guns

Why don't you come to Texas and we'll "discuss" the matter? In fact, PLEASE come - we've got some messages to deliver to you, and we wish to do so promptly...preferably via airmail. As for your expectations in this regard, please ask the British delegation how their nation's "discussion" with us Americans went about 230 years ago.

29 posted on 06/16/2006 8:59:57 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: palmer; Admin Moderator

And what has he done? Is his name on any lawsuits against the San Francisco council? Yes, he's a Sarah Brady troll. He can't use any point of view that isn't over thirty years old.

He can't answer the question if the NRA isn't there, who would be? Another gun group that hasn't done a single solitary thing on their own since their existance?


30 posted on 06/16/2006 2:56:15 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5; dhuffman@awod.com

Looked over the links he provided, the kaba is benign, the nrawol site is a little wierd, dated maybe, but factual. For example, recognizing that the NRA is a "wing of the R party". That's not a bad thing like they make it out to be, and they are have the direction wrong, the R party is responsive to NRA members values. I am an NRA member and a GOA member, each has its strengths. I will stay open-minded about this group as well.


31 posted on 06/16/2006 8:28:08 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Never mind that the NRA specifically endorsed the 1968 GCA.

Other than that, they're a great bunch of fundraisers.

L

32 posted on 06/16/2006 8:33:30 PM PDT by Lurker ("They still see you as the infidel, the other, and they'll still kill you. " Mark Steyn)
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To: Sender

NRA supporter myself for many years now and will continue to support it.

If Kofi wants my guns, the runt can come and get them.


33 posted on 06/16/2006 8:41:04 PM PDT by jerry639
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To: Lurker

Over thirty years ago. the NRA wasn't a lobbying group. They were a competitive shooting and hunting organization. Their main supporters were the firearms manufacturers. Their only clout in Washington was sending the occasional letter to their members. When the '68 gun law was proposed, a lot of the members, especially the manufacterers saw it as protectionism. The NRA's numbers weren't all that great either. I doubt they had a million members at that time. I think it was in the low hundred thousands.
Since that time, there have been at least two overthrows of power. THE NRA ISN'T THE SAME ORGANIZATION THAT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH "ENDORSING" THE GUN LAW AND I DOUBT THEY DID.

You crybabies should finally tell me what gun organization has ever done anything without the NRA's help. Either do that or shut up. And you palmer, probably still can't tell me what the GOA has ever done by itself.

Four million NRA members doing what seventy four million gunowners are too lazy to do.


34 posted on 06/17/2006 5:04:30 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: wmileo

The irony about the "gun-control" crowd on the coasts is that gun control isn't really the problem. The problem is created by welfare moms raising 12 criminal children by 12 different fathers, the liberal judges who refuse to come down hard on criminals and the liberal media that treats criminals as the "true" victims. Our problem isn't guns, but the liberal culture that has not only bred criminals, but keeps putting them back out on the street.


35 posted on 06/17/2006 6:19:17 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: Shooter 2.5
Over thirty years ago. the NRA wasn't a lobbying group

It really bothers me when people make excuses for treasonous behavior.

It's like if Clinton suddenly saw the light and decided to become pro 2nd Amendment. I wouldn't trust him no matter what he did.

It's the same with the NRA.

BTW, Charlton Heston personally favored the 68 GCA and urged the President to sign it.

So much for the 'different organization' canard.

L

36 posted on 06/17/2006 3:31:07 PM PDT by Lurker (Decadence pervades the corridors of power and depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: wmileo
In SanFrancisco, 60% voted to make it illegal to own a handgun.
Were it not for the NRA law suit, this situation would have stood.

Not true.

There are plenty of gun groups that would have filed suit, [and won] if the NRA had not.

37 posted on 06/17/2006 3:41:54 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Lurker
"Over thirty years ago. the NRA wasn't a lobbying group"

-- It really bothers me when people make excuses for treasonous behavior.
It's like if Clinton suddenly saw the light and decided to become pro 2nd Amendment. I wouldn't trust him no matter what he did.
It's the same with the NRA.

Thirty seven years ago I had a gunsmiths license and was a staunch NRA member. This all changed when the NRA turncoats came in power & supported the '68 act', -- which they still do.

BTW, Charlton Heston personally favored the 68 GCA and urged the President to sign it. So much for the 'different organization' canard.

Yep, the NRA still plays footsie with the government power structure.

If the 'new' Court would decide that our 2nd amendment doesn't apply to States, [allowing CA to outright prohibit handguns for instance] guess who would be finding excuses to agree.. -- Bet on the NRA.

38 posted on 06/17/2006 4:05:41 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Badray

Ping!


39 posted on 06/17/2006 5:40:58 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: Lurker

Wrong.

It would be the same is if you hated clintoon,[which shouldn't be a stretch of the imagination] and then hated the United States of America because of his term decades later.

The board of directors from the NRA who supported or ignored the passage of the '68 gun law are all dead and buried.

But then it's an easy excuse to sit on the sidelines and do nothing while the NRA gets results.


40 posted on 06/17/2006 7:30:22 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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