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Immigrants' Prenatal Care Costs State 5 Times The Initial Estimate
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | 6-17-06 | Nell Smith

Posted on 06/17/2006 5:15:57 PM PDT by txdoda

At $6.5 million per year, a Medicaid program that pays for prenatal care for immigrant women is costing the state more than five times what officials predicted two years ago.

The unexpected higher cost stems from Medicaid officials underestimating the number of women who would qualify and failing to factor in the cost of prescription drugs and hospital stays after deliveries. "I can't imagine the department missing the target so far on cost," said state Rep. Jay Bradford, D-White Hall. "And I'll have to follow up with them on that as chairman" of the Public Health, Welfare and Labor Committee.

In April 2004, state Medicaid Director Roy Jeffus estimated the cost per birth for the new coverage would be $1,300. However, prenatal care, delivery and postpartum care actually is costing around $4,100. When introducing the coverage, Jeffus predicted the program would cost a maximum of $1.3 million. In reality, the program cost $4.3 million in 2005. In the first 10 months of fiscal 2006, which ends June 30, the state has spent more than $6.5 million on the program. The federal government pays about $4 for every $1 Arkansas spends on the medical care. "Most people require a hospital stay.

Some people require some type of prescription drugs," said Julie Munsell, spokesman for the state Department of Health and Human Services, which runs the state's Medicaid program. "These are just routine things that weren't factored into that price." "I can't explain why that did not get factored in there," she said. "Honestly, I cannot. It should have been." There was also greater than expected demand for the coverage.

Back in 2004, Jeffus also estimated the new coverage would apply to 800 to 1,000 women. About 5,832 women enrolled in the program between July 1, 2004 and June 30, 2005, with 1,097 giving birth. The numbers increased the next year, with 8,748 enrolled through April 30 this year and 1,601 deliveries.

Munsell said the original estimate of 800 to 1,000 women was a "best guess." In the first month of the program, July 2004, 81 women enrolled. Medicaid officials used that information to determine an estimated total for the year. The agency failed to take into account that women, once enrolled, stay enrolled for the duration of their pregnancy.

Information about the potential demand for such services has long been available. According to statistics from the state Health Division, the number of babies born in Arkansas to foreign-born women has exceeded 2,500 as far back as 2000. In 2003, the year before the program began, more than 3,700 babies were born to foreign-born mothers.

Arkansas began the Medicaid prenatal care program in 2004 when the federal government allowed states to offer prenatal coverage for some immigrants whose immigration status disqualified them from the government health insurance for the poor.

Before that, illegal aliens and legal immigrants who had been in the United States less than five years could not receive Medicaid. The new program covers immigrant women whose income is 200 percent or less of the federal poverty guidelines.

Arkansas and eight other states chose to offer the new coverage. Texas, with its heavy immigrant population, is the latest state to begin offering the coverage. Also offering the coverage are California, Illinois, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Rhode Island and Washington.

The program technically covers medical care for the pregnant woman's fetus, which if born in the United States would be an American citizen. Advocates for the Medicaid coverage argued that paying for prenatal care can head off potentially very expensive health problems for the infant the state would wind up paying for later.

While immigrant advocates praised the new policy, abortion-rights leaders voiced concern about treating a fetus as a person. Other critics, such as lieutenant governor candidate Jim Holt objected to providing state-funded services to illegal aliens.

Health and Human Services Department spokesman Munsell said the unanticipated program cost will come from savings on spending that Medicaid would otherwise incur if prenatal care were not provided. She could not show reductions in other areas of Medicaid because of the prenatal care program.

"It's difficult to know down to a penny how much you've saved," she said.

So far, it is unclear whether the Medicaid coverage is actually decreasing the rate of immigrant women in Arkansas delivering babies without any prenatal care. Prenatal care statistics by the mother's ethnicity are only available through 2003, the year before the program went into effect. The data is not available by immigration status. Statewide, for all births, the percentage of mothers receiving prenatal care beginning in the first trimester, has declined slightly in the past few years, from 80.2 percent in 2003 to 78.6 percent over the first four months in 2006. That means a smaller percentage of all pregnant women in Arkansas are receiving early prenatal care. In each of the past three years, about 30,000 of the 38,000 mothers who gave birth received early prenatal care.

Some health-care providers say the program is significantly reducing the number of pregnant women getting no prenatal care. Before the program began, uninsured immigrant women could either obtain prenatal care from a Health Department clinic, a charity clinic or a private doctor who agreed to provide services for free or reduced cost. Hospitals cannot turn away women who come to an emergency room while in labor. "Our walk-ins - people who come to labor and delivery without any prenatal care - has diminished dramatically. We're talking from hundreds a year to a few per week," said Dr. Scott Bailey, an obstetrician in Johnson, outside Fayetteville.

In Northwest Arkansas, where Health Department resources couldn't meet demand for services, local providers struggled for years to find a way to treat the growing number of uninsured immigrants. A community health center in Springdale signs women up for the Medicaid program, does basic testing and refers them to a private physician working on a rotating basis. In 2005, the Washington County health unit saw 315 Hispanic women for initial prenatal care visits, and between March of 2005 and March of 2006, the Springdale health center referred 867 women to doctors for prenatal care. Information about the immigration status of these women was unavailable.

"The physicians, even though they were going to see [immigrant women] for free, now they've got a little bit better taste in their mouth about the thing because they are actually getting reimbursed," Bailey said. "Over a third of our deliveries are for indigent care," he said, "and [we're ] glad to do it."

This story was published Saturday, June 17, 2006


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: Illinois; US: Massachusetts; US: Michigan; US: Minnesota; US: Rhode Island; US: Texas; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; freehealthcare; healthcare; howconvenient; illegalaliens; immigrants; libertarians; nafta; scamnesty; slavery; spp; sterilizethemnow
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sheesh......taxpayers now funding *free* prenatal care for anchor babies.
1 posted on 06/17/2006 5:16:02 PM PDT by txdoda
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To: txdoda
You can hardly get out of an ER for 1300 dollars. I think 4000 is low. My last child was 900 dollars just for Dr. fees in 1981! They are also just calculating well baby/uncomplicated. What about C sections and premies?
2 posted on 06/17/2006 5:21:24 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: txdoda

Why are the states paying for illegals to have babies? Because the federal gov't wouldn't fund it? Why is it even an issue? Send them home to have their children. They and the children they are carrying are not citizens and do not have the rights to any gov't services except deportation.


3 posted on 06/17/2006 5:21:58 PM PDT by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: Grannyx4
This is unbelievable. We pay around $150 per visit, and part of that goes to the cost of delivery.
Let's see; One visit every four weeks until the 30th week, that's $1,125, and then a visit every two weeks until the fourtieth week, that's $1500. Our insurance picks up the remaining two-thirds of the bill, and God forbid I have any complications or a C-section.

Can I revoke my citizenship to get free medical care? It's not like theyll throw me out of the country...

4 posted on 06/17/2006 5:23:21 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
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To: txdoda

People should not be allowed to immigrate unless they can show that they have medical insurance.


5 posted on 06/17/2006 5:26:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: CindyDawg
You can hardly get out of an ER for 1300 dollars.>>>>>>>>

I think this article is only covering the *free* 'prenatal care'.

but here's another thread that cover more of this *free* healthcare in TX.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1651237/posts
6 posted on 06/17/2006 5:27:39 PM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: txdoda

now funding...

Here in San Diego we tax payers have been funding anchor kids for years and years. Mandated by the Federal Gov.
That is mega millions of dollars a year.


7 posted on 06/17/2006 5:30:14 PM PDT by SoCalPol (.We Need a Border Fence Now.)
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To: txdoda

Has a government program ever come under its estimate?


8 posted on 06/17/2006 5:30:17 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: txdoda

They're getting off pretty good. The price for an illegal alien's baby in Georgia in my County costs $6000. Then we give the baby Medicaid the first year of its life and spend another $6000 -- and that's IF there are no complications.

With complications -- the price tag goes much higher. And many of the illegals don't get pre-natal care (since the payment from Medicaid only comes after the baby's born for the delivery and hospital costs), so there are a higher percentage of illegals' babies in NICU.

Time to pull the plug on "free" medical care to illegals and make them pay at least some of the cost. Or they can go home and have their babies there.


9 posted on 06/17/2006 5:32:06 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle
Why are the states paying for illegals to have babies? Because the federal gov't wouldn't fund it?

(from the article)"The federal government pays about $4 for every $1 Arkansas spends on the medical care."

So ALL federal taxpayers get to chip in on yet anther freebie.

10 posted on 06/17/2006 5:32:42 PM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: art_rocks
Has a government program ever come under its estimate?

Sure makes you wonder about those *12* million illegals we keep hearing about.

11 posted on 06/17/2006 5:35:49 PM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: txdoda

We pay illegal immigrants to breed same as the Europeans pay Muslims to breed. And if some are legal, why are we importing uneducated, non English speaking, impoverished people?


12 posted on 06/17/2006 5:39:14 PM PDT by dennisw (Fate of Nations)
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To: txdoda

Thanks for nothing George Bush!


13 posted on 06/17/2006 5:40:13 PM PDT by dennisw (Fate of Nations)
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle
Why are the states paying for illegals to have babies?

For this, I will add: why are we paying for LEGALS to have babies? It used to be to come to the US you had to be sponsored and you had to prove you wouldn't be a burden to the taxpayers.

Whatever happened to that lawsuit that was suing immigrants' sponsors for their welfare?

14 posted on 06/17/2006 5:42:48 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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To: txdoda
About 5,832 women enrolled in the program between July 1, 2004 and June 30, 2005, with 1,097 giving birth. The numbers increased the next year, with 8,748 enrolled through April 30 this year and 1,601 deliveries.

Anyone else have trouble with those numbers? Do they even administer pregnancy tests before giving benefits or is something more sinister going on? The fetal mortality rate is horrifying. What was the purpose of that program again?

Those responsible for the estimates need to be fired for gross incompetence.

15 posted on 06/17/2006 5:45:51 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
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16 posted on 06/17/2006 6:11:10 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: NonValueAdded
Anyone else have trouble with those numbers?

Again this addresses free 'prenatal care', but it sure looks like many move on to another state to actually give birth.

Could be they've figured out which states will then offer up the biggest welfare check for this new citizen.

17 posted on 06/17/2006 6:17:18 PM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: NonValueAdded

"Those responsible for the estimates need to be fired for gross incompetence"
Those responsible will be put on paid leave (ie., vacation) until the situation blows over, at which time they can dig their hands further into the taxpayer pocket.
While still being incompetent thiefs.
Geesh.


18 posted on 06/17/2006 6:17:52 PM PDT by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: txdoda

My wife is a prenatal genetic counselor around the L.A. area. At the clinics she's assigned to, she estimates about 1/3 are illegal immigrants, and among this 1/3, at least 95% are completely paid for by Medi-Cal.

To make things worse, her company is requiring her to take 3-hour night classes in Spanish twice weekly at Berlitz so she'll eventually be able to provide counseling for these people without having to arrange for a translator every time she gets one of them as a patient. This is on top of her normal 50-60 hour work week.

This has really infuriated her, since she herself is an immigrant who worked hard to become fluent in English when she came here 10 years ago. She now makes a point of asking such patients why they don't learn English. She says the response is usually along the lines of "whatever, lady" or "umm, I don't know."


19 posted on 06/17/2006 6:19:25 PM PDT by gaussia
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To: txdoda

Funding the creation of new Democrats with your tax dollars.


20 posted on 06/17/2006 6:22:34 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters
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