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Earliest hominid: Not a hominid at all?
University of Michigan News Service ^
| June 19, 2006
| Laura Bailey
Posted on 06/19/2006 7:08:06 PM PDT by Marius3188
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To: blam; FairOpinion; annie laurie; Anne of DC
Thanks annie for the ping.
Just taking a bit of risk, adding this topic to the catalog. But I won't ping it. I won't. No. Judging from the keyword vandalism, this will wind up being worse than usual.
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks. Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
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posted on
06/19/2006 8:56:47 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(updated my FR profile on Monday, June 19, 2006.)
Comment #22 Removed by Moderator
To: TheCrusader
"...the creature walked on all fours like an ape."
So...maybe it was an ape???
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:00:55 PM PDT
by
DennisR
(Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
To: keithtoo
"Say what?!
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:01:45 PM PDT
by
Revolting cat!
("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
Comment #25 Removed by Moderator
To: muawiyah
"I think that guy looks like a chimp" Have you ever seen a profile view of Duane Gish?
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:14:53 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: TheCrusader
"These researchers will be roundly criticized by the practitioners of the religion of Darwinism for daring to speak the truth." Yep! violation of the second Dweeper commandment:
Thou shalt not bear faithful witness of any man nor alleged ancestor thereof.
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:19:17 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: DaveLoneRanger
Get some key text from the pdf, and do a google search for that text, and after the gopher finds it, it will convert it to html and you can then click on that option ;o)
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:23:17 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: Marius3188; ahayes; fish hawk; Coyoteman; TheCrusader; DaveLoneRanger; blam
no fossil records of chimpanzees exist so it's impossible to compare to earlier descendents, Wolpff said.
That is kinda big gap in the fossil record, with nothing for a "missing link" to link to, isn't it? [snicker]
(Yes, I read the forest excuse. Another confirmation of Genesis if true: Man was kicked out of the garden.)
Or maybe chimpanzees "evolved" from people. [snicker]
The monkey speaks his mind.
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:26:10 PM PDT
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
To: Marius3188
"Whether or not it's a human ancestor is probably unimportant as far as the skull is concerned," Wolpoff said. "But it's very important in trying to understand where humans come from. It's the first relative we've had of the earliest hominid, or something related to it, but it's not a hominid at all."What kind of doublespeak is this? At the end of this quote he says, "but it's not a hominid at all." The first sentence of the article starts out, "The earliest known hominid fossil, Sounds to me like they really don't want to discount evolution of man from apes even though everything points to no connection.
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:26:35 PM PDT
by
taxesareforever
(Never forget Matt MaupinThe earliest known hominid fossil,)
To: DaveLoneRanger
"The laptop's a few years old now, and I've recovered it from the brink a time or two already." Replace the RAM modules. One of them is going out, and acrobat is a heavy user of RAM.
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:28:46 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: taxesareforever
They assume the connection. The fossil record is so fragmentary and probably will remain so. They have no fossils of early chimps? That I didn't know. If human evolution took place, it might be in a way unimagined so far. IAC, they just don't know.
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:39:14 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: WKB
CarlinaGuitarman is going to sing us his favorite Kinks' tune "Im an Ape man".
I think Im sophisticated
cos Im living my life like a good homosapien
But all around me everybodys multiplying
Till theyre walking round like flies man
So Im no better than the animals sitting in their cages
In the zoo man
cos compared to the flowers and the birds and the trees
I am an ape man
I think Im so educated and Im so civilized
cos Im a strict vegetarian
But with the over-population and inflation and starvation
And the crazy politicians
I dont feel safe in this world no more
I dont want to die in a nuclear war
I want to sail away to a distant shore and make like an ape man
Im an ape man, Im an ape ape man
Im an ape man Im a king kong man Im ape ape man
Im an ape man
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:40:37 PM PDT
by
Boiler Plate
(Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
To: DaveLoneRanger
My comments were directed to the thoroughness of this paper and the scientific standing of its primary author. He has taken a fossil that was somewhat ambiguous and figured out where it more likely lies in the scheme of things. That is a valuable thing to do. It seems rather that the researchers have overturned its usefulness as an evolutionary link. I agree it's a valuable thing to do, though I doubt many frevolutionists do.
Data are of no use if they are not accurate. A lot of the efforts of evolutionists, as witnessed by this paper, are directed toward fine-tuning the data. Over time we reach a better understanding of the past this way.
Anything that is incorrect is a problem--Piltdown fooled a few people for a while, but most folks discounted it because it did not fit with the reliable data. It was mostly ignored after the good South African finds of the 1920s.
As for "frevolutionists" being committed to this particular specimen as an evolutionary link, we are willing to take the data as they are. We don't need to fudge or distort the data; we can take it as it is.
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posted on
06/19/2006 9:45:20 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
To: Marius3188
"Researchers also examined the canine teeth and found that they were not clearly human or ape-like, but rather like most other canine fossils from the Miocene era."
Proof Man evolved from dogs
"..."
Just couldn't resist!
Evolution is nothing more than Tabloid Journalism.
I fully expect to see headlines..."Darwin married Lucy in secred wedding in Nambia - children were Erectus".
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posted on
06/19/2006 10:03:39 PM PDT
by
DannyTN
To: DaveLoneRanger
I think it would take a lot to get "worse than usual"!
Heh... that's for sure. At least no one has included "CallingArtBell"... or have they?
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posted on
06/19/2006 10:10:06 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(updated my FR profile on Monday, June 19, 2006.)
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posted on
06/19/2006 10:10:52 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(updated my FR profile on Monday, June 19, 2006.)
To: DaveLoneRanger
I'm confused. Exactly why would we want to stay away from this article? Staying away from this thread I can understand when I've got nonsense like a post below showing up uninvited on my pings page. *sigh!*
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posted on
06/20/2006 3:23:27 AM PDT
by
ahayes
("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
To: TheCrusader
You guys sure take any excuse to run around screaming, "FIRE!!", don't you?
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posted on
06/20/2006 3:25:54 AM PDT
by
ahayes
("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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